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P ROCEEDINGS OF THE C OMMON C OUNCIL
C ITY OF O SHKOSH, W ISCONSIN
D ECEMBER 13, 2016
REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday, December 13, 2016, at 6:00 p.m. in Council
Chambers, City Hall
Mayor Cummings presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Lori Palmeri, Steven Herman, Deb Allison-Aasby,
Caroline Panske, Benjamin Stepanek, Tom Pech Jr., and Mayor Steve Cummings
ALSO PRESENT: Mark Rohloff, City Manager; Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk; Lynn
Lorenson, City Attorney; and James Rabe, Director of Public Works
Council Member Palmeri read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Evelyn Oehler and Seth Hansen from Washington
Elementary School.
I NTRODUCTION OF C ITY S TAFF
Mr. Rabe introduced Ryan Lemke, Water Distribution Center Assistant Manager. He
explained Mr. Lemke had previously worked for the City of Appleton public works
department and resided in Greenville with his family.
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P UBLIC H EARING
Ordinance 16-545 Repeal & Recreate Chapter 30 Zoning Ordinance & Zoning Map
Effective January 1, 2017 (This Update Replaces the Existing Zoning
Ordinance & Map Adopted in 1997)
MOTION: ADOPT AND INCORPORATE THE TEXT AND MAP
AMENDMENTS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLAN
COMMISSION AND IDENTIFIED AS EXHIBITS A AND B TO THE
ORDINANCE (Pech; second, Panske)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Shirley Mattox, 1313 Jackson Street, stated she was part of the Jackson Street historic drive
neighborhood association. She explained she had previously voiced concerns and
presented a petition regarding the University Transition Overlay district map and plan.
She stated the neighborhood association hoped to revitalize the neighborhood and return
as many homes as possible to owner occupied. She explained she believed diversity in a
neighborhood was important. She stated the homes in the neighborhood had historical
significance. She requested Council approve map number 9 and commended the
Planning department for drafting several different options that would preserve the
historical integrity of the neighborhood.
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, stated the Plan commission had
reviewed the proposed ordinance and made changes to allow for the historic Jackson
Street neighborhood to remain outside of the UTO district. He explained they also
revised the language of the ordinance to allow for Council to maintain control over
conditional use permits.
Council Member Pech thanked all of the individuals involved in the process.
Mayor Cummings stated it was positive to see a neighborhood association involved in
determining the future of their neighborhood.
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C ITIZEN S TATEMENTS TO C OUNCIL
Shirley Mattox, 1313 Jackson Street, explained she had attended a hearing for the neo-
classical historic district in Madison at the Wisconsin Historical Society. She stated the
Director of the Wisconsin Historic Preservation Department, Jim Draeger,
acknowledged the progress the City of Oshkosh had made in preserving the City’s
historic buildings. She explained Mr. Draeger commended Mayor Cummings for being
one of the few mayors in the state who promoted historic preservation projects. She
stated preserving the historic buildings through redevelopment and reuse gave them a
second economic life. She explained many Oshkosh residents treasure the City’s historic
buildings and the stories that have enriched their lives. She stated she appreciated how
proactive the City had been.
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Jim Meyer, 150 W. 22 Avenue, thanked Council for their continued support of the Senior
Center. He stated there were over 4,000 members who were grateful for the support.
Kathy O’Rourke, 455 Marion Road Apartment 207, stated she moved to Oshkosh on
October 31, 2016. She explained she enjoyed the riverwalk but was concerned that there
were no garbage cans anywhere along the riverwalk. She stated she and a neighbor spent
two hours carrying a garbage can and picked up garbage along the riverwalk. She
explained she understood some pieces of garbage such as bait containers came from
people fishing on the river but other pieces came from people walking the path. She
stated she would like to suggest that individuals who were required to complete
community service participate in cleaning it up on a weekly basis. She explained there
were a number of dogs that resided in the apartments along the riverwalk and the owners
were not cleaning up after the dogs.
Mayor Cummings stated they would direct City staff to discuss both of the issues.
Mr. Rohloff stated he would reach out to Ray Maurer, Parks Director.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she had previously met Ms. O’Rourke and had
encouraged her to attend the Council meeting. She thanked Ms. O’Rourke for attending.
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C ONSENT A GENDA
Report of Bills by the Finance Director
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Receipt & Filing of Common Council Minutes from October 11, 25 & November 9, 2016
Receipt & Filing of Museum Board Minutes from November 3, 2016
Receipt of Claim filed with City’s Insurance Company
A) Anna Cannizzo for alleged damage to her vehicle from a dumpster
B) Gerald Hawley for alleged injuries resulting from a bus incident
Resolution 16-546 Award Bid to Sure Fire Inc. for Furnace Replacements for Oshkosh
Senior Center South ($48,300.00)
Resolution 16-547 Award Bid to FabTech Waste Water Solutions, LLC for Primary
Clarifiers Repair & Rehabilitation for Wastewater Treatment Plant
($295,000.00)
Resolution 16-548 Approve Software Maintenance Agreement for 2017 with Harris
Enterprise Resource Planning & Software Maintenance Agreement
2017-2019 with Environmental Systems Research Institute, Inc. for IT
Division ($84,255.32)
Resolution 16-549 Approve Granting Privilege in Street & Easements to Wisconsin
Public Service for Installation of Soil Vapor Monitoring Wells at 303
Ceape Avenue/Court Street South of Ceape Avenue & Adjacent City
Parking Lot/11 Broad Street (Plan Commission Recommends
Approval)
Resolution 16-550 Approve Determination of Necessity to Acquire Property at 716
South Main Street Authorize Redevelopment Authority to Acquire
South Main Street ($60,000.00) (Redevelopment Authority
Recommends Approval)
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Resolution 16-551 Approve Determination of Necessity to Acquire Property at 710
South Main Street Authorize Redevelopment Authority to Acquire
710 South Main Street ($199,000.00) (Redevelopment Authority
Recommends Approval)
Council Member Palmeri requested 16-550 and 16-551 be removed from the Consent
Agenda for separate consideration.
Resolution 16-552 Approve Environmental Service Agreement with AECOM for Site
Redevelopment at Buckstaff Property ($143,500.00)
Resolution 16-553 Approve Renewal of Agreement for Bus Service with the University
of Wisconsin Oshkosh
Resolution 16-554 Approve Agreement with Houck Transit Advertising for Bus
Advertising Services for GO Transit (2017: +$24,000, 2018: +$27,000,
2019: +$27,000)
Resolution 16-555 Approve Agreement with Kobussen Buses LTD for IntercityBus
Services for GO Transit (2017: $152,000, 2018: $155,040, 2019:
$158,141)
Resolution 16-556 Approve Initial Resolution for Special Assessments – Contract
No. 17-17 / Hemlock Court & Fraser Drive-Concrete Paving
Resolution 16-557 Approve Engineering Services Agreement with AECOM Technical
Services, Inc. for 2017 Knapp Street Quarries & Timmerman Landfill
Operations & Maintenance Support ($90,350.00)
Resolution 16-558 Approve Engineering Services Agreement with AECOM Technical
Services, Inc. for Environmental Support for 2017 Capital
Improvement Projects ($175,000.00)
Resolution 16-559 Approve Engineering Services Agreement with Strand Associates,
Inc. for Sawyer Creek Storm Water Management Plan Update
($182,500.00)
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Resolution 16-560 Approve Extended Contract with the State of Wisconsin Department
of Military Affairs Division of Emergency Management for
Statewide Structural Collapse Team Members
Resolution 16-561 Approve Ambulance Rates
Resolution 16-562 Approve 2017 Fee Schedule for Lakeshore Municipal Golf Course,
Pollock Community Water Park & Park Facilities (Advisory Parks
Board Recommends Approval)
Council Member Herman stated the usage fees for the baseball and softball diamonds
would be charged when there were tournaments not for daily use during practices. He
explained there had been discussion during the Parks Board meeting regarding the
various organizations that utilize the fields for tournaments and it was decided that
charging a fee was appropriate.
Resolution 16-563 Approve Employee Handbook Updates
Resolution 16-564 Disallowance of Claim by Amy Prickett
Resolution 16-565 Approve Combination “Class B” License, Special Class “B” Licenses,
Operator Licenses & Secondhand Dealer Licenses
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING RESOLUTIONS 16-550
AND 16-551 (Allison-Aasby; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Resolution 16-550 Approve Determination of Necessity to Acquire Property at 716
South Main Street Authorize Redevelopment Authority to Acquire
South Main Street ($60,000.00) (Redevelopment Authority
Recommends Approval)
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
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Resolution 16-551 Approve Determination of Necessity to Acquire Property at 710
South Main Street Authorize Redevelopment Authority to Acquire
710 South Main Street ($199,000.00) (Redevelopment Authority
Recommends Approval)
MOTION: ADOPT (Allison-Aasby; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Mayor Cummings questioned if Council Member Palmeri would like to discuss 16-550
and 16-551 together.
Council Member Palmeri stated yes. She questioned if the buildings were joined by a
firewall.
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, stated yes.
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of why the City had not completed a
raze order and required the owner to take care of the associated cost if the repairs were
significant. She stated community members had brought the question to her. She
questioned whether the City would be responsible for environmental remediation.
Mr. Davis stated the entirety of the south shore was part of a redevelopment area and the
properties had been designated as blighted. He explained within the redevelopment area
when properties would become available by a willing seller the City, through the
Redevelopment Authority, would have the opportunity to purchase blighted properties
for removal. He stated there was a willing seller for the properties and the terms would
allow the City to raze them in 2017. He explained the raze order would require additional
time and there was a potential it would cost more than purchasing the properties.
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of the average timeframe for a raze
order.
Mr. Davis stated if the parties involved were agreeable to the raze order it could take a
year, however, if they were not agreeable it could take several years. He explained the
raze process typically involved obtaining a court order and resulted in relocation issues.
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He stated because there was a willing seller there would not be any relocation concerns.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if there was a projection on costs for any
environmental remediation of the properties.
Mr. Davis stated he believed there would be some amount of remediation required. He
explained he believed the property had formerly been a garage. He stated it was difficult
to complete any project along the riverfront without being required to perform
remediation. He explained City staff would make a decision regarding remediation once
there was a redevelopment plan in place. He stated the ideal way to complete
remediation would be to cap the site and the worst-case scenario City staff would be
required to remove the contaminated soil.
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of how the $60,000 price was
calculated.
Mr. Davis stated City staff would evaluate the property using the assessed value. He
explained if it was a contentious process the City would pay for a second appraisal. He
stated because the seller was willing the City was able to save money while executing a
fair sale.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if there was a redevelopment plan for the
properties.
Mr. Davis stated there was a plan for the entirety of the riverfront and the properties were
significant to the central city investment strategy.
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of the City’s purchase of the business
affiliated with the property.
Mr. Davis explained if the business had not been sold along with the property the City
would have been responsible for relocating the business. He stated relocation costs
would have been more expensive than purchasing the business. He explained the cost of
the business was included in the purchase price of the property.
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Council Member Herman stated the purchase of the properties were significant in the
redevelopment of the area. He explained the City’s plan aligned with the goals of the
Greater Oshkosh Economic Development Corp.
Mr. Davis stated this was one of many parcels that had been purchased to make the south
shore redevelopment dream a reality.
Council Member Herman stated the assessed value of 710 South Main Street was
approximately $80,000 and the owner’s had asked $199,000. He questioned if this was
due to the existing business on the property.
Mr. Davis explained that the additional funds were due to the purchase of the business
as an alternative to the City paying for relocation.
Mayor Cummings stated he believed the layout of the properties had become jumbled
after 100 years plus of repurposing the buildings.
Council Member Panske questioned how much closing costs would be.
Mr. Davis stated they would total several thousand dollars but that he did not have an
exact total.
A CTION T AKEN ON O RDINANCES AND R ESOLUTIONS
Ordinance 16-566 Approve Parking Regulation Changes on North Main Street between
New York Avenue & Murdock Avenue
MOTION: ADOPT (Panske; second, Allison-Aasby)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Ordinance 16-567 Cancel December 27, 2016 Council Meeting
MOTION: ADOPT (Panske; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
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Resolution 16-568 Approve Amending Weights & Measures Fee Schedule
MOTION: ADOPT (Herman; second, Pech)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Resolution 16-569 Approve Inter-Agency Agreement to Provide Weights &Measures
Inspection Services to the City of Neenah ($16,000.00)
MOTION: ADOPT (Herman; second, Panske)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Council Member Herman questioned if the $16,000 would cover the cost of the City staff
member.
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, stated yes.
Mayor Cummings questioned if the agreement was for 6 months.
Mr. Davis stated the agreement would end on May 1, 2017.
Resolution 16-570 Approval of Fee Schedule for Sewer Use Charges
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
John Cameron, Municipal Advisor, Ehlers, explained the rate study had been performed
on a cost of service basis and took into consideration the planned capital improvement
projects for 2017. He stated the rate increase for the average single family home was
7.68%.
Council Member Pech stated when the rates were reviewed it was decided to execute a
gradual increase instead of a sudden spike followed by no increase in the subsequent
years.
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Mr. Cameron stated that was correct and the goal was to keep the rate increase as linear
as possible over time.
Council Member Pech stated the rates were based on cost of service.
Mr. Cameron stated that was correct.
Council Member Palmeri questioned why there was a decline in City billable sewer flows.
Mr. Rabe explained over the years there had been a slow and steady decline in water
usage which resulted in a decline in sewer flows.
Mr. Cameron stated this was a trend Ehlers was seeing statewide primarily in the
residential and industrial areas. He explained household appliances were more efficient
and water conservation efforts had increased.
Resolution 16-571 Establish 2017 Storm Water Utility Rate to $160.04 per year
MOTION: ADOPT (Allison-Aasby; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Mr. Cameron explained the rate increase was consistent with the analysis performed by
Ehlers which took into consideration capital improvement projects, the number of
equivalent runoff units, the budgeted 2017 operational expenses and anticipated debt
service payments for 2017.
Resolution 16-572 Approve 2017 Across the Board Market Increase of 2% for Non-
Represented Employees
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
Council Member Herman stated resolution 16-572 along with the other financial
resolutions had been discussed and agreed upon by Council during the budget process.
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C OUNCIL D ISCUSSION, D IRECTION TO C ITY M ANAGER AND F UTURE A GENDA
Mr. Rohloff stated the Bay Shore Drive project contained unique circumstances. He
explained City staff would like advance direction from Council in regards to the unique
project.
Mayor Cummings stated Council would provide City staff with direction and would not
vote on the project at this time.
Steven Gohde, Assistant Director of Public Works, stated there would be unavoidable
impacts to properties during construction due to the narrow right of way and physical
features of the area. He explained trees that were overhanging would need to be trimmed
up to a minimum of 20 feet above the pavement to allow the equipment access. He stated
trees sustained greater damage when they were hooked by equipment versus when they
were professionally trimmed. He explained that the existing sanitary sewer was
approximately 20 feet deep at its deepest point and would need to remain that depth to
continue service for the area. He stated construction that deep required large backhoes
that would require 12 to 14 feet of clear space to be able to dig the trench. He explained
due to the space constraints resulting from DNR codes the construction impact zone
reached far outside the pavement. He stated there were individual trees that could be
accommodated but there were groupings of arbor vitae that were located within the right
of way that the backhoe could not accommodate and they would need to be removed.
He explained if there were laterals underneath an existing tree, that tree would need to
be removed to facilitate the replacement of the lateral. He stated City staff believed a
majority of the laterals to be lead and needed to be replaced. He explained City staff
would try to preserve as many of the trees as they could but there would be many
unavoidable removals. He stated trees with structural deficiency within the public right
of way would be removed. He explained he and the City forester had identified several
trees which fit that criteria. He stated if a tree was partially in the public right of way and
partially on the property City staff would work with the property owner to remove it to
prevent issues during and after construction.
Mr. Rohloff stated City staff wanted Council to be aware of the issues outside of the
question of sidewalk installation. He explained the neighborhood was one of the
narrowest in the City and presented a number of limitations. He stated City staff
understood the value of the trees but wanted to point out that there were some situations
that were unavoidable and would result in tree removal.
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Council Member Palmeri stated it appeared there were a number of trees that had been
planted in the right of way. She questioned how property owners were made aware that
they were planting trees in the right of way.
Mr. Gohde stated part of the confusion was in the past there was no clear definition of
where the right of way was.
Council Member Herman questioned if the sidewalk on the south side continued up to
the former DNR building.
Mr. Gohde stated the sidewalk extended through a majority of that property.
Council Member Herman questioned how much sidewalk would need to be added to
reach Frankfort Street.
Mr. Gohde said it would be approximately 450-500 feet.
Council Member Herman questioned if City staff recommendation was to add sidewalk
up to Frankfort Street but not any further to the east.
Mr. Gohde stated the recommendation of the bicycle and pedestrian committee was to
install sidewalk on the south side from Bowen Street through the multifamily unit at 1001
Bowen Street. He explained City staff did not feel simply ending a sidewalk midblock
and leaving pedestrians unfamiliar with the area stranded was a good solution. He stated
City staff believed alternatives to ending the sidewalk midblock were adding a midblock
crossing or extending the sidewalk to the closest intersection where a crosswalk would
be constructed. He explained after discussion with the police department, transit, and
public works it was determined a midblock crosswalk was not a desired option. He
stated it was not where motorists would expect pedestrians to cross. He explained the
recommendation of City staff would be if Council decides to install sidewalk on the south
side as recommended by the bicycle and pedestrian committee that the sidewalk be
extended to Frankfort Street.
Council Member Herman questioned if the current ordinance stated that neighborhood
streets were 32 feet in width.
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Mr. Gohde stated that 32 feet was the standard width of a street within the City’s zoning
code.
Council Member Herman questioned what the current width of Bay Shore Drive was. He
stated he was aware it narrowed towards the east.
Mr. Gohde stated that west of Frankfort Street the width was approximately 34 feet and
east of Frankfort Street it was 28 feet.
Council Member Herman stated citizens that had contacted him were concerned that the
unique aesthetic of the neighborhood would be disturbed. He explained he supported
updating the infrastructure but believed it would be a disservice to the citizens to add
sidewalk. He stated people who choose to walk could utilize sidewalks on the north side
of the street. He explained he understood that widening the street to 32 would allow
easier access for emergency vehicles. He stated he believed widening the street to 32 feet
with sidewalk on the north side would be sufficient.
Mr. Rohloff stated if Council would like to keep the street at its current width City staff
recommended to limit parking to one side of the street.
Council Member Herman questioned what the current parking situation was.
Mr. Rabe stated there was parking on both sides of the street.
Council Member Herman stated he agreed that if the street width was left at 28 feet
parking would need to be reduced to one side of the street.
Mr. Rohloff stated City staff was prepared to take direction from Council and begin the
design process. He explained they would take feedback from the neighborhood into
consideration.
Council Member Palmeri stated that all neighborhoods were unique and have history.
She questioned if the driveway on the east side of Bay Shore Drive would be able to be
modified if the street width remained 28 feet.
Mr. Gohde stated it would not prohibit the modification.
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Council Member Stepanek questioned if there would be potential for the older trees to be
damaged during construction despite workaround efforts.
Bill Sturm, Landscape Operations Manager, stated a majority of the trees that had been
identified for removal were already in poor condition and it would not be worthwhile to
avoid them. He explained there could be an impact to some of the root systems but City
staff did not expect the impact to be significant.
Council Member Panske stated she served as the Council appointed member of the
bicycle and pedestrian committee. She explained many neighborhood residents had
attended the previous committee meeting and their input had been taken into
consideration. She stated she appreciated City staff’s recommendation regarding the
extension of the sidewalk and looked forward to hearing feedback from residents
regarding the recommendation. She explained she would like to see the street width
remain 28 feet.
Mr. Rohloff stated City staff was prepared to answer questions from the residents.
Brad Lasky, 1319 Bay Shore Drive, thanked City staff and Council for their time and
addressing neighborhood concerns. He explained he was in support of the project due
to the age of the current infrastructure. He stated he understood the recommendation of
the sidewalk continuing on to Bowen Street. He explained he had concerns about his
driveway as he had 25 feet from the street to his garage. He stated he would like the
street width to remain the same and for parking to be changed accordingly. He explained
safety and speed control were his primary concerns. He stated he had four young
children and lived on the curve where drivers would increase their speed. He explained
he was concerned that the design would impact how his driveway functioned. He stated
he believed leaving the existing street width and continuing sidewalk to Frankfort Street
would result in a safe and beautiful street. He explained he was concerned of the
potential costs as the project was large and the existing infrastructure was old. He stated
he had enjoyed engaging with his neighbors and City staff.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if Mr. Lasky had been made aware of the proposed
change to shift the sidewalk which would allow him to maintain 18 feet of access.
Mr. Lasky stated he understood how that looked on paper but was concerned how it
would function and impede his driveway.
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Council Member Palmeri questioned if his vehicle was longer than 18 feet.
Mr. Lasky stated it was not longer than 18 feet.
Mr. Rohloff stated if Council chose the width of the street to remain 28 feet that would
include the portion of the street up to Frankfort Street.
Mr. Rabe stated it would include the distance between Frankfort Street and Lake Street.
He explained he believed City staff would recommend a street width of 32 feet from
Bowen Street to Frankfort Street.
Council Member Herman questioned if there were additional streets in the area
scheduled for future CIP projects.
Mr. Rabe stated Lake Street would be included in the CIP for 2017 with the Bay Shore
Drive project.
Council Member Herman questioned how Lake Street would be impacted.
Mr. Gohde stated Lake Street currently had a 28 foot width and was proposed to be
changed to a 32 foot width in the 2017 CIP.
Council Member Herman questioned if Eveline Street or Canniff Court were scheduled
for construction in the near future.
Mr. Gohde stated he did not believe either street had been included in the 5 year CIP.
Council Member Herman questioned if the street corners would be modified.
Mr. Gohde stated yes. He explained it would be possible to modify the width of those
streets in the future or taper down the right of way to leave a 30 or 28 foot width.
Council Member Herman questioned if the project would be the result of one bid or if it
would take place in sections.
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Mr. Gohde stated the project would be one long contract. He explained the contractor
would complete the construction in phases similar to the recent construction project on
Westfield Street.
Paul Schmidt, 1025 Bay Shore Drive, stated he had spoken to Council several times
regarding his concerns about Bay Shore Drive. He explained he was impressed with the
comments from Council and believed they aligned with what the residents of the
neighborhood would like to see happen. He stated he felt it was ironic that Oshkosh had
been recently recognized for historical beauty by the state. He explained he believed that
beauty would be threatened if streets were widened and sidewalks were added. He
stated he was a new resident of the neighborhood and had purchased his property due
to the location. He explained he was a realtor and understood the value of location. He
stated he understood that street improvements were necessary. He explained leaving the
street the existing width and not adding sidewalks would save the City and taxpayers
money. He thanked Council for their time and consideration.
Council Member Herman questioned who decided if speed bumps were to be installed
in a neighborhood.
Mr. Gohde stated he had received complaints about speeding on Bay Shore Drive for
years prior to the project being in the CIP. He explained other speed humps in the City
were installed due to numerous concerns regarding speeding or had been written in to
the neighborhood plan as was the case for Middle Village. He explained if Council would
like to provide direction regarding installing speed humps City staff would plan
accordingly.
Council Member Panske explained she was requesting some type of speed control device
be installed in the area.
Mayor Cummings stated the residents of Bay Shore Drive were the individuals speeding.
Council Member Palmeri questioned when Council would need to provide City staff with
direction.
Mayor Cummings stated the item had been included on the agenda for Council to
provide City staff with direction that evening.
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Mr. Gohde stated the project was on hold until Council provided direction.
Council Member Palmeri thanked the residents who had invited her to visit their
properties. She explained on the date she visited the three properties there was at least
one jogger, one bicyclist and one woman walking with a stroller. She stated there had
been input from residents that there was not much foot traffic in the area but she believed
this was due to the lack of sidewalks. She explained if the street and driveways were
modified near Lake Street there would be room for sidewalk to be installed. She stated
she believed if homeowners were concerned about maintaining the historic aesthetic they
could use architectural sidewalk material.
Mr. Gohde indicated that architectural block could be used for retaining walls but was
not typically used in sidewalks. He explained it was difficult to remain ADA compliant
with architectural material in a sidewalk.
Kristine Bradish, 1219 Bay Shore Drive, thanked Council for considering the
neighborhood’s input. She explained her property contained 30 cedar trees that were
over 50 years old. She stated the trees were 16 feet in from the curb. She questioned why
construction vehicles would need 16 feet of access.
Mr. Gohde stated the existing sanitary sewer was located 7 feet in from the existing curb.
He explained the backhoe would need to be positioned above the existing sanitary sewer
and the back end rotated as a counter weight and allowed the machine to function. He
stated because the sewer was deep it required a large machine that would catch the
centerline trunk of the trees when it rotated.
Ms. Bradish stated she was in favor of keeping the width of the street at 28 feet. She
explained she believed the neighborhood had a legacy of natural beauty that she wanted
to remain. She thanked Mr. Rohloff for recommending that sidewalks not be installed.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if Mr. Rohloff had recommended no sidewalks.
Mr. Rohloff stated he had not recommended anything. He explained Council would
provide direction to City staff. He stated City staff was aware of the potential impacts of
installing sidewalks especially on Mr. Lasky’s driveway.
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Ms. Bradish stated on the day she and Council Member Palmeri walked the
neighborhood they saw three cars. She explained she believed there was low traffic on
the street and it did not need to be widened.
Jenny Smith, 1222 Bay Shore Drive, stated the construction would not directly impact her
property but it would impact her neighborhood. She explained she was appreciative of
new storm sewers being installed as she understood the old sewers had been installed in
1905. She stated the street surface from Bowen Street to Frankfort Street was in need of
drastic surface improvement. She explained drivers were not able to speed in that section
of road due to the poor condition. She stated she lived just beyond Frankfort Street and
was able to hear the sound of tires bumping along the section of deteriorating street. She
explained the cars would then speed up. She stated she was concerned that if the street
was widened cars would speed even faster. She explained a unique feature of the
neighborhood was the location on the water. She stated the location allowed for a natural
habitat for wildlife including eagles and great horned owls. She explained widening the
street and adding sidewalks would take away from the natural aesthetic of the
neighborhood. She stated she believed the residents were the individuals speeding in the
neighborhood because other drivers did not have a reason to travel down Bay Shore
Drive. She explained she would prefer the street to remain at a width of 28 feet and no
sidewalks. She stated the cedar trees that would be removed would not be able to be
replaced. She explained she understood the City forester replaced trees after construction
but that the replacement trees were lilac bushes and crab apple trees, not maples and
oaks.
Sylvia McDonald, 1283 Bay Shore Drive, stated she appreciated that the City was looking
at Bay Shore Drive in sections as she believed the neighborhood was unique from block
to block. She explained she had raised four children in the neighborhood and her family
was very active in walking and biking 12 months of the year. She stated she did not have
any trouble without a sidewalk on the south side and was able to travel to multiple
locations with ease. She explained she believed if sidewalks were installed Bay Shore
Drive would lose its unique aesthetic.
Gerald Gunther, 1239 Bay Shore Drive, provided Council with a photograph of a
driveway he had installed 10 years ago. He stated he had 30 inch high retaining wall that
would run along the proposed sidewalk. He explained he was concerned people may
get injured if they climbed the wall. He stated he believed the sidewalk would be an
unnecessary expense.
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Peter Jungbacker, 1215 Bay Shore Drive, stated he was the only resident that had a
sidewalk on the south side. He explained the sidewalk would be impacted by the work
that was being proposed. He stated he was excited about the updates to the
infrastructure. He thanked Mr. Gohde for his efforts and communication with the
neighborhood. He stated eliminating the installation of the sidewalks from the proposed
work would have substantial economic impact for the homeowners. He questioned why
the street width could not remain 28 feet from Bowen Street through Lake Street. He
stated it would cost the City and residents less, help prevent speeding and provide
additional greenspace. He explained he believed Council should recognize the
neighborhood as a low density low traffic area.
Mr. Gohde stated Lake Street had a higher volume with on street parking compared to
Bay Shore Drive. He explained if the street width was left at 28 feet and parking was
eliminated on one side of the street it may have a substantial impact to residents.
Mr. Rabe stated the bicycle and pedestrian plan did recommend a share-way lane from
Bowen Street to Frankfort Street. He explained if the street had a 28 foot width that would
leave 10 feet for the share-way lane which was a safety concern.
Council Member Palmeri stated the end of Eveline Street and Frankfort Street were public
right of ways to access the river. She explained she did not believe it was recognizable to
the community as a public access point. She stated if sidewalk was installed on the south
side the public areas would be more accessible.
Mr. Gohde stated it would create a pedestrian path on the south side of the street.
Mr. Rabe stated Eveline Street and Frankfort Street did have public right of ways that
extended to the water.
Mayor Cummings questioned if the public right of ways were presently a greenspace.
Mr. Rabe stated Eveline Street was a greenspace and Frankfort Street had asphalt
extending for a section of the right of way.
Mayor Cummings stated he had lived at the corner of Bay Shore Drive and Frankfort
Street since 1973. He explained his home had historic value and the City had recently
been praised for taking pride and caring for its historic properties and neighborhoods.
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He stated the neighborhood had architectural and historical value. He explained the
neighborhood residents were the ones guilty of speeding as the street had very little
outside traffic. He stated a report from 2008 found less than 200 vehicles a day travelled
the road. He explained the neighborhood had not experienced problems with the street
width at 28 feet and sidewalks on the north side. He stated his recommendation was to
replace the infrastructure but maintain the existing street width and sidewalk situation.
Mr. Rohloff stated City staff was looking for direction. He questioned if there was a
consensus on the street width from Frankfort Street to Lake Street.
Council Members Pech, Panske, and Mayor Cummings stated 28 feet.
Mr. Rohloff asked what the consensus was regarding sidewalk installation on the south
side of the street.
Council Member Herman questioned if Mr. Rohloff was referring to the section of street
east of Frankfort Street.
Mr. Rohloff stated yes.
Council Members Pech, Panske, and Mayor Cummings stated they were opposed to
sidewalk installation.
Council Member Palmeri stated she did not agree with her colleagues.
Mr. Rohloff stated there was a consensus but not unanimity. He explained City staff
would formally present topic to Council at a later date but was asking for direction so
City staff would be able to begin formally preparing plans.
Council Member Palmeri stated the reason she was in favor of sidewalks was because she
would like to be able to safely walk the neighborhood but the lack of sidewalks and access
gave an exclusionary feel to the neighborhood. She explained Bay Shore Drive was not
a gated community. She stated the City was promoting walkability within the
community and believed the neighborhood would want to be inviting and showcase its
historic and natural beauty.
Council Member Pech stated there was a sidewalk on the north side of the street.
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Mayor Cummings stated the current street design had been working for over 100 years.
Council Member Herman explained he believed Mr. Gohde did a great job explaining the
amount of right of way access that would be needed to complete the project. He
suggested Mr. Sturm work with the neighborhood to replant trees appropriate for the
area.
Mr. Rohloff stated City staff would work with the neighborhood. He asked Council for
direction regarding the section of Bay Shore Drive between Bowen Street and Frankfort
Street. He explained the bicycle and pedestrian committee had recommended sidewalk
be installed to mid-block and City staff had recommended sidewalk on the entire south
side.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated it did not sound as though midway was a safe
option.
Council Member Panske stated the committee members had wanted to connect the
existing sidewalk to Bowen Street.
Mayor Cummings stated the existing sidewalk should be removed.
Council Member Herman questioned if there were multifamily units located on that
section of street.
Mr. Rohloff stated there was multifamily housing. He explained the existing sidewalk
was midblock and did not lead anywhere.
Council Member Herman stated he believed there should be sidewalks in that section of
street. He explained there were sidewalks on Bowen Street leading to the river to prevent
individuals from walking in the street to get to the fishing pier. He stated vehicles may
park on the south side of Bay Shore Drive and without sidewalk there would not be a
route for pedestrians. He explained the multifamily units would benefit from the
sidewalk. He stated he did not believe the sidewalk needed to extend east of Frankfort
Street.
Mr. Gohde presented a map that displayed where the multifamily units were located.
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Mayor Cummings stated having a sidewalk halfway down Bay Shore Drive would not
be aesthetically pleasing.
Mr. Rohloff asked Council for a consensus.
Council Pech stated he would defer to the decision of the bicycle and pedestrian
committee.
Council Member Panske stated she would support sidewalk from Bowen Street to
Frankfort Street.
Council Member Herman stated he believed sidewalk on the south side would be
appropriate in that section.
Council Member Pech stated he believed sidewalk installation in that section would
address Council Member Palmeri’s concerns as it would make the neighborhood more
walkable. He explained the pedestrian would need to cross the street after Frankfort
Street to utilize the sidewalk on the north side.
Council Member Panske stated it would be a safe crossing.
Mayor Cummings questioned if City staff would need a count of Council Members in
support of the sidewalk installation.
Mr. Rabe stated they would need direction regarding sidewalk installation and the street
width.
Mr. Rohloff stated he believed there was a consensus on the direction regarding sidewalk
would be to install sidewalk from Bowen Street to Frankfort Street on the south side.
Council Member Herman stated yes.
Council Member Palmeri stated that she wanted sidewalk installed on the south side of
the street all the way to the lake.
Mr. Rohloff stated he understood but asked if she would support the installation of
sidewalk from Bowen Street to Frankfort Street.
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Council Member Palmeri stated yes.
Mayor Cummings stated he did not support the installation of sidewalk.
Council Member Stepanek stated he would support the installation of sidewalk.
Mr. Rohloff stated the consensus was that plans would include sidewalk on the south
side from Bowen Street to Frankfort Street. He asked for a consensus regarding width on
Bay Shore Drive from Bowen Street to Frankfort Street.
Mr. Rabe stated the street was currently 34 feet and the recommendation was to modify
to a 32 foot width.
Council Member Pech stated he would support that recommendation.
Council Member Panske stated she supported the 32 foot width.
Council Member Herman questioned if Frankfort Street to the lake would remain 28 feet.
Mr. Rohloff stated the consensus had been that section would remain 28 feet.
Mayor Cummings stated he would like to see the cost of the sidewalk from Bowen Street
to Frankfort Street.
Mr. Gohde stated he would be able to provide a rough estimate but it would take a few
minutes.
Council Member Herman stated City staff would be able to include the total in the plans
as there would still need to be formal action taken.
Mr. Rohloff stated if the section of the street was a quarter mile that equated to
approximately 1,000 feet. He stated the estimate was $22 per foot so the total would be
approximately $22,000. He explained it was a rough estimate of cost and further details
would be provided.
Mr. Gohde stated the section was approximately 1,150 feet.
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Mr. Rohloff stated it would cost approximately $24,000.
Council Member Pech stated it would cost $25,300.
Mayor Cummings questioned who would be responsible to pay that cost.
Mr. Gohde stated homeowners would be responsible for sidewalk installation except for
intersection squares with ramps.
Mayor Cummings stated the homeowners would be paying for something they did not
want.
Mr. Rohloff stated he had heard a consensus from four Council Members so it would be
included in the plans. He explained there would be special assessment hearings and
formal action in the future. He stated the goal was to have the plans prepared by March
so they could be approved by Council and digging could begin in the spring. He thanked
the neighborhood residents for feedback and the Council for direction.
Council Member Herman stated traffic review should have it on their radar to modify
parking next year.
Mr. Rohloff stated now that City staff had direction they could begin proceeding with all
due diligence necessary to start the project.
Mr. Gohde questioned what street Council Member Herman was stating would need
parking revisions.
Council Member Herman stated Bay Shore Drive. He explained if the 28 foot width was
maintained it was recommended parking be removed from the north side of the street.
C ITIZEN S TATEMENTS TO C OUNCIL
There were no citizen statements to Council.
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C OUNCIL M EMBER A NNOUNCEMENTS & S TATEMENTS
Mayor Cummings thanked the planning department for their efforts in helping secure a
neoclassical district designation from the Wisconsin State Historical Society. He
explained it was not an easy recognition to achieve. He stated the area between the 100
and 200 blocks of Washington Avenue had been designated the Washington Avenue
Neoclassical Historic District and was listed on the Wisconsin State Register of Historic
Places. He explained the area included the public library, the Washington building, the
Masonic Temple and additional properties. He stated ‘neoclassical’ described a building
with pillars. He explained designated historic districts had tax benefits. He stated he had
participated in the toy and food collection with the Oshkosh Fire Department. He
explained since 2010 the toy drive had collected over 14,000 toys, 22,000 pounds of food
and $10,000 in cash donations. He stated in addition to helping families in need the cash
donations also funded two $500 scholarships at Oshkosh North and Oshkosh West high
schools which were awarded to a student who was enrolled in a post-secondary police
or fire educational program. He explained the program was made possible by Oshkosh
fire and police personnel and their families as well as students from Oshkosh North and
West high schools. He stated the fire departments would accept donations at each fire
th
station through December 19.
C ITY M ANAGER A NNOUNCEMENT AND S TATEMENTS
Mr. Rohloff stated Council had four memos related to engineering service agreements for
storm water management and structural engineering services for 2017 to allow the
Engineering department to be prepared for any issues that may arise in the following
year. He explained an update to the TIF scoring sheet had been provided for Council to
review. He stated the former scoring sheet had been split in two with separate sets of
criteria. He explained the first sheet was for economic and industrial development and
the second was for redevelopment situations. He stated the criteria was similar to the
previous scoring sheet but had been divided to support the unique aspects of each
situation.
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MOTION: THE COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO CLOSED SESSION
PURSUANT TO SECTION 19.85(1)(C) OF THE WISCONSIN STATE
STATUTES TO DISCUSS THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION
AND COMPENSATION REGARDING THE CITY MANAGER AN
EMPLOYEE OVER WHICH THE COMMON COUNCIL HAS
JURISDICTION AND EXERCISES RESPONSIBILITY. (Allison-
Aasby; second, Pech)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech,
Mayor Cummings
MOTION: ADJOURN (Herman; second, Panske)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 8:09 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
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