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CITY OF OSHKOSH, WISCONSIN
JUNE 13, 2017
REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday,June 13,2017, at 6:00 p.m. in Council Chambers, City
Hall
Mayor Cummings presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Lori Palmeri, Deb Allison-Aasby, Steven Herman,
Caroline Panske, Jake Krause, Tom Pech Jr., and Mayor Steve Cummings
ALSO PRESENT: Mark Rohloff, City Manager;Angela Joeckel, Deputy City Clerk;Lynn
Lorenson, City Attorney; and James Rabe, Director of Public Works
Council Member Lori Palmeri read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Council Member Palmeri.
INTRODUCTION OF CITY STAFF
Dean Smith, Chief of Police, introduced existing police department officers, Lieutenant
Matt Harris, Captain Becky Kaiser and Assistant Chief Kurt Schoeni who recently
accepted promotions.
LICENSE STATUS UPDATES
Mayor Cummings stated a representative from Packers Pub, 1603 W. 201h Avenue, was
present to provide an update.
Patrick Ruedinger, Packers Pub, explained he had been present at the previous Council
meeting and had been told if he did not have a tenant by June 6th, the license would not
be renewed. He stated the last interested tenant backed out and they did not have any
other prospective tenants, although they had started working with a realtor.
Council Member Pech questioned if the business had recently been listed for sale.
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Mr. Ruedinger explained he had listed the business himself and now was working with
a realtor.
Council Member Pech questioned other than the sale being managed by a different
person, if anything else had changed.
Mr. Ruedinger stated no.
Council Member Panske questioned if the property was being marketed by the real estate
firm as having a liquor license.
Mr. Ruedinger explained he did not believe they had a license to advertise. He stated it
was his understanding if he did not have a tenant by June 61h that Council would not
renew the license.
Council Member Pech stated Council had requested proof of intent.
Council Member Panske explained Council had requested a letter of interest.
Mr. Ruedinger stated his wife had indicated that the interested party had changed his
mind. He explained he had decided it was time to have a realtor manage the sale.
Council Member Pech questioned what kind of guarantee of marketing the realtor had
provided. He stated Council did not want to revoke the license, as he understood that
would make selling the business difficult, however, they were concerned about
continued inactivity.
Mr. Ruedinger stated he had brought the signed paperwork demonstrating he had
contracted with Dave Spanbauer to market the property. He explained if they received
an extension they would market the property with the liquor license.
Council Member Panske questioned if he would like to sell the property as a
restaurant/bar.
Mr. Ruedinger stated he believed it would be best to market the property as a
restaurant/bar and having the license was a significant marketing incentive.
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Council Member Pech questioned how long the property had been vacant without any
marketing.
Mr. Ruedinger stated he had personally been marketing the property since closing the
business, and three years prior to closing he had advertised the property as for sale. He
explained he had taken the property off of the market for a period of time and then
relisted it to spur interest.
Council Member Pech questioned how long it had been out of business.
Mr. Ruedinger stated it would be 2 years in August.
Council Member Pech questioned if Mr. Ruedinger had tried to sell the property prior to
closing.
Mr. Ruedinger stated yes.
Council Member Krause questioned if the price had been lowered while it was on the
market.
Mr. Ruedinger stated yes;he explained he had also dropped the price upon signing with
the realtor.
Council Member Krause questioned if he believed the price was comparable to the fair
market value.
Mr. Ruedinger stated he believed it was, as the property was located on a high potential
corner.
Council Member Palmeri questioned the last time the license was actively used.
Mr. Ruedinger stated it had been used up until they closed two years ago.
Council Member Allison-Aasby questioned why he believed there was a barrier to selling
the property.
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Mr. Ruedinger stated he believed it was due to low market value brought on by the
recession. He explained he had not wanted to simply 'give' the property away and he
remained current on taxes/related expenses. He stated he understood if he significantly
dropped the price it would likely sell, although he did not feel as though he was in a
position where he would need to do that. He explained he believed they had it listed at
a fair market price.
Council Member Krause questioned if the listing of the pub and the car wash were
combined.
Mr. Ruedinger stated they were.
Council Member Krause questioned if Mr. Ruedinger owned both properties.
Mr. Ruedinger stated he did although they were two different addresses he was selling
them together as a corner lot.
Council Member Krause questioned if he had attempted to sell the restaurant separately.
Mr. Ruedinger stated he believed the car wash lot was too small to sell by itself.
Mr. Krause stated it was possible that restaurant owner would not want to own a car
wash, which limited the prospective buyers.
Mr. Ruedinger explained he believed the car wash helped the profitability of the
restaurant and was an asset as a combined value.
Mayor Cummings questioned how long they had been in business at that location.
Mr. Ruedinger stated they had been open approximately 38 years.
Council Member Pech questioned what direction Council needed to provide City staff.
Mr. Rohloff explained Council had the option to proceed with the license renewal, issue
a notice of non-renewal, which was similar to a revocation hearing, or renew the license
and set it for review after a period of time, often 6 months.
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Ms. Lorenson stated the official decision would need to take place via resolution at the
follow meeting; tonight was simply an update on the status. She explained Council
would need to direct City staff to prepare the license for renewal, or for a non-renewal
hearing.
Council Member Pech questioned if Council was able to issue a renewal for six months.
Ms. Lorenson stated it was a one year license, although Council would be able to direct
City staff to review the license after 6 months.
Council Member Herman questioned if they renewed the license and if there was no
activity upon the 6 month review, they would be able to hold a revocation hearing at that
time.
Ms. Lorenson indicated that was correct.
Mayor Cummings stated he believed there were more than three closed restaurant/bars
within the City.
Council Member Herman stated Robbins, Mr. Cinders, Sisters and Packers Pub were
closed. He explained there were additional spots located in strip malls that had been
restaurants and were now vacant.
Mayor Cummings stated due to the number of similar establishments that were for sale
in the City and the number of years Mr. Ruedinger had been in business, he was inclined
to renew the license.
Council Member Herman stated he agreed. He explained Mr. Ruedinger had been a long
time owner in the City and he would support Council renewing the license and reviewing
it in 6 months.
Council Member Palmeri questioned how long Mr. Ruedinger's contract was with his
real estate agent.
Mr. Ruedinger stated it was for 6 months.
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Council Member Herman recommended renewing the license and reviewing it in 6
months. He stated he was not comfortable with revocation at this point.
Mayor Cummings stated nearly 40 years of business in one location was not an easy task.
Council Member Herman stated it had been a successful business.
Mr. Ruedinger explained they had not closed due to lack of patronage;it was simply time
to retire.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated Council appreciated his honesty.
Mr. Rohloff questioned if the consensus was to put the license on the next agenda for
renewal. He stated Council would be able to provide further direction to City staff if they
would like to review the license in 6 months.
Several Council Members agreed.
Mr. Ruedinger questioned what he should tell his realtor.
Council Member Herman stated his license would be on the following agenda to be
renewed. He explained Council may put a stipulation of reviewing the license after 6
months.
Council Member Pech stated his current license was valid through the end of June. He
explained at the following Council meeting, it would be on the agenda for renewal, and
at that time Council may give direction that the license will have a status report in 6
months.
Mr. Ruedinger stated he understood.
Mayor Cummings stated they needed to consider once there was an accepted offer, there
would be between 30-60 days prior to closing.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated the owner would contact City staff in the event of
any change because Council would not wish to take any action that would damage an
offer.
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Mr. Ruedinger agreed.
PUBLIC HEARING
Resolution 17-274 Approve Final Resolutions for Special Assessments Storm Sewer
Laterals /Various Locations
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Council Member Palmeri stated two individuals had been present earlier seeking
information about the assessments. She questioned if they had been able to meet with
Mr. Gohde.
Steve Gohde, Assistant Director of Public Works, stated they had.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if their questions had been answered.
Mr. Gohde stated yes.
CITIZEN STATEMENTS
Gary Gray, 815 W. Linwood Avenue, stated the beginning of the 2018 budget process
would begin in approximately one month. He explained department expenses, licensing
fees and state aid would be reviewed. He suggested Council look for creative
opportunities for revenue instead of relying on tax/license fee increases. He explained an
example would be the 'payment in lieu of taxes' (PILOT) program.
Rachel Lee, 340 Graceland Drive, stated she was part of ReThink, which was a youth lead
tobacco prevention group. She explained they were working towards tobacco free parks
and were hosting a cigarette butt cleanup on Thursday, June 22nd at 5:00 p.m. in
Menominee Park and invited anyone interested to attend.
Steve Barney, 1335 Summit Avenue, presented copies of the summary for policy makers
from each of the panels from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change from their
most recent assessment report. He explained it was considered the most authoritative
source of information on the subject of climate change. He stated there was a section
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dedicated to information for policy makers in each volume. He explained he believed
the federal and state government had 'dropped the ball' when it came to climate change
which prompted a renewal of a movement to encourage local government to address the
concern.
CONSENT AGENDA
Report of Sills by the Finance Director
Council Member Panske stated within the bills there was a check payable to Panske
Enterprises which was a business her parents own. She explained she was not affiliated
with the business and did not benefit financially from the transaction.
Receipt & Filing of Common Council Minutes from April 25, 2017
Receipt & Filing of Museum Board Minutes from May 4, 2017
Receipt & Filing of Library Board Minutes from May 25, 2017
Receipt of Claims filed with the City's Insurance Company:
A) Paula Rost for alleged damages from a city vehicle
B) Carol Velasco for alleged damages related to a water main
Resolution 17-275 Award Bid to Paul Conway Shields for 5.11 Tactical Series Uniform
Gear for Fire Department
Resolution 17-276 Approve Payment in Lieu of Taxes (PILOT) Agreement with
Oshkosh Housing Authority&Waite Rug housing,LLC for Property
Located at 300 East Custer Avenue
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of the payment in lieu of taxes (PILOT)
agreement. She stated she had questions from citizens regarding the difference between
a PILOT agreement and a pilot program, such as the program listed in resolution 17-280.
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, explained that the payment in lieu of
taxes (PILOT)was related to a tax exempt non-profit organization committing to funding
a certain amount of money in lieu of their property tax assessment, since they did not pay
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property taxes. He stated the pilot program referenced in resolution 17-280 referred to a
'first test case' type of pilot, not the acronym described in resolution 17-276.
Council Member Palmeri stated she believed the Housing Authority was one of the few
tax exempt groups that voluntarily made payments. She questioned if that was correct.
Mr. Davis stated he believed there were state statutes in place that governed housing
authorities.
Ms. Lorenson explained there were state statutes in place that allowed housing
authorities to make such payments, and she believed they were encouraged to do so. She
stated many tax exempt groups did not step forward to make payments, although they
were able to do so if they wanted.
Council Member Palmeri stated she believed there may be more non-profits stepping
forward in the future.
Resolution 17-277 Approve Contract with State of Wisconsin Department of Military
Affairs, Division of Emergency Management for Wisconsin
Hazardous Materials Response System Services
Council Member Herman stated he understood the agreement had been in place for a
considerable amount of time. He questioned when a team was called outside of the City
and the department needed to cover the costs of the officers being gone, who was
responsible for that cost.
Tim Franz, Fire Chief, stated the City was reimbursed by the state. He explained the first
route was to bill the responsible party, however, in the event there was not a responsible
party directly associated with a spill, the state had an established fund to cover such costs.
Council Member Herman stated he wanted citizens to be aware that in some of the
agreements that went before Council, the taxpayers of the City were not responsible for
the costs. He questioned if there was a procedure in place to fill the spots of officers
traveling outside of the area for an extended period of time.
Chief Franz stated yes.
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Council Member Herman questioned if the equipment the officers brought outside the
area was separate from the equipment that would be used in the event of a spill within
the City.
Chief Franz stated that was correct. He explained the equipment was funded through
the state's program and allowed for a better response time.
Council Member Herman questioned approximately how many calls a year did the unit
respond to.
Chief Franz stated the number had significantly decreased over the past few years; he
explained the average was less than 6 calls a year.
Council Member Herman stated he understood the City utilized a number of mutual aid
agreements, for example, the police department utilized Green Say's bomb squad.
Resolution 17-278 Amend Resolution No. 17-232 Initial Resolution for Special
Assessments — Contract No. 17-22 Sawdust District Improvements
Resolution17-279 Award Sid for Public Works Contract No. 17-12 to Dorner, Inc. for
Miscellaneous Utility Improvements ($1,978,062.15)
Resolution 17-280 Approve Pilot Program Lead Service Line Replacement Policy
Resolution 17-281 Approve Safe Drinking Water Loan Program Financial Assistance
Agreement with the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources for
Project No. 4874-10
Resolution 17-282 Approve Change Order No. 1 for Public Works Contract No. 16-09
Water Main Relay & Installation (-$32,018.57)
Resolution 17-283 Approve Change Order No. 1 for Public Works Contract No. 16-04
Paving, Sidewalk Driveway & Utilities / First Local Street Concrete
Program (Northside Area) (-$40,539.42)
Resolution 17-284 Approve Professional Service Agreement with AECOM for South
Shore Morgan District Riverwalk ($236,150.00)
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Resolution 17-285 Approve Specific Implementation Plan for New Parking Lot; 227
West Linwood Avenue Oaklawn Elementary School (Plan
Commission Recommends Approval)
Resolution 17-286 Approve Sale of Fermented Malt Beverages at Leach Amphitheater
by Parks Department Staff
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of the resolution.
Ray Maurer, Parks Director, explained when the City had taken over the operations of
the Leach Amphitheater there had been an agreement for collaboration between the parks
department and the Convention and Visitors Bureau (CVS) to allow the parks
department to sell fermented beverages at City sponsored events. He stated with the
change in leadership at the CVS the timing was right for the parks department to begin
selling fermented beverages at City sponsored Leach events again. He explained City
staff would be responsible for the sales, similar to what takes place at the golf course and
Reetz concessions, and a City staff member will take the responsible beverage course.
Resolution 17-287 Approve an Amendment to Special Event—Oshkosh Corporation to
utilize City streets for their 1001h Anniversary Parade /July 14 & 15,
2017
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of the amendment to Oshkosh
Corporation's event. She questioned if the request was for a complete closure of 23rd
Avenue for two days.
Kathy Snell, Special Events Coordinator, explained she had included a map showing the
closure would run from Minnesota Street to Oregon Street. She stated there were two
local businesses located in that stretch of road that the Oshkosh Corporation planned to
contact and discuss the closure, in addition to contacting the business owners on
Minnesota and Montana Streets who would be affected although still have access in/out
based on the layout of the roads.
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Resolution 17-288 Approve Appointments to the following Boards & Commissions:
BID Board, Housing Authority, Grand Opera House Advisory
Board, Sustainability Advisory Board & Oshkosh Public Museum
Board
Resolution 17-289 Approve Special Class "B" Licenses, Operator & Taxicab Licenses
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA (Pech; second, Panske)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
ACTION TAKEN ON ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
Ordinance 17-290 Modify Parking Regulations on 171h Avenue
MOTION: ADOPT (Allison-Aasby; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Resolution 17-291 Approve Annual City Licenses (Renewals)
MOTION: ADOPT (Herman; second, Pech)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Resolution 17-292 Authorize Staff to complete & file a Water Rate Increase application
with the Public Service Commission of Wisconsin
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Allison-Aasby)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Council Member Pech stated during the last election there had been considerable
discussion regarding increases in utility fees. He explained the City needed to continue
to make investments in the infrastructure. He asked for an explanation of the background
behind the cost increases.
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Council Member Allison-Aasby stated it appeared in the material that there would be a
15% increase in fees, although that was not the case. She asked for an explanation of the
percentage.
Trena Larson, Director of Finance, explained the 15% was an estimate based on cash flow
and capital projections that were presented in the CIP workshop in 2016. She stated in
the prior rate increase, the estimate had been a 15% increase that resulted in an 8% rate
increase. She explained it was important to understand although the estimate may be
15%, it was not the final number. She stated Council would only be able to approve an
analyzed rate that was approved by the Public Service Commission of Wisconsin. She
stated in 2017 the citizens would not receive a water rate increase; the process began in
2017 and would take over 6 months to go through a comprehensive review. She
explained the intent was to not begin a rate increase until January 1, 2018. She stated
aging infrastructure was a driver of the proposed rate increase. She explained in the past,
the cost of utilities had not kept up with the demand put on the infrastructure. She stated
in order to ensure a quality and reliable product the City needed to maintain the
infrastructure. She explained there were two capital improvement projects that were
driving utility rates; the Marion Road water tower, which was an estimated $4 million
investment for water utilities, and the clear well replacement program. She explained the
clear well replacement program was a capital project planned for 2018, which was
estimated to cost approximately $10 million for just construction costs. She stated they
were two large projects that had an impact on water utility as it relied on debt. She
explained debt was the final component of the rate increase; the City needed to ensure
that they were able to maintain and meet their debt service covenants. She stated it was
important to establish the necessary rates to meet the debt service coverage as it was a
covenant requirement within the City's bond. She explained the City preferred to only
complete a rate increase every two years due to the amount of time and analysis that was
required to go through the process.
Council Member Allison-Aasby asked for an explanation of the consequences that would
result if the City did not maintain proper debt service coverage to satisfy the covenants.
Ms. Larson stated it would have a significant negative impact on the City and would
result in a downgrade of the Moody's rating, which was used to receive a lower rate for
the debt service. She explained it was critical that debt service coverage be maintained.
She stated the City went through a process each year to ensure that they were meeting
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the debt service coverage; she explained with the 2016 utility rates they did not have
sufficient debt service coverage, and they were required to complete a certification with
the 2018 rates to prove that the City would have the correct rate structure and cash flow
to meet the covenants.
Council Member Pech stated part of the reason the City was replacing the water tower
was to maintain water pressure, which allowed the fire department to provide fire
protection within the City. He explained maintaining proper infrastructure provided
drinking water to the City and maintained public safety.
Ms. Larson stated the public safety component was imperative and the water protection
component provided the City with a rating for the fire department which impacted the
homeowners and their insurance requirements. She explained when City staff completed
a 10 year analysis, they looked at cash, debt and capital operations. She stated the most
recent analysis showed the City would hit a stabilized period in the future reflecting in a
stabilized rate for utility customers.
Council Member Pech stated the City was making investments now for items that should
have previously been invested in, and were not due to previous Councils not wanting to
make the 'hard decision' to pay for items necessary for the good of the public. He
questioned if the public had access to the cash flow analysis and other related projections.
Mr. Rohloff explained the City submitted its findings to the Public Service Commission
of Wisconsin, who then put the data on its website. He stated an individual would also
be able to contact the finance department to receive a copy.
Council Member Pech explained there was documentation to validate and prove the need
for the rate increase.
Council Member Herman questioned if the estimated 15% was over a ten year period or
if the rate was estimated to increase by 15% every two years. He stated he understood it
was likely the final increase would come in under 15%; he was using the figure as an
example to understand the structure. He questioned if once the application was
approved, if the City would need to adhere to the 15%.
Ms. Larson stated once the Public Service Commission approved a rate, it would not
come back before Council for approval. She stated the estimated 15% referred to the rate
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increase beginning January 1, 2018, not 15% moving concurrently every two years. She
explained she did not anticipate the Public Service Commission to approve a 15% rate
increase. She stated the estimate was provided to Council for information and
anticipated the rate that was approved would be less than that.
Council Member Herman stated he hoped that as the process moved forward, City staff
would be able to provide citizens an explanation of the reason behind the rates as well as
how the rates compared to other municipalities. He explained he understood that there
were other communities that had a much higher water rate. He stated aside from debt
the funds covered other items such as the City's bond and the water tower. He explained
he understood the frustration as citizens were making efforts towards water conservation
and rates still would increase. He stated the City needed to maintain debt service
coverage and to continue to improve infrastructure, despite usage going down. He
explained even if usage decreased, the same amount of infrastructure was necessary to
support the City.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated the DNR had wanted the clear water well project
completed several years ago and eventually the City would be forced to take action.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if the City would be discontinuing the rain barrel
credit program.
Mr. Rabe explained the program was still in place and was not being discontinued.
Mr. Rohloff stated it was a good reminder to citizens that such programs existed.
Resolution 17-293 Amend 2017 Capital Improvement Program — Field Operation
Facility landscaping ($15,000.00)
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, Krause)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Mayor Cummings stated the work that had been completed so far looked great.
Council Member Herman asked for an explanation of the funding source for the
landscaping.
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Mr. Rabe explained that City staff had shifted money from the major equipment vehicle
fund, from vehicles that had come in under budget, over to property improvements to be
able to pay for additional landscaping that was required per the City's zoning code.
Resolution 17-294 Approve Development Agreement with 50 W 6th Street LLC for
Redevelopment of the former Granary Restaurant at 50 West 6th
Avenue; Construction of a new Parking Lot & Rehabilitation of an
existing parking lot
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (4) Allison-Aasby, Herman, Pech, Mayor Cummings
Noes (3) Palmeri, Panske, Krause
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, stated the development agreement
and the improvements within the right of way were related.
Tim Hess, Invista Analytics, stated he was a professional statistician working with the
developers on the Granary project. He presented an analysis summary demonstrating
the reason why TIF was appropriate for the project. He explained even with TIF support
the developers would still receive a return under 5%. He stated they still wanted to
pursue the project as they were local investors from the City who wanted to see Oshkosh
thrive. He explained they had received support from the community and City staff who
wanted to see the project succeed and the historic building preserved. He stated the
agreement included a 10 year lookback clause which offered the City protection in the
event of a significant market change. He thanked Council for their support.
Mr. Davis explained the TIF agreement contained the cost of the public improvements
that translated into the right of way development, which the developers were paying up
front as part of the project. He stated the developer would pay most of the total cost,
approximately $121,000 directly to the contractor, however there were some items the
City would install such as street lights, signage and paving. He explained the City would
bill the developer for the cost of their work. He stated the City had included a look back
clause in the event there was a sale within 10 years.
Council Member Herman questioned if there was a sale, would the City be able to
discontinue the TIF.
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Mr. Davis stated it would depend on the price of the sale; if it resulted in over a 15%
return then the TIF would be terminated.
Council Member Herman stated City staff actively monitored TIFs. He explained the
City would not wait 10 years prior to reviewing the performance of the TIF.
Mr. Davis explained Council received reports on TIF within the annual budget review
and midway through the year. He explained the reports included information on how
many businesses and employees had been created with the TIF districts. He stated recent
TIFs had shifted the risk onto the developer and required them to front the upfront cost
of public improvements.
Mayor Cummings stated the project would eliminate another blighted property in the
City.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated it was possible that a different developer may
purchase the property in the future without TIF funding, however, past experience had
shown that oftentimes a building vacant for a long time resulted in the City acquiring the
property and considerable legal work in the hopes that it would be purchased. She
thanked Mr. Hess for the presentation. She explained she had met with Chet Weisenberg
and Mr. Hess to discuss how important it was for the public and for Council to
understand the dynamics of the role of TIFs. She stated when the TIF policy had been
reviewed and agreed upon by Council, it had gone from 75%with a 20 year expiration to
90% with a 27 year maximum. She explained it was difficult for the public and Council
to visualize committing to a TIF for nearly three decades. She stated while Council would
prefer developers to not have to rely on TIF, she understood it was oftentimes a necessity
in a progressing community. She explained she was struggling with the 90% over 27
years, although the project matched current TIF policy. She stated going forward she
would prefer to see the maximum TIF expiration not be used as the norm. She explained
compared to the alternatives, she liked that the investors were local and had tenants
ready to sign lease agreements. She stated the presentation did an excellent job
explaining the reason behind the TIF request.
Council Member Pech thanked Mr. Hess for his presentation and Chet Weisenberg for
keeping Council informed. He explained he looked forward to the project being
completed.
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Council Member Palmeri stated it was a challenging decision as the property had
character and she appreciated the goals of the project. She explained the current TIF
policy of 90% allowance up to 27 years was something the City could do; not something
that would be granted with each TIF application. She stated there were municipalities
that limited the duration to 10 or 15 years. She explained she had hoped that the
development agreement would have been revised to reflect a request for less money and
a shorter term, when in fact there had been calculations that came back higher. She asked
for an explanation of how the public purpose or benefit outweighed the extended costs
in the life of the TIF.
Mr. Davis stated there was benefit in blight elimination and he believed the project would
be a catalyst for the south shore, which would have significant economic impact. He
explained the project also had value in historic preservation. He stated the developers
were also making public improvements around the property that would benefit the City
with the extension of the river walk as well as public parking. He explained the
developers would pay for the public improvements up front therefore it would not be a
general obligation debt. He stated the developers would need to perform to earn the
'pay-go', therefore the City was at a lower risk than they had been with past TIFs.
Mr. Rohloff explained there was significantly less risk to the City with the way the TIF
was structured.
Mayor Cummings stated many historical buildings had been destroyed. He explained
he believed a progressive City was one who preserved its past. He stated preservation
was a major component to economic development. He explained he believed the project
was part of putting the City on a progressive, forward path.
Council Member Allison-Aasby questioned what the total cost of the City's infrastructure
that was being fronted by the developer.
Mr. Davis stated it was $121,951. He explained part would be completed by the
developer's contractors and the other part by City crews who would then be reimbursed.
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of how some of the analysis had
changed from the initial application until present.
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Todd Taves, Senior Municipal Advisor, Ehlers, explained there had been an error in the
project plan that had understated the time required to reach the present value by 4 years.
Council Member Palmeri asked what the fiscal difference was.
Mr. Taves explained it went from approximately $660,000 to a little over $800,000. He
stated Ehlers was in agreement with the developers numbers and it was an accurate
calculation. He stated the actual numbers would be based on the payments that were
made to reach the present value.
Resolution 17-295 Approve Development & Maintenance Agreement & Waiver of
Special Assessment Proceedings for the Granary Redevelopment
project for construction within rights-of-way on West 5th Avenue,
West 6th Avenue & Nebraska Street
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Council Member Herman asked for an explanation of the resolution.
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, stated it was separate from the TIF
agreement and related to improvements in the right of way. He explained the developer
was responsible for the costs, and regardless of how Council felt about the project, the
resolution would transfer the risk from the City to the developer.
Mr. Rohloff explained anytime the City put in public improvements associated with a
project, they wanted to make sure the developer was held responsible and features such
as the waiver of special assessments were included to make sure that happened. He
stated the resolution contained the necessary protections to the City on the public
improvement side.
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Resolution 17-296 Resolution determining to issue $[5,440,000] aggregate principal
amount of General Obligation Corporate Purpose Bonds, Series
2017A, of the City of Oshkosh, Winnebago County, Wisconsin, in
such amount, providing details, prescribing the form of bond,
awarding the bonds to the best bidder & levying taxes
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Council Member Pech questioned if the bond issues were for projects that were approved
in the 2017 capital improvement plan.
Todd Taves, Senior Municipal Advisor, Ehlers, stated that was correct.
Council Member Pech stated it was for expenditures the Council had already approved.
He questioned if the general obligation bonds and notes fell within the $11.4 million cap.
Mr. Taves stated yes.
Council Member Pech stated the City was adhering to their debt management structure.
He asked for an explanation of the sale.
Mr. Taves explained the strategy that the City had been implementing had been a positive
factor in terms of the conversations Ehlers had with Moodys. He stated the 2017A bond
would fund the street improvements and park improvements and the winning bid was
from Morgan Stanley with a true interest rate of 2.66% and had resulted in a nearly
$70,000 reduction from bid premium, unused discounts and the cost of issuance.
Council Member Pech asked for an explanation of a bid premium.
Mr. Taves explained a bid premium occurred when the purchaser was paying a greater
amount than the face value of the bond, which allowed them to reoffer the bonds in the
secondary market with a higher interest rate. He stated the interest rate would be higher
than market in exchange for a cash payment. He explained part of the cash payment
would be used to reduce the issue size and part would be deposited to the debt service
fund to offset portions of the next three years interest payments. He stated from the City's
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perspective the bid premium was not a negative component as it reduced the amount of
bonds issued and allowed for cash to be available to offset interest payments.
Resolution 17-297 Resolution determining to issue $[5,830,000] aggregate principal
amount of General Obligation Promissory Notes, Series 20175,of the
City of Oshkosh, Winnebago County, Wisconsin, in such amount,
providing details, prescribing the form of note, awarding the notes
to the best bidder & levying taxes
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Mr. Taves explained the winning bidder had been Hutchinson Shockey Earley &
Company with a true interest rate at 1.892%and an issuance that was reduced by$260,000
due to $193,000 in projects being removed by City staff therefore that total no longer
required debt financing. He stated the bid premium, cost of issuance and unused
discount also contributed to a decrease to the cost of financing of$423,000.
Resolution 17-298 Resolution providing for the issuance & sale of & $[8,880,000]
aggregate principal amount of Water System Revenue Bonds,
Series 2017C, of the City of Oshkosh,Winnebago County,Wisconsin,
providing details, prescribing the form of bond, awarding said
revenue bonds to the best bidder & providing for the payment of
said revenue bonds & other details and covenants with respect
thereto
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Mr. Taves explained the winning bidder had been Morgan Stanley with a true interest
rate of 2.859% and the issuance size had been reduced by $690,000 as there had been a
bid premium and no requirement to deposit to the debt service fund therefore the entirety
of the premium had been used to reduce the issuance size. He explained the cost of
financing would be $765,000 less than the presale estimate.
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COUNCIL DISCUSSION, DIRECTION TO CITY MANAGER &FUTURE AGENDA
ITEMS
Mr. Rohloff stated Council Member Herman had acted on an item that each Council
Member had received from the League of Municipalities in terms of providing an opinion
in terms of personal property tax, which Council had already taken a stance on. He
explained although Council would not be able to hold a meeting with legislators until
after the legislative session ended, he believed it was important to respond to the email
and voice an opinion. He stated it was significant to share what the impact to the City
would be as it had a fiscal impact of nearly$1.4 million. He encouraged all of the Council
Members to respond.
Mayor Cummings stated he had responded to the question on personal property tax and
historic tax credits.
Council Member Herman stated it was his understanding that the state was looking at a
three year phase-in and were not looking at increasing the rate, it would remain the same.
He explained he believed the state needed to put in some step increases.
Mr. Rohloff stated he had conversations with some of his colleagues who had
recommended when Council met with legislators to provide them with legislative
takeaways. He explained it had an impact individually and collectively. He stated 'dark
store' was another concern that needed to be addressed with legislators.
Mayor Cummings stated he and Finance Director Larson were at a forum a week ago
discussing new funding sources for cities and villages due to recent activities in Madison.
Mr. Rohloff stated there would be a TIF Workshop on Tuesday, June 201h following the
plan commission meeting at City Hall in room 404.
Council Member Herman explained he believed a'one size fits all' approach did not work
for all development agreements and it would be beneficial to review different TIF policy
options. He stated there had been changes made in the last year to better protect the City
and additional changes would likely be coming before Council in the future.
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, explained during the workshop City
staff intended to cover the basics of TIF, how the process worked in Oshkosh and
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potential policy decisions. He stated if Council wished to add any other topics to contact
him.
Council Member Palmeri stated she had provided Mr. Davis with a list of items she
would like addressed.
Mr. Davis stated blight had been included on the list.
Council Member Palmeri explained she would also like to discuss TIF pre-applications
that never came before Council.
Mr. Davis stated there were applications that City staff had denied.
Council Member Palmeri stated she would also like to discuss how to prioritize TIF
applications and the criteria scoring.
Mayor Cummings recommended that Mr. Davis reach out to members of the
Redevelopment Authority in regards to blight elimination as it pertained to
neighborhoods.
Council Member Herman questioned if it made sense to invite the joint review members
to attend.
Mr. Rohloff explained there was a conflict with the County Board meeting therefore Mark
Harris would not be able to attend. He explained he would be late to the workshop as he
would be present at the board meeting to represent the City on the formal waiver of the
unpaid taxes on the former Buckstaff property. He stated he would agree to invite the
joint review representatives.
Council Member Allison-Aasby questioned if an invitation had been extended to Jason
White from GO-EDC.
Mr. Davis stated he had and he would speak about economic development and how
Oshkosh fit in the 'economic development ecosystem'.
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Council Member Herman suggested inviting the economic development coordinator for
the Chamber of Commerce. He stated he believed any local partners that would be
impacted by TIF should be invited.
Council Member Allison-Aasby requested Mr. Davis gather information for the
workshop on what other communities in the Midwest were doing in regards to TIF. She
explained she believed it was Council's responsibility to bring ideas to the workshop.
She stated if Council did not like a policy it was their obligation to change it and provide
City staff direction.
Mr. Rohloff requested Council to reach out with any additional suggestions.
Mayor Cummings questioned if there would be a time limit for the workshop.
Mr. Rohloff stated he estimated the workshop would last an hour and a half to two hours.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she would encourage the plan commission
meeting to run effectively to allow the workshop to begin on time.
Council Member Herman questioned if it would make sense to review the TIF policies of
neighboring municipalities who were in competition for businesses within the Fox River
Valley.
Mr. Rohloff stated in comparison, the TIF policy in Oshkosh was more sophisticated than
other municipalities. He explained the City would be able to learn from other
municipalities best practices.
Council Member Palmeri explained she would like to discuss legal challenges that were
occurring in the Eau Clair area related to blight elimination and TIF policy.
Ms. Lorenson stated she had forwarded the emails to be included in the workshop
discussion.
Mayor Cummings questioned if there would be adequate time for the content of the
workshop.
Mr. Rohloff stated they would fit it in.
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CITIZEN STATEMENTS TO COUNCIL
There were no citizen statements to Council.
CO UNCIL MEMBER ANNO UNCEMENTS & STATEMENTS
There were no Council Member announcements or statements.
CITY MANAGER ANNO UNCEMENT AND STATEMENT
Mr. Rohloff stated the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation had awarded a
$250,000 grant to the City for public improvements associated with the arena project. He
explained the project was moving forward and the framing was up. He stated there was
a name and logo coming soon. He explained there had been some revisions to the citizen
survey and he would provide Council with an overview at the following Council
meeting.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if there was a revised version compared to what
they had previously received.
Mr. Rohloff stated yes; City staff had found some areas that required cleanup.
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MOTION: THE COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO CLOSED SESSION
PURSUANT TO SECTION 19.85(1)(E) OF THE WISCONSIN STATE
STATUTES TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBLE ACQUISITION OF
PROPERTY AT AND/OR ADJACENT TO THE FORMER KIENAST
&PAULUS QUARRIES WITHIN THE CITY OF OSHKOSH WHERE
COMPETITIVE & BARGAINING REASONS REQUIRE A CLOSED
SESSION. (Panske; second, Pech)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Allison-Aasby, Herman, Panske, Krause, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
MOTION: ADJOURN (Allison-Aasby; second, Panske)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 8:02 p.m.
ANGELA J. JOECKEL
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
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