HomeMy WebLinkAbout02. Common Council Minutes PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMON COUNCIL
CITY OF OSHKOSH, WISCONSIN
JANUARY 9, 2018
MEETING held Tuesday, January 9, 2018, at 5:00 p.m. in room 404 at City Hall.
Mayor Cummings presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Steven Herman, Caroline Panske, Jake Krause, Lori
Palmeri and Mayor Steve Cummings
EXCUSED: Council Members Deb Allison-Aasby and Tom Pech, Jr.
ALSO PRESENT: Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk.
MOTION: TO CONVENE INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION
19.85(1)(C) OF THE WISCONSIN STATE STATUTES TO DISCUSS
THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION AND COMPENSATION
REGARDING THE CITY MANAGER AN EMPLOYEE OVER
WHICH THE COMMON COUNCIL HAS JURSIDICTION AND
EXERCISES RESPONSIBILITY. (Herman; second, Panske)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Herman, Panske, Krause, Palmeri, Mayor Cummings
MOTION: ADJOURN (Herman; second, Cummings)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 5:01 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMON COUNCIL
CITY OF OSHKOSH, WISCONSIN
JANUARY 9, 2018
REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday, January 9, 2018, at 6:00 p.m. in Council Chambers,
City Hall
Mayor Cummings presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Deb Allison-Aasby, Steven Herman, Caroline Panske,
Jake Krause, Lori Palmeri and Mayor Steve Cummings
EXCUSED: Council Member Tom Pech, Jr.
ALSO PRESENT: Mark Rohloff, City Manager; Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk; Lynn
Lorenson, City Attorney; and Allen Davis, Director of Community Development
Council Member Allison-Aasby read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Kaitlin Rost, Gracie Jean Zahner & Andree Cardinal
from Carl Traeger Elementary School; and, Olive Rost from Carl Traeger Middle School.
INTRODUCTION OF CITY STAFF
Ms. Lorenson introduced Amy Vanden Hogen, Assistant City Attorney.
CITIZEN STATEMENTS
There were no citizen statements to Council.
CONSENT AGENDA
Report of Sills by the Finance Director
Receipt & Filing of Oshkosh Public Museum Minutes from November 2, 2017
Receipt & Filing of Common Council Minutes from November 28 & December 12, 2017
PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMON COUNCIL—JANUARY 9, 2018
Resolution 18-01 Approve Interagency Agreement for Level "B" Hazardous Materials
(HAZMAT) Response Services with Winnebago County
Resolution 18-02 Approve Specific Implementation Plan Amendment for
Construction of a Garage Building at 500 South Oakwood Road —
Mercy Medical Center (Plan Commission Recommends Approval)
Resolution 18-03 Approve Spot Blight Designation; Authorize Redevelopment
Authority to Acquire 948 West 41h Avenue ($19,000.00)
(Redevelopment Authority Recommends Approval)
Resolution 18-04 Approve Budget Amendment for Community Development Block
Grant Revolving Loan Fund ($800,000.00) & Senior Center Building
Account ($5,000.00)
Council Member Herman asked for an explanation of the revisions.
Mr. Rohloff stated it was related to the new Munis software.
Trena Larson, Director of Finance, explained the original budget was being amended by
fully funded items. She stated there would be a room renovation at the Senior Center to
enable expansion of existing programming. She explained the Community Development
Block Grant (CDBG) program would utilize existing and new funds to assist with down-
payment assistance. She stated the room renovation at the Senior Center had not been
anticipated with the initial budget, however, there was available funding.
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of how the $800,000 would be
allocated in 2018.
Mr. Davis stated he believed the total included any repayments from previous
loans/mortgages that had been satisfied. He explained it was a repayment program,
which made it difficult to predict how much money would come in on an annual basis.
He stated the program had evolved a fund for owner rehab projects, owner assistance
down-payments and rental rehabilitation. He explained the total included the
anticipation of any kind of award from the federal government or CDBG funds for 2018,
which included the entire list of CDBG activities such as public services and other items
that were commonly listed in block grant funds. He explained the Munis software had
not correctly reflected the information and had needed to be updated.
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Council Member Palmeri questioned if it was anticipated that the City would utilize the
full funds that were received in 2018.
Mr. Davis stated yes, the repayment funds would need to be utilized first and then the
new funds received from CDBG could be spent.
Council Member Palmeri questioned in addition to providing down-payment assistance
and owner/rental rehabilitation,were there additional items that the funds would be used
for in 2018.
Ms. Larson stated the funds were limited to use for rehabilitation and down-payment
assistance. She explained there was other CDBG funding that could be utilized for other
purposes, however, the specific funds Council Member Palmeri was referring to was
specifically designated for rehabilitation and down-payment assistance.
Resolution 18-05 Approve General Development Plan& Conditional Use Permit for a
Dog Daycare & Overnight Boarding at 2575 State Road 44 (Plan
Commission Recommends Approval)
Resolution 18-06 Approve Special Event — Otter Street Fishing Club to utilize
Menominee Park & Millers Bay Boat Launch Parking Lot for the
Otter Street Winter Fisheree /January 31 through February 3, 2018
Resolution 18-07 Approve Special Event — Battle on Sago Foundation utilize
Menominee Park & Millers Bay Boat Launch Parking Lot for the
Battle on Sago Ice Fishing event/February 23 & 24, 2018
Resolution 18-08 Approve Special Event — National Alliance on Mental Illness
(NAMI) to utilize City streets for the Oshkosh 5K for Mental Health
& Suicide Awareness held at the Oshkosh North High School/May
5, 2018
Resolution 18-09 Approve Special Event — Otter Street Fishing Club & Battle on Sago
to utilize Menominee Park for the Otter Street Walleye Tournament
/June 15, 16 & 17, 2018
Resolution 18-10 Approve Special Event—UW Oshkosh to utilize Menominee Park &
City streets for the Titan 5K/August 4, 2018
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Resolution 18-11 Approve Special Event — Otter Street Fishing Club to utilize
Menominee Park Ames Point for the Otter Street Kids Fisheree /
August 10 & 11, 2018
Resolution 18-12 Approve Special Event — Dutrirun to utilize City streets &
Menominee Park for Race the Lake /August 26, 2018
Resolution 18-13 Disallowance of Claim by Celia Sawicki
Resolution 18-14 Approve Appointments to the following:
Oshkosh Housing Authority
Long Range Finance Committee
Plan Commission
Resolution 18-15 Approve Special "Class S" License, Agent Change for Combination
"Class A" License, Operator Licenses & Secondhand Dealer Licenses
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA (Herman; second, Allison-Aasby)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Palmeri, Mayor
Cummings
ACTION TAKEN ON ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
Ordinance 18-16 Modify Parking Regulations on 91h Avenue
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Ordinance 18-17 Amend Penalties for Possession of Marijuana/Adults
FIRST READING
MOTION: WITHDRAW (Herman; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Palmeri, Mayor
Cummings
Mayor Cummings requested those who wished to speak on ordinances 18-17 and 18-18
remember that it was not the time to debate the pros/cons or legalization of marijuana
and discussion should be focused on the items in the ordinances.
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Council Member Herman asked for an explanation of ordinances 18-17 and 18-18.
Ms. Lorenson explained both of the ordinances were the result of direction provided to
City staff at the December 121h Council meeting. She stated ordinance 18-17 had been
direction from Council Member Krause to reduce the fine to $50 for a first offense of
possession of marijuana where the amount possessed was equal to or less than 7 grams,
and $150 for a first offense of possession where the amount possessed was greater than 7
grams and less than or equal to 28 grams. She explained ordinance 18-18 was the result
of direction from Council Member Pech to reduce the forfeiture for first offense
possession of marijuana to $200.
Council Member Herman questioned if ordinance 18-18 had tiers.
Ms. Lorenson stated no.
Council Member Krause stated he understood there was concern related to how to weigh
the marijuana. He explained it was easy to weigh if it was in plant form or in a cigarette,
however, it was difficult to determine the weight if it was in a brownie or edible. He
questioned if there was a way to construct the ordinance to refer to the weight of pure
marijuana and not a brownie or other edible.
Dean Smith, Chief of Police, stated he would defer to the City Attorney. He explained in
his opinion they would be able to weigh plant material and not an edible.
Council Member Krause stated weighing an edible would result in a weight over 25
grams which would result in a felony.
Chief Smith stated including the tiers related to weight in the ordinance would require
the City to prove the material weighed a specific amount and provide documentation to
the court.
Council Member Krause stated he understood other municipalities had tiered systems
that were successful.
Chief Smith stated he believed Council Member Krause had indicated La Crosse had an
ordinance related to weight, and limited the amount to 7 grams.
Council Member Krause asked how they weighed the material.
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Chief Smith stated they estimated based on how much appeared to be present; he
explained he did not want his department to operate that way.
Council Member Krause explained he believed it would not be difficult to visually
identify 7 grams versus 25 grams.
Chief Smith stated that was correct; La Crosse limited their ordinance to 7 grams and
anything above that amount was a criminal offense.
Council Member Panske asked for an explanation of the procedure related to an
individual possessing marijuana. She stated she did not understand why the police
department was opposed to a tiered ordinance based on weight.
Chief Smith indicated a police officer would have discretion to charge an individual with
an ordinance violation or a criminal violation, depending on the circumstances of the
case. He explained the concern related to weight occurred when an edible, or an oil/wax
was involved; it would result in the individual being charged criminally. He stated this
would limit the officers' ability to use discretion.
Council Member Panske questioned what the current procedures were related to
weighing plant material.
Chief Smith stated they did not need to weigh plant material; it was chemically tested by
court approved test kits.
Council Member Panske questioned where those tests were completed.
Chief Smith stated officers carried the kits and tested the material on location.
Council Member Panske questioned if each squad car was supplied with test kits and not
scales.
Chief Smith stated that was correct. He explained if scales became necessary they would
have to remain calibrated and be routinely tested, therefore if weight was used as part of
the element of the crime, the material, and potentially the individual in possession of the
material, would need to be taken to police headquarters to be weighed/tested.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if Council were to adopt the tiered ordinance if it
could end up doing the opposite of what the original petition intended, due to the weight
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restrictions creating more criminal charges as more material would have to go to the
crime lab. She stated she was not certain if she correctly interpreted the implications.
Chief Smith stated it would be possible that additional criminal charges could be a
consequence. He explained anytime an edible was encountered, it would result in a
criminal charge due to the weight restrictions. He stated under the current ordinance,
the edible could be tested for THC and the individual would likely be issued an ordinance
violation ticket.
Council Member Krause questioned if it was possible to have an ordinance specific to
plant based marijuana material and rolled cigarettes.
Ms. Lorenson explained it would be challenging to write, however, Council could
provide direction to City staff to do so. She explained the concern was that adding weight
would result in overcharging for something that was currently being cited as an
ordinance violation. She stated it would limit the amount of discretion officers were able
to use.
Council Member Krause stated he did not want unintended consequences to occur. He
explained he understood the concern with weighing edibles. He questioned if
eliminating edibles from the ordinance would make the enforcement easier for the
officers.
Chief Smith explained it would, although including the weight would still result in
individuals needing to be taken to the police department.
Council Member Krause stated he believed it would be in the individual's best interest to
spend the short amount of time at the police department to have the material weighed.
Chief Smith explained the officer would have the discretion to charge criminally
depending on the situation.
Council Member Panske asked for an explanation of how Council could amend the
ordinance to refer solely to plant based/rolled material.
Ms. Lorenson stated it was a first reading and the public comment portion had not taken
place yet, therefore it was not the time for an amendment.
Council Member Panske stated she understood; she was asking if it was something
Council would be able to do by specifying raw or rolled material.
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Ms. Lorenson stated Council would be able to provide City staff that direction; she would
need to exercise due diligence in drafting the verbiage and bring the amendment back to
Council for the second reading.
Mayor Cummings stated he believed Council needed to provide City staff more specific
direction. He explained he believed there needed to be more Council consensus before
direction was provided to City staff.
Council Member Krause questioned if both ordinances could be placed on the following
Council agenda and amended at that time if necessary.
Ms. Lorenson stated yes; that was the typical course of action.
Council Member Krause stated Council Member Pech was not present to vote and should
be considered on such a substantial topic.
Council Member Panske stated she agreed with Council Member Krause.
Council Member Krause questioned if City staff would be able to research the legality of
referencing 'pure' marijuana, not edibles, for the tiered system.
Ms. Lorenson stated yes.
Council Member Herman stated Council would not be able to pass both ordinances as
they would conflict with each other. He explained he believed Council needed to decide
which ordinance to pursue and provide clear direction to City staff. He stated he did not
support the tiered ordinance as it would result in officers spending a considerable
amount of time testing/weighing substances. He explained he did not believe it would
accomplish what the individuals who circulated the petition wanted. He stated police
officers did not make the decision to make an arrest based on the amount of the fine; they
enforced state statutes. He explained Council needed to decide which ordinance to
pursue and adopt it at the next Council meeting.
Council Member Palmeri stated she believed Council would be doing a disservice to the
people who had signed the petition if they adopted the tiered ordinance, and believed it
would overcomplicate the situation, potentially resulting in unintended negative
consequences. She explained she would be in favor of adopting 18-18 as it was more
straightforward and simplified; she stated Council could discuss amending the dollar
amount.
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Council Member Krause stated he would support 18-18 if Council amended the
forefeiture to a smaller amount and specified it was related to pure marijuana. He
explained he disagreed with the $200 fine as it was out of line with other progressive
cities in Wisconsin.
Council Member Panske questioned if Council Member Palmeri would suggest the
forfeiture amount in 18-18 be decreased.
Council Member Palmeri stated she believed 25 grams or less could be reduced to
between $150 and $175. She explained she believed it would be a compromise between
the two ordinances without overcomplicating things.
Council Member Panske explained she understood what Council Member Herman had
stated in regards to complicating the issue. She stated she would be willing to support
18-18 with an amendment reducing the forfeiture amount to $150.
Ms. Lorenson stated the forfeiture amount could be amended at the second reading.
Sharon Koerner, 709 Merritt Avenue, stated she believed this was a state issue. She
explained marijuana possession was illegal, and it was a waste of resources to dedicate
time to reduce the fine for those individuals breaking the law. She stated she had
discovered that if the fine was over$200,individuals were able to make payments instead
of paying it in a lump sum. She explained she learned a number of the arrests that were
made were not due solely to marijuana possession, they were a result of an altercation or
speeding. She stated she had experience with marijuana, and people reacted differently
to the drug. She explained she believed it gave the wrong message to young people in
the community if the City lowered the fine. She stated she resented that the City was
wasting time considering reducing the fine when there were more pressing matters at
hand. She explained Marinette had recently adopted an ordinance that prevented the
sale and use of marijuana in any form, in the event the state passed a law legalizing
marijuana, the City would be able to uphold their ordinance.
Dan Rylance, 602 E. Parkway Avenue, stated he had been involved in the petition
process. He explained he did not support either proposed ordinance and believed
Council needed to address what the petitioners had been asking for. He stated he was
frustrated by the sequence of events.
Mark Kelderman, W2457 Lomira Drive, Brownsville, explained the ordinance in
Marinette had been overturned by the courts. He stated it was his understanding that
the police were arresting 1 person every 3 days in Oshkosh for possession. He explained
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he believed Council was ignoring what the petitioners had requested. He stated an
amount should be decided upon and Council should vote.
Ordinance 18-18 Amend Penalties for Possession of Marijuana/Adults
MOTION: WITHDRAW (Krause; second, Panske)
MOTION WITHDRAWN, SECOND WITHDRAWN
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Ordinance 18-19 Authorize the Chief of Police and/or Director of Transportation to
Establish Temporary Speed Limits for Special Events
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Ordinance 18-20 Create Premier Economic Development District/ Sawdust District
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Ordinance 18-21 Approve Zone Change from Suburban Mixed Use District (SMU) to
Suburban Mixed Use District with Planned Development Overlay
(SMU-PD); 2130-2150 South Washburn Street (Plan Commission
Recommends Approval)
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Ordinance 18-22 Approve Amendment to Zoning Ordinance to Create Section 30-59
Corporate Business Park District (CSP) (Staff Recommends Waiving
the Rules & Adopting on First Reading) (Plan Commission
Recommends Approval)
MOTION: SUSPEND RULES (Herman; second, Allison-Aasby)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Palmeri, Mayor
Cummings
MOTION: ADOPT (Herman; second, Allison-Aasby)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Krause, Palmeri, Mayor
Cummings
Noes (1) Panske
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Council Member Panske stated she initially had supported the amendment to the zoning
ordinance as she had believed it would create higher end design standards and
appropriate materials. She explained she had been surprised when she learned it would
exclude certain types of stores such as tobacco/paraphernalia shops, adult book/video
stores, tattoo parlors, car washes and body piercing studios. She stated she had a hard
time supporting the change if it excluded specific types of businesses; she stated she felt
the businesses could exist in the area as long as they fell under the design standards and
appropriate materials, therefore she would not support the ordinance.
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of what 'support of retail' meant.
Darryn Burich, Planning Services Manager, stated in researching business park districts
in different municipalities, surrounding the business park tended to be restaurants, gyms
and retail shops that support those working in the business park. He explained the
excluded uses were items that the plan commission did not think would add to the
quality environment of the district. He stated when an adult video store had been
proposed near the south-west industrial park, there had been concern from the corporate
community that they did not want to expose clients or business partners to those types
of businesses.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if a gas station would be allowed.
Mr. Burich stated it would be possible under a conditional use permit.
Council Member Palmeri questioned why a car wash would not be allowed.
Mr. Burich explained it was the result of concerns that had been expressed by the plan
commission.
Council Member Palmeri stated it appeared to be subjective, and dependent on the type
of retail business.
Mr. Burich explained he believed there were certain types of businesses, such as adult
stores or strip clubs, which did not fit into the specific neighborhood environment they
were trying to create, that revolved around the business park.
Mayor Cummings stated the area would serve as a gateway to the community, and it was
the City's first change to design a gateway correctly from the beginning.
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Mr. Rohloff explained based on portions of the plan commission discussion, he believed
car washes had been excluded was due to the noise concern. He stated there was an
existing car wash, which could exist as a legal non-conforming use.
Ordinance 18-23 Approve Zone Change from Institutional District (I), Suburban
Mixed Use District (SMU), Suburban Mixed Use District with
Planned Development (SMU-PD) & Single Family Residential 2
District (SR-2) to Corporate Business Park with a Planned
Development Overlay for Property located at 1634 through 1900
Oshkosh Avenue & 1886 through 1936 Rath Lane (Staff
Recommends Waiving the Rules &Adopting on First Reading) (Plan
Commission Recommends Approval)
MOTION: SUSPEND RULES (Allison-Aasby; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Palmeri, Mayor
Cummings
MOTION: ADOPT (Herman; second, Allison-Aasby)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Palmeri, Mayor
Cummings
Council Member Herman asked for an explanation of the proposed zone change.
Mr. Davis stated the zone change would apply the district that the City recently created
to the Oshkosh Corporation parcels and Oshkosh Avenue frontage parcels.
Darryn Burich, Planning Services Manager, presented a map that showed the parcels.
Mr. Rohloff explained the only portion of Lakeshore Golf Course that would be rezoned
was the portion dedicated to Oshkosh Corporation; the balance of the land would remain
in its current zoning.
Resolution 18-24 Approve Agreement for Purchase & Sale of Property with Oshkosh
Corporation for portion of Lakeshore Municipal Golf Course
MOTION: ADOPT (Herman; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Palmeri, Mayor
Cummings
Present (1) Krause
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COUNCIL DISCUSSION, DIRECTION TO CITY MANAGER &FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Mayor Cummings explained there would be a joint workshop with the traffic review
board and plan commission to discuss the Oshkosh Avenue traffic impact study on
January 301h at 5:30 p.m.
Mr. Rohloff stated as soon as City staff received the results of the study, they would
provide it to Council to allow for review in advance of the workshop.
Mayor Cummings explained there was a joint meeting with the Oshkosh Area School
Board scheduled for January 31s' at 6:00 p.m.
Mr. Rohloff stated the only agenda item so far was the concern about transportation for
students that had been brought up at the previous Council meeting. He encouraged
Council to provide suggestions for meeting topics.
Council Member Palmeri stated the League of Women Voters was presenting a speaker
on that topic at a lunch meeting the following day, January 101h
James Rabe, Director of Public Works, explained Court Street was in the 2018 CIP to be
reconstructed from Ceape Avenue to Washington Avenue, in conjunction with Otter
Avenue and Washington Avenue. He stated there were several design options that City
staff would like Council to provide direction on.
Steve Gohde, Assistant Director of Public Works, described the current width of the
various portions of Court Street. He explained angled parking was being considered in
the reconstruction, and due to City policy, typically adjacent business owners were
responsible for the cost of that parking. He stated property owners had questioned the
cost of the parking as they believed it would be a community benefit as opposed to a
benefit solely related to the businesses. He requested direction from Council in regards
to the street width and parking.
Council Member Palmeri explained it was her understanding that there was varying
widths on the three blocks of Court Street that was scheduled for reconstruction.
Mr. Gohde stated with current pavement, yes.
Council Member Pech arrived at 7:13 p.m.
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Council Member Palmeri explained she understood they were considering narrowing the
street, due to the comprehensive plan suggesting 36 feet as opposed to 38 feet. She
questioned due to the close proximity of the fire station, if emergency response vehicles
would be slowed down if the street was narrowed and parallel parking established.
Mr. Rabe stated emergency response vehicles did not exit onto Court Street; they exited
onto Ceape Avenue.
Mr. Rohloff explained that if the emergency vehicles needed to go west on Ceape, they
utilized their lights/sirens and travelled the wrong way down the one-way street.
Council Member Palmeri stated there was varied opinion on angled parking. She
questioned if the streets remained unaligned, would the existing shift keep traffic to a
slower pace.
Mr. Rabe explained narrowing the street would significantly slow traffic down on Court
Street. He stated City staff was recommending 38 feet, which varied slightly from the
comprehensive plan's standard recommendation of 36 feet.
Council Member Palmeri questioned why City staff recommended 38 feet.
Mr. Rabe stated with parallel parking on both sides, the 38 feet width would allow for 11
foot driving lanes.
Council Member Panske stated she supported the 38 feet width and believed as long as
City staff had worked with the businesses, she did not believe angled parking was
necessary.
Council Member Herman questioned how many angled parking spots would be lost.
Mr. Gohde stated 9, and parallel parking would allow for a similar number of spots.
Council Member Herman stated he would support the 38 feet width with parallel
parking.
Mr. Rohloff thanked Council for their direction and explained City staff would begin
designing the street. He stated he had previously provided Council with the results of a
survey completed by the various boards/commissions, Council and City staff. He
explained within the Council packet was a document that showed the areas where a
majority of the respondents, 60% or more, indicated they felt strongly. He stated he
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separated Council's responses so they could see where they stood as a whole. He
reviewed the various standout responses, and indicated terms would end in May,
therefore decisions regarding the boards/commissions should be made relatively soon.
He explained there were various ways boards/commissions could be combined without
immediately reducing membership, instead reducing it over time. He explained he
would put the topic on a future agenda for Council to provide official direction, and the
two most notable responses were in favor of combining the traffic review board with the
parking utility, and the Grand Opera House advisory board with the landmarks
commission.
Council Member Palmeri stated she was a member of the parking utility; the group had
not met as frequently as they had when the parking study was being completed. She
questioned if bike and ped should be combined into the traffic advisory board.
Council Member Panske stated she would not recommend that as the committee had
sufficient work to complete on their own. She explained they were better suited to be a
freestanding committee.
Council Member Krause stated he was a member of the traffic advisory board and
thought it would be possible to combine with a different board if the meeting length was
extended. He questioned what kind of feedback had been received for changing
membership criteria.
Mr. Rohloff stated the response had been relatively low, and Council had not had a strong
opinion. He explained it had been discussed during a meeting with the Mayor and the
chairs of the various boards/commissions, as a suggestion to increase membership.
Council Member Herman stated during his 8 years on Council he had served on a number
of the boards/commissions. He explained he believed the parking utility and traffic
review boards could be combined. He stated the arts and beautification committee was
relatively new, and he believed they should have time to determine their direction before
combining with a different group. He explained he thought the Grand Opera House
advisory board would be well suited to join the landmarks commission. He stated he felt
the long range finance committee and transit advisory board should remain standalone
committees. He explained he believed there could be streamlining of the processes of
topics that were brought through the various boards/commissions, as the process was
often slowed down.
Mr. Rohloff stated that had not been the scope of the research, and there was a variety of
opinions on that topic.
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Mayor Cummings encouraged any citizen interested to apply for a board/commission.
Council Member Panske stated she understood Council Member Herman's point, and
believed there were opportunities for workshops to move items through the
boards/commissions faster. She stated she agreed with combining parking utility with
traffic advisory, and the Grand Opera House advisory board with the landmarks
commission.
Mr. Rohloff stated City staff would prepare an item for the next Council agenda to allow
Council to provide additional direction. He explained the transition language would take
time to develop.
CITIZEN STATEMENTS TO COUNCIL
There were no citizen statements to Council.
CO UNCIL MEMBER ANNO UNCEMENTS & STATEMENTS
Mayor Cummings stated he and Council Member Palmeri had given testimony in
Madison the previous Wednesday in regards to the proposed rental inspection bill.
Council Member Palmeri stated they had each been able to provide short testimonies
regarding the rental inspection bills SB-639 and AB-771, and Mr. Rohloff had provided
testimony regarding the developer bill AB-770. She stated they had testified in
opposition to the bills as the changes recommended going back to the complaint based
format, and the City had passed an ordinance in the previous year requiring a regular
interval of inspections for rental housing. She explained there had been a number of
people testifying from all over the state, and it had been interesting to hear the variety of
ways municipalities had chosen to address the issue. She stated she understood a
number of compromises would be made that would allow municipalities to target
specific geographic areas as opposed to requiring a city-wide program.
Mayor Cummings stated there had been a good cross-section of individuals from various
parts of the state, and regardless of the size of the community, it seemed as though each
community was experiencing a problem in unsafe/unsanitary housing conditions. He
explained he believed it was important for the state to allow municipalities to have local
control and fix their own problems. He stated they felt encouraged and he believed the
testimony had been well received.
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Mr. Rohloff explained he believed the original legislation was not good; he was hopeful
that the proposed amendments would be received by the committee and forwarded. He
stated while he was optimistic, it was important to closely watch the process. He
explained Council Member Palmeri had focused on the tenant perspective which added
an important element as there were no tenants present to testify. He stated he agreed it
was beneficial to have control at a local level.
CITY MANAGER ANNO UNCEMENTS & STATEMENTS
Mr. Rohloff explained the City had contracted with a company called POLCO, which
provided civic engagement surveying. He stated the first project that would utilize the
software was determining what should be done with the balance of Lakeshore Golf
Course. He explained once an individual registered for the survey, their demographic
information would remain on file, therefore they would not need to re-enter the
information for future surveys. He stated while there was not enough time to launch it
this year, it would be possible to use the software as the new platform for the annual
citizen survey.
Council Member Herman stated the purpose was to gain public input, as many meetings
and workshops were not well attended by citizens. He explained there were verifications
in place that allowed only one survey per person. He stated gathering input from the
citizens would help in topic discussions on the boards/commissions as well as Council.
He explained the survey for the remaining golf course land would be ready in
approximately a week, and be available for 7-10 days.
Council Member Palmeri questioned how the software confirmed an individual was a
resident of Oshkosh.
Council Member Herman indicated respondents would need to enter their name and he
believed there was additional verification information required.
Mr. Rohloff stated POLCO had explained the technical aspects of how their software
could use geo-technics to determine if the respondent was a resident.
Council Member Palmeri questioned what would prevent an individual from entering
their neighbor's name/address.
Council Member Herman stated he was not certain.
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Council Member Panske questioned who would decide which questions were posted.
Mr. Rohloff stated there would be a centralized City staff member, likely Emily
Springstroh, responsible. He explained it was important not to inundate the public with
surveys and dilute the effectiveness of the tool. He stated it was a Wisconsin based
company with multiple users throughout the state that could be used to provide advice
on how to use the software effectively.
Council Member Panske questioned who would receive the results.
Mr. Rohloff stated he believed City staff would wait until the survey was closed and then
provide the results to the applicable group and with the public.
Council Member Panske explained she believed it should be available to the public and
transparent.
Mr. Rohloff stated some items, such as the citizen survey, would have additional work
prior to the results being shared.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if there had been discussion about how the product
could help the survey reach different demographics.
Mr. Rohloff stated the company did not make specific recommendations on how to
improve that, however, the software would provide aggregate demographic data to
allow City staff to identify areas that were underrepresented. He explained there had
been several agenda items related to the sale/redevelopment of the golf course to
Oshkosh Corporation. He stated the developers agreement would be discussed in closed
session and brought forward in approximately a month. He explained archaeological
concerns were being addressed, similar to the process that had taken place with Say
Shore Drive.
Council Member Pech questioned if the 'move in' date was December of 2019.
Mr. Rohloff explained City staff had put that date in the tentative schedule, however,
Oshkosh Corporation hoped to be on site in fall of 2019.
Mayor Cummings questioned if they had received the archaeological study results from
Say Shore Drive.
James Rabe,Director of Public Works, stated to his knowledge, City staff had not received
a final report.
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Mayor Cummings questioned how much the archaeological work at Say Shore Drive had
cost.
Mr. Rabe stated he did not recall the specific amount.
Mr. Rohloff stated related to the archaeological work at Lake Shore Golf Course, any
recovered items with historical significance would be turned over to the Oshkosh Public
Museum.
MOTION: TO CONVENE INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO
19.85(1)(E) OF THE WISCONSIN STATE STATUTES TO DISCUSS
BARGAINING OPTIONS, STRATEGY, PARAMETERS AND
TERMS RELATED TO THE NEGOTIATION OF AN AGREEMENT
WITH OSHKOSH CORPORATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
A PORTION OF LAKESHORE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE AND
TO DISCUSS BARGAINING OPTIONS, STRATEGY,
PARAMETERS, AND TERMS RELATED TO THE POTENTIAL
PURCHASE OF PROPERTY NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF
OSHKOSH AVENUE AND SAWYER STREET WHERE
COMPETITIVE BARGAINING REASONS REQUIRE A CLOSED
SESSION (Herman; second, Pech).
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech, Palmeri,
Mayor Cummings
MOTION: ADJOURN (Herman; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 7:52 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
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