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ADVISORY PARK BOARD
OCTOBER 9, 2017
Present: Amy Davis, Tony Dirth, Bill Gogolewski, Steve Herman, Todd Kaufmann, Bill Miller,
Carrie Rule, Megan Schuessler, Terry Wohler
Excused: None
Other: David Shadick, Leadership Oshkosh Adjunct Board Member; Peter Lang, The Morgan
Partners, LLC
Staff: Ray Maurer, Parks Director; Chad Dallman, Parks Operations Manager; Jenny McCollian,
Revenue Facilities Manager; Stacy James, Recording Secretary
CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL
Chairman Wohler called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M. A quorum was determined to be present. Bill
Miller arrived at 6:04 p.m. bringing attendance to nine members.
INTRODUCTION
Mr. Maurer introduced David Shadick, the new Leadership Oshkosh Adjunct Board Member. Mr. Shadick
thanked the Board for having him. He has worked with Oshkosh Defense for the past 9 ½ years, two of
which were at Pierce Manufacturing in Neenah. He is happy to be back in the Oshkosh area and excited to
be a part of this Board.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Schuessler for approval of the August 14, 2017 minutes. Seconded by Gogolewski.
Motion carried 9-0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Gogolewski for approval of the September 11, 2017 minutes. Seconded by Dirth.
Motion carried 9-0.
CITIZEN STATEMENTS & PARK BUSINESS
1) CONSIDER REQUEST TO PROHIBIT FISHING ALONG THE FOX RIVER RIVERWALK, JELD
WEN SECTION, WEST (AND EAST) OF OREGON STREET
Mr. Maurer wanted to advise the Board and public that the original agenda was incorrect stating that the
section was only west of Oregon Street. The request is actually for the section to the East of Oregon Street
a well. Morgan Partners, the development firm, is bringing this request to the City asking for the
provision.
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In the past a no-fishing provision was approved along the north side of the river where there is
commercial property located between Main Street and Jackson Street. Morgan Partners is asking for an
ordinance change at this time to preserve the property depending on the future developments that end up
going in at the Jeld-Wen location. Mr. Gogolewski inquired if this no-fishing zone would go all the way
thru the Dockside Tavern property and beyond. Mr. Maurer explained that at this time there is no
easement to build the Riverwalk along those properties. Mrs. Rule inquired whether the reason for the
request was that this will be a business district. At this time Mr. Maurer invited Peter Lang to come before
the board and address these questions.
Peter Lang introduced himself as a partner of The Morgan Partners, LLC, the real estate firm which
currently owns the land. His firm is working through development prospects for the property at this time.
It is anticipated that there may be some residential properties as well as commercial properties in this
area. At the time the easement was requested by the city their firm asked that a no-fishing provision be
adopted for this stretch of the Riverwalk. He is unsure what the final development plans will be for the
properties and as such he is requesting the ordinance to preserve the property. Mrs. Rule stated that
depending on how the property is developed she is worried that if the Board is not consistent with their
provisions for no-fishing along the Riverwalk that it could pose a problem.
Mr. Wohler inquired if it was his intention to have a no-fishing provision along this property from the
beginning. He also inquired whether there would be private docks along the property. Mr. Lang
responded that the property was gifted with the understanding that the no-fishing ordinance would apply
to the land. It is their intention to have private docks along the property in the future, a certain amount of
which have already been approved by the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources. He believes there
is plenty of public access in other areas of the Riverwalk for fishing and the request could change
depending on the development of the property. However, at this time, he would like to preserve the
property and have a no-fishing ordinance in place for this stretch of Riverwalk.
Mr. Wohler stated that he personally feels it would be ok to approve the request. This isn’t an area that
had public fishing previously, so there isn’t anything being taken away from the community. He is
concerned that if the implication was given at the time of the gift that this would be a no-fishing area and
then it is taken away now it is not done in good faith. There are plenty of public fishing opportunities
along the Riverwalk and feels that the Board could support this request.
Mr. Miller thanked Mr. Lang and his company for the donation.
Motion by Rule to accept request to prohibit fishing along the Fox River Riverwalk, Jeld Wen
section, west and east of Oregon Street. Seconded by Miller. Motion carried 9-0.
2) ACCEPT PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED IN
JACKSON STREET CORRIDOR ON CITY’S NORTH SIDE – BRISTOL SQUARE
SUBDIVISION
Mr. Maurer explained that this subdivision development is currently being reviewed by the Plan
Commission. This is an area of the City that was marked as needing a neighborhood park when the 2011
Comprehensive Outdoor Recreation Plan (CORP) was completed. He does not anticipate that the need
will
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change with the updated CORP later this year. He showed the Board the map with the proposed location
for the park which will be approximately 3.2 acres. This is in line with city ordinance requiring that new
subdivisions either provide a parkland dedication to the city or pay a fee in lieu of parkland. It has been
recommended in the past that parkland space is preferred over fees and the Plan Commission is
supportive of the plat as it has been proposed.
Mr. Gogolewski asked whether there was a park of similar size in the city at this time for comparison. Mr.
Maurer stated that 44 Parallel Park would be comparable in size to what is being dedicated. Mr. Wohler
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confirmed that he likes the idea of parkland space over money since land is a premium and more isn’t
being made. He feels that the parkland space should always be done when possible.
Mr. Kaufmann pointed out that there looks to be a sewer easement on this parcel of property and he
wondered if that will pose any problems. Mr. Maurer explained that this is an old easement and
engineering is working to have it removed which will lessen restrictions on the land.
Mr. Miller agreed that it is better to have the park space over the money in lieu of parkland dedication. He
also inquired how far below the national average Oshkosh is currently for average park space per citizen.
Mr. Maurer stated that the National Parks and Recreation Association has set a standard of 7-10 acres per
thousand residents. The city is currently at roughly 5 acres per thousand. In 2011 the CORP recommended
focusing more on the level of services provided to the public rather than park space per resident.
Motion by Dirth to accept Parkland Dedication for development of property located in Jackson
Street corridor on City’s north side – Bristol Square Subdivision. Seconded by Schuessler. Motion
carried 9-0.
3) REVIEW COMPREHENSIVE OUTDOOR RECREATION PLAN (CORP) SURVEY RESULTS
Mr. Maurer explained that in everyone’s packet they received a document outlining the results of the
CORP survey that was provided to the citizens earlier this year. This information will be provided to
Rettler Corporation to be incorporated in the updated CORP. He then went through the survey results
with the Board. There were slightly fewer responses this time around versus the survey in 2011 because
the prior survey included more input by user groups. They were not targeted with this survey because
they had completed one for the Convention and Visitors Bureau last year and that information will be
taken into account with the CORP update as well.
Mr. Maurer then went through some of the survey responses regarding demographics. He more closely
reviewed the respondents’ satisfaction with park conditions. He noted that back in 2011 only 27% of
respondents stated that they were very satisfied with park conditions and this time around 38% rated it at
very satisfied. The somewhat satisfied numbers stayed similar at about 50%. Overall there was an increase
in park conditions satisfaction and he feels that is a testament to the work being completed by the Parks
Department staff who deserve credit for a job well done. Mr. Miller wondered whether follow-up
questions were provided regarding why users weren’t satisfied with conditions. Mr. Maurer explained
that there were questions further along that addressed any concerns.
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Mr. Maurer continued on with reviewing the survey and requests for work to be completed. The usual
concerns were voiced concerning restrooms (his department is trying to renovate one restroom per year to
remain up to date), playground maintenance (the department is pushing to replace at least one
playground per budget cycle), trash pick-up and trail maintenance. They continue to work these requests
into the budget as they are able. It is always helpful to have a continual review of public requests so that
changes can be made to their maintenance plans. The reason that the Menominee Park Carousel
replacement was individually addressed was because it will cost approximately $100,000-150,000 to make
the necessary repairs to the carousel and the department wanted to inquire of the public whether they
thought it would be a wise use of budget funds. Approximately 30% of the respondents feel it is
important to make the repairs and there will need to be fundraising and donations requested in order to
be able to do so.
Survey results show continued work needs to be done regarding walking and biking trails. It also
provided good feedback regarding how the public is using the parks, which parks are used the most and
which events the public is attending. Mr. Miller inquired what percentage of shelters are used throughout
the year. Mrs. James responded that in the summer months about 95% of the shelters are rented out every
weekend as well as multiple rentals throughout the week. The shelters that are reserved first are enclosed
shelters and ones with utilities, restrooms and located close to playgrounds. She was surprised that even
during the school year these facilities are rented quite frequently on the weekends.
Mr. Maurer continued with the survey results regarding the reservation process for shelters and customer
satisfaction. There was a question regarding implementation of an ordinance for tobacco free parks. Mr.
Maurer explained that this request has come from the Re:TH!NK organization. Survey results showed that
the public is in favor of such an ordinance with 66% in favor. Mr. Miller inquired as to how common this
ordinance is throughout the state. Currently there are about ten municipalities with ordinances that the
group is reviewing. The numbers will be reviewed more thoroughly in November when there will be an
agenda item regarding this request and the Re:TH!NK group will give a presentation. While Mr. Maurer
could not speak on behalf of Chief Smith, he stated that even if the ordinance is adopted, enforcement
would be difficult and not high on their list of concerns with the police department.
Mr. Maurer then referenced the Memorandum that he passed out to the Board at the beginning of the
meeting. This document had some of the general comments that the respondents provided from the
survey. He didn’t feel that any of the comments were too surprising but they will be taken into account for
the updated CORP document. He feels that overall the survey results provide good information for the
department and Rettler will provide a basic analysis of the entire survey in the updated CORP.
Mr. Wohler voiced his opinion that he would have liked to have seen more of the public respond to the
survey so that they could have a broader idea of what the citizens would like to see.
PARK DIRECTOR’S REPORT
Mr. Maurer explained that he has been busy with staff reviews, budget items and the concerns regarding
the golf course so he will leave most updates to staff. He explained that council will receive the proposed
budget and meetings will be held with individual departments on October 30 and 31 to go over the budget
and Capital Improvement Program requests.
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On council agenda for the 12 of October is the special event fee proposal. Mr. Maurer gave a brief history
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of the reasoning for the request. When special event fees were reviewed it was discovered that there were
a lot of additional services being provided at the events that the city was not being compensated for. As
such between April and July of this year there was a special event working group that included a variety
of organizations as well as citizens that met along with himself, the special events coordinator and
Director of Finance to discuss the fees. The group worked together to create the proposal and he felt that
both sides were able to compromise to put together a good proposal.
ASSISTANT PARK DIRECTOR’S REPORT
Mr. Dallman gave an update on the projects that his department is currently working on. New
playgrounds have been installed and are nearing completion at Menominee Park Sea, Sand and Sailorland
as well as at Fugleberg Park. Crews cleaned up the sites to make them more useful and installed concrete
perimeters around the playgrounds. Work is wrapping up at the 24 Street Boat Launch. New paths have
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been installed to make it more accessible to get to the fishing dock. At the Parks shop the HVAC
renovations have begun and they continue to wrap up renovations at the Menominee Park Zoo
maintenance building. Crews are still working on completing mowing routes and they are beginning to
shut down the facilities for the season.
Mr. Gogolewski inquired about work at the Mary Jewell lift station. Mr. Dallman explained that the plans
for the site were received last week and they will be moving forward with that project in the next month
or so.
REVENUE FACILITIES MANAGER’S REPORT
Mrs. McCollian advised that they have closed down some of their facilities for the year and she is working
on completing that. The last weekend of September when they had the Touch-a-Truck event and the
closing day Children’s Day Parade was by far the hottest weekend of the year. They had moved the
Touch-a-Truck event from August to September in order to avoid the heat during the event but even
though the weather didn’t cooperate as they expected they still had 2,000 plus people attend the event and
there were a lot of positive comments. As always, Oshkosh Corporation was their big sponsor for the
event.
Her department also had a new event this year on the last day the Children’s Amusement Area was open.
There was a Children’s Day Parade along the path from the beach house to the Kiwanis Shelter. Children
were able to register to dress up for the parade and make floats. There were prizes for best float and
costume as well as snacks, pony rides and a bounce house. Again, despite the heat it was a well-attended
event.
The last event of the season is coming up on October 21 and 22, Zooloween Boo at Menominee Park Zoo.
She is still looking for volunteers to work the event and would encourage the Board to spread the word
that people can contact her if they want to help out. The event is always well attended and she anticipates
it will be another great event for the department.
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OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Herman stated that he would like to have an item added to the agenda for the next meeting. He would
like the Board to discuss winter activities that are available for the citizens in Oshkosh. Having the
activities and marketing them as options could draw more people to the city during the winter months.
Mr. Gogolewski stated that people are able to cross country ski at Lakeshore Municipal Golf Course in the
winter and Mr. Miller added that it is also available at Menominee Park. Mr. Herman thought we could
publicize the trails more to make people aware of the options in town.
Mr. Herman also wanted to inquire what would happen with memorial trees and benches currently
located at the golf course should something move forward with Oshkosh Corporation. Mr. Maurer
advised that they would be transplanted and placed elsewhere much like they were with the recent
upgrades at South Park.
Lastly, Mr. Herman stated that should Oshkosh Corporation show interest in purchasing land at the golf
course, he felt it would be good to have a discussion with the Board about whether or not the City wanted
to continue to be in the golf course business. If the land is purchased by the company for their
headquarters he wondered if there would still be enough green space to make a smaller golf course that
could be utilized. Mr. Maurer wanted to clarify that the plans that have been provided are very conceptual
at this point. They are trying to get a feel for if the land is purchased, what would people want to see out
of the space. None of the plans are set in stone because the Advisory Park Board would decide ultimately
what would happen with the remaining land.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Gogolewski for adjournment; seconded by Miller. Motion carried 9-0.
The meeting adjourned at 6:49 P.M
Respectfully submitted,
Stacy L. James
Stacy L. James, Recording Secretary