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P ROCEEDINGS OF THE C OMMON C OUNCIL
C ITY OF O SHKOSH, W ISCONSIN
N OVEMBER 9, 2016
REGULAR MEETING held Wednesday, November 9, 2016, at 6:00 p.m. in Council
Chambers, City Hall
Mayor Cummings presided.
PRESENT: Council Members, Benjamin Stepanek, Tom Pech Jr., Lori Palmeri, Steven
Herman, Deb Allison-Aasby, Caroline Panske, and Mayor Steve Cummings
ALSO PRESENT: Mark Rohloff, City Manager; Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk; Lynn
Lorenson, City Attorney; and James Rabe, Director of Public Works
Council Member Stepanek read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Anna Giannopoulos and Kyla Huff from Valley
Christian School.
I NTRODUCTION OF P UBLIC W ORKS S TAFF
Mr. Rabe stated it was customary to introduce new supervisors to Council. He explained
many of the new supervisors were existing City staff who had achieved promotions. He
introduced Bob Johnson, Water Distribution Manager, who accepted the position on
September 1, 2016. He explained Mr. Johnson will report directly to Steve Brand, Utilities
Manager. He stated Mr. Johnson had been the Assistant Water Distribution Manager for
three years and had previously held several positions within the department since joining
Water Distribution in 1981. He introduced Pete Gulbronson, Environmental Compliance
Manager, who accepted the position on August 3, 2016. He explained Mr. Gulbronson
would work closely with the water filtration plant manager and the wastewater
treatment plant manager on various environmental issues. He stated Mr. Gulbronson
would report directly to Steve Brand and had joined the Engineering division of Public
Works as a civil engineering supervisor in March of 2007. He introduced Justin Gierach,
Civil Engineering Supervisor, who filled the position vacated by Mr. Gulbronson. He
explained Mr. Gierach would report directly to Steve Gohde and had joined the
Engineering division as an Engineering Aide in September of 2009 and had filled various
Engineering positions since that time. He explained Laura Jungwirth had accepted the
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Principal Engineer position in the Stormwater division that had been vacated by Mr.
Gierach. He indicated Ms. Jungwirth would report directly to John Ferris, Civil
Engineering Supervisor. He stated Shane Lehr, Wastewater Treatment Supervisor, had
accepted the position on September 1, 2016. He explained Mr. Lehr would report directly
to the Wastewater Treatment Manager. He joined the wastewater treatment plant staff
as an industrial electrician in March of 2016.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated it was enjoyable to meet staff in addition to
department heads and congratulated the group on their achievements.
P UBLIC H EARING
2017 C ITY BUDGET
Bob Cornell, 548 W. Smith Avenue, stated he was concerned with the Parks Department
Budget specifically Senior Services. He explained he was the Vice Chair of the Senior
Center Advisory Board and was concerned about the diminishing support for senior
services. He stated he understood that there were services such as fire and police
protection, upkeep of roads and development that took priority over the Senior Center.
He explained the Senior Center was experiencing significant cuts in the 2017 budget due
to non-renewal contracts for rent. He stated he was not present to request the Senior
Center’s budget be dramatically increased but wanted to remind Council not to forget
about the significance of senior services.
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Jim Meyer, 150 W. 22 Avenue, stated he was a volunteer with the Senior Center. He
provided Council with a brochure on a lifestyle wellness program he helped facilitate
and design to help individuals lose weight and manage medication and promote
wellness. He stated he had personally participated in the program and lost 5 inches
around his waist and over 20 pounds. He explained each session brought in an expert in
the topic. He stated participants were required to commit to the program for 8 months
and paid a fee to cover the room rental cost, program materials, and the fitness
coordinator to be present and did not pose a cost to the Senior Center. He explained the
wellness program and the tour group in addition to other programs were dependent on
the Senior Center to continue. He stated the Senior Center was losing significant funding
in 2017 due to the discontinuation of two renters and fundraising activities not doing as
well as anticipated. He explained they were actively developing programs to raise capital
but it would take time. He stated most participants at the Senior Center were on a fixed
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income and depended on the Senior Center for physical wellness, socialization, mental
health and self-esteem. He explained he was concern after witnessing the discontinuation
of the Thompson Center in Appleton that the 4,000 seniors who utilize the Senior Center
would no longer have a place to go. He asked for Council’s help until they could begin
programs to raise capital.
Gary Gray, 815 W. Linwood Avenue, stated budgeting was a difficult and complex task
and sometimes it could be difficult to see obvious answers to issues. He explained the
proposed 2017 tax rate was approximately doubled the 2016 tax rate. He stated the tax
rate in Oshkosh was substantially higher when compared to other Wisconsin cities. He
explained he believed a number of people were grateful for the state’s limit regarding
expenditure restraint because if it were not in place he believed the 6 percent increase
would be greater. He stated he did not see any areas where the Council could make
substantial changes to the budget. He explained he believed it to be unfortunate that the
budget process did not allow for citizens to participate. He stated within the population
there may be individuals who had ideas on improving the budget. He explained to some
the 6 percent increase may not be significant but to median income individuals it could
have a major impact.
Paul Schmidt, 1025 Bayshore Drive, stated he was present to address the installation of
new sidewalks on the south side of Bayshore Drive. He explained he had questioned
City staff why the sidewalks were being proposed and had been told if new streets were
installed without sidewalks the cost of the addition of the sidewalks was automatically
included in the budget and it would then be up to Council whether or not to approve
them. He stated there were a number of properties on Bayshore Drive with landscaping
that would be affected by the installation of sidewalks. He explained there were
properties that would lose the enjoyment of greenspace. He stated he did not understand
the purpose of the sidewalk especially considering the cost involved. He explained he
believed it was a dangerous street for speed. He stated he had been involved in an
accident resulting from a car speeding down the road.
Council Member Allison-Aasby thanked Mr. Schmidt for speaking and informed him
because they were holding a public hearing on the budget they were limited to discuss
how the sidewalk installation would impact the proposed CIP budget.
Mr. Schmidt indicated he was present to ask Council to consider removing the sidewalk
installation from the budget.
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Mayor Cummings stated he lived on Bayshore Drive and those who tended to speed were
the residents of Bayshore Drive.
D IRECTION TO S TAFF ON AMENDMENTS TO PROPOSED BUDGET
Council Member Herman asked for an explanation of lines 17, 18, 19 and 20 on the second
page of the proposed amendments.
Trena Larson, Director of Finance, stated the amendment was proposing recovering the
full cost of supplying professional public services to all events in Oshkosh such as
Country USA, EAA, and Lifefest. She explained it was incorporating the existing charges
into a new budget for that purpose. She stated that summarized items 17 through 20.
She explained items 21 through 26 were in reference to adding the charges due to the
components of the Walker parking study that were passed by Council.
Council Member Herman asked for clarification regarding the items attributed to the
Convention Center.
Mr. Rohloff stated the City did not currently have a special events fund and funded some
events through the Convention Center fund. He explained routing the public safety
service cost through the Convention Center fund resulted in avoiding expenditure
restraint problems. He stated the beneficiary of the services would then be paying for
expenditure concerns such as overtime.
Council Member Herman questioned if his understanding was correct; that if an event
such as Gus Macker required police presence they would pay a fee for that presence
which would be put into the Convention Center fund and later be used to pay for the
expenditure of police officer’s overtime due to the event.
Mr. Rohloff stated that was the general idea. He explained City staff was not proposing
to do this for every special event and needed to come up with a long term strategy on
how to comply with expenditure restraint. He stated when large events would come up
they wanted the expenditure to not affect the general fund but would still like to be able
to provide the service. He explained that it would also enable the police department to
provide fatigued staff with relief. He stated City staff was providing Council a draft and
encouraged Council to provide suggestions and ask questions.
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Council Member Herman questioned in regards to items 9 and 10 ‘parks add trade tech’
if there was more than one position being added.
Ms. Larson indicated one position was being created and the two lines referenced the
salary and the benefits of the position.
Council Member Panske questioned if the additional $5,000 BID contribution was a
onetime contribution or an annual contribution.
Mr. Rohloff stated the seasonal help was an item the BID requested the City to consider
and would hopefully be a permanent item that would be paid for by the BID in the future.
Council Member Panske questioned if the $5,000 was in addition to the $20,000 proposal.
Mr. Rohloff stated no; the BID was packaging how they would like their $20,000 allocated.
He explained the BID proposed to contribute $20,000 for next year and an additional
$5,000 would come from one of the TIFs. He stated the City needed $10,000 for public
education, $10,000 for signs and $5,000 for enforcement. He explained the BID was asking
Chief Smith to look at options at what $5,000 will get the BID in terms of enforcement.
He stated the Chief’s tentative answer was not much because if you divide $5,000 into 50
weeks that results in only $100 per week allocated towards enforcement. He explained if
the Chief stated that was not feasible the BID would withdraw the $5,000 request and
City staff would make the adjustment.
Council Member Herman questioned how parking enforcement was currently being
handled.
Chief Smith explained parking enforcement was taken care of by the Community Service
Officers however it was on an ad hoc basis. He stated CSOs were often pulled off of
parking enforcement to work a special event or traffic situation. He explained the police
department did not currently have staff dedicated to parking enforcement. He stated a
parking enforcement officer worked from 2 a.m. until 5:00 a.m. to monitor overnight
parking.
Council Member Herman stated he had seen the parking enforcement vehicle in
operation during the day.
Chief Smith stated he did not have a parking enforcement vehicle in his fleet.
Mr. Rohloff explained there were three packages present in the proposed amendment.
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He stated City staff would make changes based on recommendation from Council and
then provide Council with an updated package prior to Council consideration on
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November 22.
Mayor Cummings questioned when City staff would like the feedback.
Ms. Larson stated she would prefer the information by Friday morning if possible.
Council Member Allison-Aasby questioned what time Friday morning. She explained
Council worked more efficiently with deadlines.
Ms. Larson stated 8:00 a.m. Friday morning.
Council Member Palmeri stated she appreciated the package that had been presented.
Mr. Rohloff explained there had been considerable work involved to present solutions
that did not increase taxes or damage expenditure restraint but addressed the service
issues that both Chief Smith and Chief Franz had concerns about.
C ITIZEN S TATEMENTS TO C OUNCIL
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Mark Hageman, 760 W. 10 Avenue, stated he lived in a 10 unit condo building and
would be subject to the rental inspection ordinance as a renter. He explained he lived
next to an individual who had experienced a welfare check in September of 2016 due to
the smell of accumulated garbage. He stated the police department completed a 6 page
report and took 37 photographs showing the garbage. He read from the report stating,
‘residence was in dire condition, unable to see any flooring due to debris. Entire residence
covered with fruit flies and black flies’ and stated it also addressed his concerns of the
smell and fire hazard to the residence. He stated he had taken the police report to the
City health department, the inspections department, the fire department and county
social services. He explained staff he had met with understood his problem but all had
the same answer ‘no City or County agency can enter an owner occupied residence to
enforce corrective action regarding a problem like this’. He stated he contacted the condo
association who indicated they were also unable to enter a residence. He explained he
sent a copy of the police report and a letter to the City attorney’s office. He displayed an
official post office certified mail receipt showing the City attorney’s office received his
letter on October 19, 2016 and he had yet to receive a response. He stated he would have
expected a response stating that the attorney’s office was unable to assist. He explained
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in the 2015-2016 City Strategic Plan it was stated ‘the City will respond to a citizen’s
request equitably and fairly and in a timely, informative, and thorough matter’. He stated
he did not support the ordinance as it was not fair that the individual living next to him
in an owner occupied dwelling could live in filth with no repercussions while he as a
renter would be subject to inspections and enforcement. He stated the ordinance was
supposed to ‘improve the health and safety of tenants’. He questioned how, as a tenant,
his health and safety was improved when he shared a six inch wall with an owner
occupied health and safety hazard. He stated on September 12, 2016 Mr. Davis stated it
‘came down to the health and safety of tenants and visitors’. He questioned why a tenant
should be subject to a health and safety inspection when the City would not enforce the
same health and safety requirements on an owner occupied residence. He thanked
Council Member Panske for voting ‘no’ on the ordinance.
C ONSENT A GENDA
Report of Bills by the Finance Director
Resolution 16-508 Approve Change Order No. 1 for Public Works Contract No. 16-16
with Vinton Construction Co., for Seniors Center South Parking Lot
Improvement (+$70,435.88)
Resolution 16-509 Approve Amendment No. 2 to Professional Services Agreement
with AECOM Technical Services, Inc. for Environmental Services,
Permitting, Parking Lot Design, Preparation of Special Conditions
for Construction Documents, Bidding Assistance and Construction
Management for Proposed Parking Lot Improvements at Existing
Lot Adjacent to the Seniors Center South (+$2,557.50)
Resolution 16-510 Approve Engineering Services Agreement with CH2M HILL
Engineers, Inc. for Lead Service Line Replacement Program
Engineering Assistance ($77,380.00)
Resolution 16-511 Award Bid for Public Works Contract No. 16-30 to Insituform
Technologies USA, Inc. for Sanitary Sewer Lining ($252,673.74)
Resolution 16-512 Approve Agreement with Ground Effects of WI, Inc. for 2016/2017
Snow & Ice Removal
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Council Member Palmeri requested to remove 16-512 from the Consent Agenda for
separate consideration.
Resolution 16-513 Approve Amendment No. 1 to Professional Services Agreement
with AECOM Technical Services, Inc. for Design Services for South
Park Area Basin Retrofit (+$53,350.00)
Resolution 16-514 Approve Agreement with JWC Building Specialties, Inc., for Repairs
to the Moveable Wall System at the Oshkosh Convention Center
($51,765.95)
Resolution 16-515 Approve Appointment to the Oshkosh/Winnebago Housing
Authority
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING RESOLUTION 16-512
(Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske,
Mayor Cummings
Resolution 16-512 Approve Agreement with Ground Effects of WI, Inc. for 2016/2017
Snow & Ice Removal
MOTION: LAYOVER TO NOVEMBER 22, 2016 COUNCIL MEETING(Pech;
second, Panske)
Council Member Pech withdrew his motion to layover resolution 16-512.
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Stepanek, Pech, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske, Mayor
Cummings
Noes (1) Palmeri
Brad Crook, 622 Frederick Street, stated he was present to discuss the City accepting a
bid from Ground Works. He explained he had experienced an incident with the company
during the summer as they completed green scape work. He stated company staff had
been brought to the site and shown the areas of concern. He explained when a company
was employed for landscaping they needed to consider aesthetics in addition to
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structural integrity. He stated when he pointed items of concern out to company staff he
was laughed at. He explained when he told the company the work was substandard a
member of the company confronted him in an unprofessional manner. He stated he
could understand if the staff disagreed with his comments but did not believe it was
appropriate to become aggressive. He explained the unprofessional manner continued
at the subsequent jobsite they visited. He stated he was concerned with how the company
staff would interact with the individuals having snow removed. He explained the level
of professionalism required to place a bid with the City should be exceptional and
Ground Works did not meet this level of professionalism. He stated he understood
Ground Works was the lowest bid but the City would get what they paid for. He stated
there had been correspondence involved and Council and public works employees had
been made aware of the actions of Ground Works. He explained he did not want Council
to consider Ground Works for future jobs.
Council Member Pech asked for an explanation of the correspondence and when the
incident occurred.
Mr. Crook stated he was from Middle Village and they had two green scapes landscaped
by Ground Works. He explained in regards to correspondence he believed Mr. Palmeri
had written an email regarding Ground Works. He stated he had additional
correspondence from coworkers stating the landscaping did not look as it should. He
explained he had been informed by Engineering that it was structurally sound but he did
not believe it was aesthetically pleasing. He explained he had also written an email to
the company and copied Council Member Palmeri, Mr. Palmeri, and additional City staff.
Council Member Palmeri stated she believed Mr. Davis was presented at one of the
incidents.
Mr. Crook stated yes and other planning staff or public works staff were present.
Council Member Pech stated he believed the resolution should be held over until the
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November 22 Council Meeting.
Mr. Rohloff indicated it was important for Council to select a snow removal company
prior to the upcoming change in weather. He stated City staff were prepared to answer
questions.
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Mr. Davis stated Ground Effects had been awarded the bid for the two greenspaces in the
Middle Village project. He explained it was brought to his attention that there was
dissatisfaction of the block work that had been completed. He stated when he and City
staff went to visit the site and found the dissatisfaction was with the aesthetics and that
the work was structurally sound. He explained they requested to view the instructions
from the block manufacturer on how the block should be installed but were told it was
up to the mason on how the block was installed. He stated there were multiple
conversations during the project regarding the quality of the work. He explained there
were sharp words exchanged between Mr. Crook and the representative from Ground
Effects regarding the quality of the work. He stated he had been disappointed to see that
as a City employee reviewing what the contractor had done.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if Elizabeth Williams, Associate Planner, was
present.
Mr. Davis indicated she was not.
Council Member Palmeri stated she had been copied on a number of emails regarding
delays to the project and in one such email Ms. Williams had indicated that the company
was unresponsive. She explained she believed it had not been a single incident but a
continuous display of discourteous communication throughout the project.
Mr. Davis indicated there had been a lack of responsiveness. He stated phone calls had
not been returned to City staff in a timely manner. He explained Ms. Williams had
expressed frustration to him.
Council Member Panske questioned if there were any specific citizen concerns regarding
the company’s snow and ice removal.
Mr. Rabe stated Ground Effects had received the snow and ice removal contract
numerous times over the past several years. He explained City staff had not received any
specific complaints regarding the company’s work in the past. He stated he was aware
that in the past the company had been approached by very angry members of the public
and had responded appropriately to those incidents. He explained the experience of City
staff with the company in regards to previous ice and snow removal contracts had not
been the same as what was being described regarding the landscaping project. He stated
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that was why when he reviewed the pre-qualification forms he felt comfortable pre-
qualifying Ground Effects for the ice and snow removal contract.
Council Member Herman asked if there had been issues with the Middle Village contract
from the beginning.
Mr. Davis explained several components of the project had taken longer than City staff
and the neighborhood had expected. He stated the issues began with the design of the
project and continued into the bidding and construction phase.
Council Member Allison-Aasby questioned when the last time the City had a contract
with Ground Effects for snow and ice removal.
Mr. Rabe stated it had been the winter of 2014 / 2015. He distributed a list of companies
that had received the snow and ice removal contract since 2002 and a cost comparison.
He stated there was no guarantee as to how much work will be a part of the contract as
the contract would be in response to citizens who complained to the engineering division
regarding individuals who had not cleared their sidewalks within 24 hours of the snow
stopping.
Council Member Pech questioned if the fees that were charged for the service were billed
to the property owner.
Mr. Rabe stated yes. He explained a citizen would call the engineering department
regarding a sidewalk that had not been shoveled and City staff would take photographs
to verify the validity of the complaint. He stated once the complaint was validated a list
of properties would be provided to the contractor who would remove the snow. He
explained all costs associated with the snow removal would be billed back to the adjacent
property owner in addition to an administrative fee.
Council Member Pech asked for clarification that related to snow removal City staff had
not received any negative feedback.
Mr. Rabe stated he had not received any.
Steven Gohde, Assistant Director of Public Works, stated they had received complaints
regarding the practice as people did not feel it was justified and did not want to pay but
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Ground Effects had not had any issues regarding customer service or work related
complaints.
Council Member Pech questioned if other contractors had experienced similar complaints
from individuals not wanting to pay for the service.
Mr. Gohde stated he received similar complaints every year. He stated there was a
contractor on the comparison list provided by Mr. Rabe that he would not recommend
but that was not the case with Ground Effects.
Mayor Cummings questioned if the City had used Ground Effects for other projects aside
from the greenspace in Middle Village.
Mr. Davis stated he had not used them for other construction projects.
Mr. Rabe stated they had been subcontracted but had not held City contracts for
construction activities.
Mr. Rohloff questioned if they had been used for RDA properties.
Mr. Davis stated the RDA had utilized Ground Effects for grass cutting and snow
removal for the past three years. He explained they had completed those assignments
without any concerns.
Council Member Palmeri stated she understood there was an $8 difference between the
first and second bidder. She explained she was aware there was a history of contracts
with Ground Effects in the snow and ice removal capacity but she was concerned that the
City was rewarding with the honor of serving the City with pay after having negative
and unprofessional experiences with both City staff and neighbors. She stated regardless
of the type of project she believed Council should have the option of looking at another
bidder.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she did remember speaking with a number of
residents of Middle Village and City staff regarding frustrations with Ground Effects.
She explained she was aware it was two distinct types of work and was a budget concern
but stated she struggled rewarding bad behavior with taxpayer dollars.
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Mayor Cummings questioned if it had been Ms. Williams who was directly involved with
the Middle Village project.
Mr. Davis stated yes.
Mr. Rohloff stated he was concerned that the season for snow removal was quickly
approaching. He explained Mr. Rabe had provided the cost analysis for the bidders and
Council could award a different bidder. He stated City staff wanted to ensure there was
a contractor in place in the event of snowfall.
Council Member Pech questioned if a representative from Ground Effects wished to
speak.
Charlie Boelter, a representative from Ground Effects, explained the company had not
received a site plan or a grade plan that they had requested from Ms. Williams. She stated
the day before they were to begin construction they were told the plans had changed
again and were to begin construction on the Franklin and Ida Street area. She explained
the company completed that work without any complaints. She stated they held a
neighborhood planting day where only one neighbor attended and therefore determined
there was no neighborhood support. She explained they then began work on the area of
Central and Parkway. She stated during the construction phase in the spring there had
been no feedback provided to the company until the end of the project. She explained
they had been called to a meeting at the site to address concerns. She stated her partner,
Chris, attempted to discuss the situation with Mr. Crook, but was continually
interrupted. She explained Chris then ‘charged’ at Mr. Crook but did nothing other than
getting into Mr. Crook’s personal space. She stated Ground Effects had not designed the
space and had built it according to the picture provided. She explained they had
provided color options to the neighborhood which was taken to the neighborhood
association meeting. She stated they did not begin construction until Ms. Williams
confirmed the type of block they were to use. She explained it had been a single
altercation and had expressed apologies in an email. She stated in regards to
unresponsiveness the company had been instructed not to respond to the neighborhood
but to respond to the City which she indicated they had done.
Council Member Palmeri questioned who Ms. Boelter understood had been responsible
for communication regarding the community planting day.
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Ms. Boelter stated she did not know but was aware there were signs all over the
neighborhood advertising it.
Council Member Allison-Aasby questioned if it was true that the company did not
receive site plans at the appropriate time prior to beginning their work.
Mr. Davis stated he was not able to answer that question on the spot. He explained he
was aware there was a concept plan complete and that the company requested additional
information but he would need to confer with Ms. Williams to gather the details.
Council Member Pech stated he was not condoning the behavior but did understand how
conversations can get heated. He explained he believed it was one incident and that
Ground Effects had heard the concerns that evening and hoped they took it seriously. He
stated he believed there may have been mitigating factors that raised the tension.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she concurred with Council Member Pech but
wanted Ground Effects to be on notice as when they were awarded a contract they were
acting as an extension of the City. She stated if a similar issue were to come up again she
did not see how they would be able to award another bid.
Mayor Cummings questioned if the company had begun the work without having a plan
in hand.
Ms. Boelter stated she had requested a plan from Ms. Williams and had not received it
therefore the project began nearly a month and a half late.
Mayor Cummings questioned if there were written instructions regarding the materials
such as brick and stone.
Ms. Boelter stated no, that the company had been provided a picture.
Council Member Palmeri explained that it was her understanding that it was not a single
incident but multiple incidents over several months. She stated it was her understanding
that a conceptual plan had been provided to the company. She explained she would not
support awarding Ground Effects the bid.
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A CTION T AKEN ON O RDINANCES AND R ESOLUTIONS
Ordinance 16-516 Repeal & Recreate Chapter 30 Zoning Ordinance & Zoning Map
Effective January 1, 2017 (This Update Replaces the Existing Zoning
Ordinance & Map Adopted in 1997) (Staff Recommends Deferral for
Future Plan Commission Review)
MOTION: REFER BACK TO PLAN COMISSION (Pech; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske,
Mayor Cummings
Council Member Herman asked for an explanation of why City staff requested the
ordinance to return to the Plan Commission.
Darryn Burich, Planning Services Manager, explained his staff had received feedback
from Council and were making adjustments based on those concerns. He stated there
were areas of the map City staff recommended changing as well.
Council Member Herman questioned if City staff had heard from contractors regarding
the proposed ordinance.
Mr. Burich stated they had received concerns which was why they were responding with
changes.
Council Member Herman questioned if they had been significant enough that he believed
the Plan Commission needed to address the ordinance again.
Mr. Burich stated with respect to some of the mapping changes they were significant.
Mayor Cummings explained there had been comments from the Jackson Street
Neighborhood Association in regards to the maintaining the historic characteristics of the
neighborhood. He stated there had been discussion at the Landmarks Commission
meeting regarding looking at historic preservation within the plan.
Mr. Burich stated City staff had developed alternatives to the University Transition
Overlay zone and would like to get feedback from the Plan Commission.
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Council Member Palmeri questioned if they had received feedback regarding preferences
to the drafted UTO zone alternatives from the Jackson Street Neighborhood Association.
Mr. Burich stated he had not. He explained he believed the association’s main goal had
been to back off the UTO zone from Jackson and each of the alternatives do so.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated one of her concerns was who held the ultimate
decision. She explained she understood that it was proposed that the Plan Commission
would have the ultimate decision versus the Common Council and she was
uncomfortable with that.
Council Member Herman stated he was not comfortable with it either. He explained he
believed it should ultimately come back to Council as Council was composed of elected
officials and the Plan Commission was composed of appointed officials.
Mayor Cummings stated he agreed.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated if City staff or the Plan Commission would like
specifics as to her concern she would provide them at a later time.
Mr. Burich stated he had addressed those concerns and re-written the language of the
ordinance which was ready to go before the Plan Commission.
Ordinance 16-517 Modify Parking Regulations on Eagle Street
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Allison-Aasby)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske,
Mayor Cummings
Ordinance 16-518 Approve Request to Annex to the City from the Town of Oshkosh /
Olsen Annexation, 2508 Shorewood Drive (Plan Commission
Recommends Approval)
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Panske)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske,
Mayor Cummings
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Council Member Pech requested waiving the rules to approve the annexation on the first
reading.
Mr. Burich explained the annexation was being requested due to a failing septic system.
Mr. Rohloff indicated it was the second reading so the rules did not need to be waived.
Mr. Burich stated they had received notification that the Department of Administration
had reviewed the annexation and found it to be within the public interest.
C OUNCIL D ISCUSSION, D IRECTION TO C ITY M ANAGER AND F UTURE A GENDA
I TEMS
Mr. Rabe explained lead water services had been a hot button issue in the news for over
a year after the situation in Flint, Michigan. He stated the City had been replacing lead
services on the public or utilities side for several years. He explained the City had not
previously had a comprehensive plan to address lead service removal on the public and
private side. He stated it was important to keep in mind the Wisconsin Public Service
Commission does prohibit the City from using utility dollars to replace the services that
were owned by the private property owners so it would need to be approached
creatively. He explained the City had applied for and received a principal forgiveness
loan the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources for the purpose of private lead
water service replacements. He stated City staff was developing a comprehensive
program to ultimately replace all lead water services in both the public and private
sectors that would involve ordinance revisions. He explained City staff was looking at
what other communities have done and would like to develop a pilot program to help
define what works best for Oshkosh. He stated they were developing a workshop to
provide Council with information on the pilot program.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if the workshop would include information on what
the City would do to identify the location of the lead service lines on the private side.
Mr. Rabe explained that would be a component of the workshop in addition to public
education. He stated it was geared towards developing a comprehensive City wide
program.
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Council Member Panske questioned if there was a timeline for the implementation of the
pilot program.
Mr. Rabe stated ideally City staff would have a plan in place to add to next year’s Capital
Improvement Plan. He explained when they had applied for the grant they had indicated
the intent of using the street reconstruction program as a test area to develop the pilot
program. He stated nearly every private residence adjacent to the streets scheduled for
reconstruction in 2017 did have a lead water service.
Council Member Panske questioned if the funds from the DNR would be received
annually.
Mr. Rabe stated they had received $500,000 as a principal forgiveness loan for 2017. He
explained they had submitted their intent to apply for 2018 funding and the DNR stated
the funds allocated through the Safe Drinking Water Loan Fund Program would only be
available for 2017 and 2018 barring any additional funding being applied to the program
from the state or federal legislature.
Mr. Rohloff questioned when City staff was required to submit additional information to
the DNR.
Mr. Rabe stated the end of January. He explained they would need to submit plan
specification information. He stated they would like to schedule the workshop for
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December 13.
Mr. Rohloff stated there was some urgency as City staff wanted to be able to provide a
plan to the DNR and make maximum use of the $500,000.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she was concerned as there would potentially be
only one Council meeting in December and Mr. Rohloff’s review as on the same evening.
She requested providing Council with information as soon as possible.
Mr. Rabe stated he would push staff to prepare information to provide Council in
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advance of the Friday prior to the December 13 Council meeting.
Mr. Rohloff explained there had been a meeting with the BID Board regarding the
parking downtown. He stated he believed the result of the discussion reinforced
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Council’s previous action at the October 25 Council meeting. He explained the BID
Board was scheduled to meet and would be bringing forward their proposed plan for
2017. He stated the budget adjustments reflected the changes that Council approved
which included everything in the Walker study recommendation with the exception of
paid on street parking. He explained the BID would need to submit that in their budget
and plan for the Council to approve. He stated City staff needed to work on the signage
and public education components. He explained the BID was willing to commit $15,000
or $20,000 for 2017. He stated the City could utilize TIF funds in order to complete
signage and public education. He explained the BID had questioned what Chief Smith
would be able to provide in terms of enforcement for $5,000 but divided over a year
would not result in significant funds committed to enforcement. He stated City staff
would report back to the BID who would then update their plan and budget to be
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submitted to Council on the November 22 Council meeting.
Council Member Herman stated he believed the Parking Utility Board needed to review
the parking lots and how parking was utilized in those lots. He explained he had received
feedback from shop owners stating their concern that paid parking would destroy their
business. He stated there had been discussion in past years regarding color coded lots
that designated where employees could park.
Mr. Rohloff stated there needed to be education provided to the BID to help them
understand the finances. He explained members of the BID believed they were paying
for debt service. He stated the BID was paying for operational services and there was
little debt in the fund. He explained he had spoken with a BID member who believed the
lot on the 400 block of Main Street was for employee parking which demonstrated the
need for education as this was not the case.
Council Member Herman stated he believed paid parking would create nothing but
problems.
Mayor Cummings stated he had conversations with business owners with shops on Main
Street who had requested a workshop with Council, the BID Board and merchants on
Main Street. He stated the merchants had indicated they felt disconnected although they
were the individuals who made their living on Main Street.
He explained the BID would provide their 2017 plan and budget and the only question
remaining was if they wanted to commit the additional $5,000 for enforcement.
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C ITIZEN S TATEMENTS TO C OUNCIL
There were no citizen statements to Council.
C OUNCIL M EMBER A NNOUNCEMENTS & S TATEMENTS
Mayor Cummings thanked the City Clerk and her staff for an incredible job with Election
Day and early voting at the Convention Center.
C ITY M ANAGER A NNOUNCEMENT AND S TATEMENTS
Mr. Rohloff explained the engineering services agreement with Professional Services
Industries, Inc was in regards to City staff was preparing work for the 2017 Capital
Improvement Projects.
Council Member Panske questioned if there was a minimum depth for boring purposes
and if there was not could it be created.
Mr. Rabe explained City staff examined where they intended to place utilities from an
elevation standpoint and targeted boring to occur 5 feet below where that placement
would occur.
Council Member Panske questioned if it was completely utility based.
Mr. Rabe indicated that was true for the soil boring. He stated for street design purposes
it only took approximately 5 feet to determine what was underneath. He explained the
utility depth drove the depth of the soil borings.
Mr. Rohloff stated the professional service agreement with AECOM was in regards to
relocating the load area to behind Allerton Drive. He stated the environmental study was
an item required prior to the City being able to receive funds towards the relocation. He
explained the second professional services agreement with AECOM was related to
making progress with the Buckstaff property. He explained when the City would take
the property over they wanted to have as much environmental work complete as
possible. He stated he had been asked numerous questions regarding
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the D-league basketball team possibly utilizing that site. He explained if the City was
awarded the team it would be used for that purpose but if were not the environmental
work still needed to get complete. He stated the final professional service agreement was
in regards to renovations at the Convention Center, specifically with the dividing walls.
He stated due to the complexity of keeping the Convention Center open during
renovations they had hired the Bold Company for construction management.
Council Member Palmeri questioned what the management costs would cover.
Mr. Rohloff stated the management costs covered construction management of the entire
renovations project not just the dividing walls. He stated the City was closed for the
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Christmas holiday on Monday, December 26 and a Council meeting was presently
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scheduled Tuesday, December 27. He requested direction from Council so an ordinance
could be drafted if the meeting were to be cancelled.
Council Member Pech stated he had already planned on the meeting being cancelled.
Mr. Rohloff stated City staff would draft the ordinance to cancel the meeting.
MOTION: THE COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO CLOSED SESSION
PURSUANT TO SECTION 19.85(1)(C) OF THE WISCONSIN STATE
STATUTES TO DISCUSS THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION
AND COMPENSATION REGARDING THE CITY MANAGER AN
EMPLOYEE OVER WHICH THE COMMON COUNCIL HAS
JURISDICTION AND EXERCISES RESPONSIBILITY. (Allison-
Aasby; second, Pech)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman, Allison-Aasby, Panske,
Mayor Cummings
MOTION: ADJOURN (Panske; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
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