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Minutes
April 101h,2019
PRESENT: Shirley Brabender Mattox, Steve Cummings, Paul Arnold, Nikki Stoll Olthoff
EXCUSED: Harold Buchholz,Jeremy Galica
ABSENT: Jake Krause, Elizabeth Hintz
STAFF AND OTHERS: Steven Wiley
1. Call to Order
Chair Brabender Mattox called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. and a quorum was declared present.
2. Approval of March 131h,2019 Meeting Minutes
Ms. Brabender Mattox asked the Commission if there were any revisions for the March meeting
minutes. No commissioners had any revisions so the Commission voted 4-0 to approve the minutes as
written(Arnold/Stoll Olthoff).
3. 217 High Avenue-Update
Mr. Wiley provided a brief update and explained that the property manager was still working with
contractors. She did not have anything additional to present at the Landmarks meeting but was still
working on the initial questionnaire to determine potential eligibility for the National and State Registers.
Mr. Wiley explained that the Inspections Services Division wanted to see compliance with local
ordinances primarily by addressing the peeling paint. He explained that the challenge was that the
timeframe for listing on the National/State Registers could take over a year and that compliance orders
existed on the property. Mr. Wiley explained that for an income-generating property such as this one,
his understanding was that the property needed to be formally listed on the National/State Registers to
qualify. He explained that the property manager had most of the required materials for submission to
the state compiled, but was working on obtaining exterior photographs of the property. He explained
that he would continue working with the property manager throughout the process.
4. Building Permit Review
The Commission discussed the list of building permits for properties located in historic districts. Mr.
Arnold asked about the property at 831 Washington Avenue where work was done without approval
and the stair did not meet headroom requirements. Mr. Arnold asked if the property owner would have
to undo the illegal work or alter the stair. Mr. Wiley stated that he could follow up with Inspections but
that he believed the owner would have to bring the work into compliance in order to use the 3rd floor as
a bedroom and bathroom. Ms.Brabender Mattox asked if the property at 514 Union Avenue was historic
or not. Mr. Wiley stated that the house was considered a contributing structure in the Irving-Church
District when the district was established. Ms. Stoll Olthoff asked for some of the background on 537 N.
Main Street for the continuation of a permit to close window openings and install a new sign on the front
facade. Mr. Arnold explained that Landmarks had reviewed the item and it went to the Plan
Commission. The owner was granted a Design Standards Variance permitting him to do the proposed
work and was reluctant to attach a new sign to the terra cotta portions of the facade. For 436 North Main
Street, the Commission was supportive of the proposed signage.
5. Historic Preservation Plan-Jeremy Galica and Steven Wiley-Update/Timeline/Process
Mr. Wiley provided an update on the preservation plan. He explained that he continued to work on the
plan when able and that he wanted to hold additional workshops to work on the plan. Commissioners
explained that they would not be able to attend a workshop at the proposed April 111h time but that they
could attend a rescheduled workshop in the coming weeks. Mr. Wiley stated that his main goal was to
keep progressing on the preservation plan. He reminded the Commission that they would have to work
out the public participation part of the planning process.
6. 2019 Acanthus Awards -Discussion/Action
Mr. Arnold provided an update on 115 Washington Avenue (Goetteman Printing) and stated that staff
should update the Assessors page because the owner listed was incorrect. He stated that the Johnson
sisters owned the building,not Paul Redemann as was listed on the Assessor page. He suggested that
the Commission refrain from presenting an award for the property for this year. For the Howard Ms.
Stoll Olthoff asked to obtain some previous examples of awards. Ms. Brabender Mattox stated that she
could help in writing the nomination for the Riverside Chapel. She asked if the Commission wished to
consider Richard Nebel for an Acanthus Award for 2019. She showed the Commission some of Mr.
Nebel's blogs on William Waters buildings in Oshkosh and other locations. Mr. Nebel had posted over
200 blogs since 2010. Mr. Arnold supported the idea but suggested waiting until the following year
due to the constraints of time and Commissioner availability.
7. Social Media-Discussion/Action
Mr. Wiley stated that he had met with City Manager Rohloff and Emily Springstroh from Oshkosh
Media since the March meeting. He explained that the City Manager allowed him to use his discretion
when posting Commissioner-originated material. The Commission would not have to wait until the
next regular Landmarks meeting to vote on items and post them. Commissioners could send material
for posting and staff could post going forward. Mr. Wiley stated that for the Sustainability Advisory
Board, a board member worked on postings for each month and sent them to him to post. He
suggested that Landmarks could also do this.
8. 530 North Main Street-Cellular Antenna-Discussion/Action
Mr. Wiley asked the Commission to provide input and direction on how to respond to the proposal to
replace existing cell antennae and add new antennae on the Raulf Hotel at 530 N. Main Street. He
showed the Commission the materials that the consultant submitted and explained the proposal by
U.S. Cellular and AT&T for new antennae structures. Ms. Brabender Mattox stated that she completely
objected to the placement of any new structures on the building. She explained that the Commission
did a large amount of work to try and reduce the number of antennae structures on the roof and
facades of the building. Mr. Cummings agreed and was supportive of keeping the building clean. Ms.
Brabender Mattox explained that the Raulf building was Oshkosh's skyscraper downtown. She
mentioned that the draft letter stated that the proposed installation of cell antennae was outside of an
historic district. She asked Mr. Wiley to correct this since the building is a contributing structure in the
North Main Historic District. Mr. Wiley explained that he had also found the earlier Common Council
resolutions from 2011 and 2013 and that the Commission had weighed in during earlier antennae
modernizations. Mr. Wiley stated that Landmarks had used a consistent four-category template letter
for responding to antenna proposals. In the earlier Landmarks responses, the Commission completely
objected to the installation of any new cell structures and proposed that obsolete structures not be
replaced. Ms. Brabender Mattox suggested taking this same stance for the current proposals. Mr.
Arnold proposed updating the earlier 2010 letter and using similar wording to express Landmarks
disapproval of the proposed antennae modernizations. The Commission voted 4-0 to have staff update
the 2010 letter and submit it to the consultant on Landmarks'behalf(Arnold/Cummings).
9. Wisconsin Association of Historic Preservation Commissions -Preservation Awards-Oshkosh
Nominations-Update
Ms. Brabender Mattox explain that she had nominated the Fraternal Reserve but it was rejected due to
lack of images. Mr. Cummings explained that he had a copy of the book of images showing the
restoration. Mr. Wiley stated that he had a couple copies of this book in his office. The Wisconsin
Historical Society obtained a grant for the training of Commissioners which allowed for the CAMP to
occur.
Ms. Brabender Mattox asked if Mr. Arnold was registered. Mr. Wiley had explained that he had sent
Mr. Arnold the information and later registered him. Ms. Brabender Mattox explained that WAHPC
and the Wisconsin Trust for Historic Preservation had award presentations scheduled for 4:30 PM in
the Library dome after the CAMP. She stated that that she was expecting about 100 people to attend
and that she would be helping with the setup. Ms. Stoll Olthoff explained that she could help with the
award reception.
10. WHS-CAMP/Awards Reception-Oshkosh Public Library-April 12,2019 at 4:30 PM
This event was to occur in tandem with the WAHPC event in April and discussed with Item 9.
11. Lakeshore Historic Site Signage-Discussion
Mr. Wiley explained that Mr. Davis had asked him to place this item on the Landmarks agenda for
discussion. Mr. Davis had potential CIP funding from the Riverwalk project that could be used for 2
markers similar to the signage installed in the Center City area. Ms. Brabender Mattox explained that
perhaps the most important aspect was that the UWM team working on the site believed that a portion
of it was eligible for the National/State Registers. She asked if Mr. Wiley had connected with the
Wisconsin Historical Society on the eligibility. Mr. Wiley had not yet done so. Mr. Cummings
explained that he had some conversations with Oshkosh Corp about installing markers that focused on
the lumber industry. He stated that this was a bigger project than a sign. Ms. Brabender Mattox stated
that 8,000 years of history was not something that a sign or two could address. She suggested that the
Oshkosh Public Museum get involved. Mr. Cummings stated that Augusta, Georgia along their river
was an example. Ms. Stoll Olthoff asked if UW-Oshkosh's anthropology department could assist. Ms.
Brabender Mattox stated that the University could assist. The county Historical Society was another
potential partner. Mr. Arnold stated that the project was larger than what the Landmarks Commission
alone could handle. Mr. Cummings suggested that the UW-Oshkosh History department could assist
in doing research and writing the drafts. Ms. Stoll Olthoff asked what the process was to get the state
involved. Ms. Brabender Mattox suggested reaching out to the state historical society. The Convention
and Visitors Bureau and UW-Oshkosh were mentioned as potential partners in the project. Mr. Wiley
agreed to inform Mr. Davis of Landmarks' discussions regarding the Lakeshore site.
12. Commissioner Statements
a. 404 W. New York Avenue: Local Landmarking-Shirley Brabender Mattox/Rich Green
Ms. Brabender Mattox mentioned that Mr. Green was working on this for his property but that
she was not sure if he was in town.
b. Tax Credit Workshop Update-Steven Wiley
Ms. Brabender Mattox explained that Mr. Wiley had attended a day-long seminar by the
Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison and that she had asked him to update the Commission
on this when he had a chance.
c. Feedback on Landmarks Website Stats
Mr. Buchholz did not make the meeting so Mr. Wiley did not have any new information on this
item.
d. Feedback on Landmarks Facebook Page-Steven Wiley
Mr. Wiley explained that this was covered before. Ms. Brabender Mattox suggested showing
projects on the Facebook page and showing before and after images if owners are working on
rehabbing their historic properties. She suggested expanding the page and showing work by
Henry Auler and E.E. Stevens and J.T. Raycraft. For any commissioners with materials to post,
they could submit this to Mr. Wiley.
e. 303 Washington Avenue (Corbett House)-Discussion-Steve Cummings
Mr. Cummings explained that he did not have any further updates since speaking with owner
Randy Schmiedel who indicated that he did not have plans to demolish the property.
f. 434 Church Avenue-Update
Mr. Wiley did not have much new information on this property. Mr. Ambas was working on
obtaining quotes from contractors but was struggling with getting the quotes. Mr. Wiley stated
that the owner was considering just renting a lift and scraping and painting.
g. Chief Oshkosh-Progress Report-Steve Cummings
Mr. Cummings stated that he had a meeting a few weeks prior to the Landmarks meeting and
had discussed four markers (North, South, East and West). He wanted to meet with the tribal
leader.
h. Historic Walking Tour-Oshkosh Public Library-Shirley Brabender Mattox
Ms. Brabender Mattox explained that the Library was working on a new interactive historic
walking tour and that the tour would run from Jefferson Street to Court Street. She encouraged
the Commission to explore the Vamond app.
13. Agenda Items for Next Meeting (May 8,2019: 3 PM in City Hall Room 203)
Ongoing items such as the Historic Preservation Plan, Acanthus Awards,properties at 217 High
Avenue and 434 Church Avenue, the website and Facebook stats. Any ongoing items that might come
up before the next meeting also would be included on the agenda.
14. Adjournment
Mr. Cummings made a motion to adjourn and Mr. Arnold seconded. Meeting adjourned at 5:32 pm (4-
0).
Recorded by:
Steven Wiley,Assistant Planner