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P ROCEEDINGS OF THE C OMMON C OUNCIL
C ITY OF O SHKOSH, W ISCONSIN
O CTOBER 11, 2016
REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday, October 11, 2016, at 6:00 p.m. in the Council
Chambers, City Hall.
Mayor Cummings presided.
PRESENT: Council Members, Deb Allison-Aasby, Caroline Panske, Benjamin
Stepanek, Tom Pech Jr., Lori Palmeri, Steven Herman, and Mayor Steve Cummings
ALSO PRESENT: Mark Rohloff, City Manager; Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk; Lynn
Lorenson, City Attorney; and James Rabe, Director of Public Works
Council Member Allison-Aasby read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Hunter Gruse and Kate Gassere from Emmeline
Cook Elementary School and Daniel Chopp from Oaklawn Elementary School.
C ITIZEN S TATEMENTS TO C OUNCIL
There were no citizen statements to Council.
C ONSENT A GENDA
Report of Bills by the Finance Director
Receipt & Filing of Common Council Minutes from September 27, 2016
Receipt of Claim filed with City’s Insurance Company
A) Notice of Claim was filed by the Winnebago Apartment Association Inc.
and its members, in which they allege that the residential rental contact
registration and inspection program ordinance in unconstitutional.
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B) Notice of Claim by Herrling Clark Law Firm on behalf of their clients, Town
of Vinland, for damage to Wooden Shoe Road from July-August 2016
allegedly caused by hauling excessive weight loads of excavation materials.
Resolution 16-480 Approve Joint Powers Agreement / Winnebago County 911
Emergency System
Resolution 16-481 Support Legislation to Reform Commercial Property Tax
Assessment
Resolution 16-482 Approve Granting Privilege in Street to Multimedia
Communications & Engineering Inc. for Installation of a Fiber Optic
Cable along East Side of Oregon Street (Plan Commission
Recommends Approval)
Resolution 16-483 Approve Conditional Use Permit/Planned Development for
Construction of a University Intramural Recreation Field Complex;
North Side of Pearl Avenue from Wisconsin Street to 350 Feet West
of Osceola Street (Plan Commission Recommends Approval)
Resolution 16-484 Approve Agreement with Oshkosh City Cab for Paratransit
Ambulatory Services for GO Transit 2017-2019 ($810,217.00)
Resolution 16-485 Disallowance of Claim by Marcy Hauer
Resolution 16-486 Approve Appointment for Plan Commission
Resolution 16-487 Approve Class “B” Fermented Malt License, Special Class “B”
Licenses & Operator Licenses
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she wanted to make Council aware that her name
appeared on the list of applicants as she had applied for a bartender’s license.
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA (Panske; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman,
Mayor Cummings
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A CTION T AKEN ON O RDINANCES AND R ESOLUTIONS
Resolution 16-488 Approve Phase II of 2016 Great Neighborhoods Capital
Improvement Programs Funding in the Amount of $46,697.00;
Approve Professional Service Agreement with SEH, Inc. for Millers
Bay Neighborhood Association Streetscape Design Plan ($46,697.00)
MOTION: ADOPT (Panske; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman,
Mayor Cummings
Ruth McKinley, 1560 Menominee Drive, stated she was present to represent the Miller’s
Bay Neighborhood Association.
Chris Studeman, 1906 Menominee Drive, stated he was a member of the Miller Bay
Neighborhood Association’s Board and was present to support the resolution and answer
questions.
Council Member Pech asked for an explanation of the plans and initiatives for the
neighborhood association.
Ms. McKinley explained planning had begun two years prior after a survey was
completed by the neighborhood residents. She stated the plan addressed speeding
concerns, landscaping, and the vista. She explained the neighborhood association
selected a design company that included the services of an award winning landscape
architect. She stated the proposed plan would not only improve the Miller’s Bay
neighborhood and have a positive impact on the entire eastside of the City.
Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of the concerns the streetscape
company intended to address.
Ms. McKinley stated underground utilities was an area the neighborhood association
would like the streetscape company to address. She stated they would also like to
address the three different kinds of street lighting that was in place on certain streets
within the neighborhood.
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Mr. Studeman explained the streetscape company would address traffic needs and
determine how streets could be designed to slow down traffic naturally. He stated the
company also intended to address how to provide pedestrians safer access to trails.
Council Member Palmeri questioned why a private company was sought out to provide
streetscaping design instead of the City planning department.
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, explained the plan was not for an
individual project but for a comprehensive and cohesive project for the entire
neighborhood that would include engineering, landscaping, and design. He stated it was
determined that the planning department would not be best suited to provide those
services.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if the neighborhood was asked to participate in
fundraising for the project.
Mr. Davis indicated the project had received funds from the Oshkosh Area Community
Foundation. He stated his expectation was for the neighborhood to fund the
implementation of the plan.
Resolution 16-489 Approve Residential Rental Inspections & Complaint Based
Housing Inspection Fee Schedules, Inspection Checklist and 5-Year
Cycle Map
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman,
Mayor Cummings
Noes (1) Panske
MOTION: DIVIDE RESOLUTION: A) COMPLAINT BASED INSPECTION
FEES B) RESIDENTIAL RENTAL INSPECTION FEES, MAP AND
CHECKLIST (Panske; second, Stepanek)
LOST: Ayes (2) Panske, Stepanek
Noes (5) Allison-Aasby, Pech, Palmeri, Herman, Mayor Cummings
Council Member Panske requested the complaint based inspection fee schedule be
separated from the residential inspection fee schedule and the map.
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Council Member Pech asked for an explanation of the requested separation of fees.
Council Member Panske stated she wanted to show her support of the complaint based
inspection fees but not the residential inspection fees.
Council Member Pech asked for an explanation of the items included in the resolution.
Mr. Davis explained the first piece of the resolution detailed residential rental inspection
fees and complaint based housing inspection fees. He stated the second piece of the
resolution was a checklist that would be distributed to tenants and landlords to make
them aware of what inspectors would be looking for during inspections. He explained
the final piece was the map that identified the five different areas of the City that would
be inspected one year at a time in a five year cycle.
Council Member Pech explained the checklist was comprised of health and safety items
and was not designed to seek out zoning or code violation items.
Mr. Davis stated the inspectors would only be looking for health and safety codes during
the internal inspections.
Mayor Cummings stated approximately 1,000 complaint based inspections take place
annually without a fee, leaving the taxpayer responsible for funding the inspections.
Mr. Davis stated this was correct.
Mayor Cummings stated taxpayers in Oshkosh were spending approximately $50,000
annually for the complaint based inspections and citations. He explained the rental
inspection program would allow for the taxpayer to discontinue paying for the
inspections.
Mr. Davis stated this was correct.
Council Member Herman questioned what prompted the inspection staff to bring the
idea of a program forward.
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Mr. Davis explained City inspection staff believed the landlords who had violations
should be responsible for paying for the inspections and resulting violations and not the
general tax payers or permit pullers in the City.
Council Member Herman stated the complaint based inspection fees were higher than
the rental inspection fees.
Mr. Davis explained the complaint based inspections tend to require more work and
conversations between both the tenant and the landlord.
Council Member Herman questioned if a landlord was immediately contacted if City
staff received a complaint.
Mr. Davis stated City staff would conduct the inspection first to determine if there was a
need for the landlord to be contacted. He explained if there was no violation there was
no need to invest additional time contacting the landlord.
Mayor Cummings stated it had been recommended by stakeholders that fees be higher
for complaint based inspections.
Mr. Davis stated that had been the consensus.
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Resolution 16-490 Accept & Direct Staff Implementation of Recommendations of
Walker Parking Consultants Study of Downtown Parking
MOTION: ADOPT (Pech; second, Allison-Aasby)
MOTION: DIVIDE RESOLUTION INTO TWO SECTIONS: A) EVERYTHING
EXCEPT PAID ON STREET PARKING B) PAID ON STREET
PARKING (Herman; second, Panske)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman,
Mayor Cummings
MOTION: ADOPT 16-490-A (Pech; second, Panske)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman,
Mayor Cummings
MOTION: LAYOVER 16-490 B (Pech)
LOST: NO SECOND
MOTION: LAYOVER AND HAVE CITY MANAGER REPORT BACK TO
COUNCIL (Pech; second, Herman)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Allison-Aasby, Panske, Stepanek, Pech, Palmeri, Herman,
Mayor Cummings
Council Member Herman questioned if the cost to implement the program was included
in the preliminary budget for 2017.
Jim Collins, Director of Transportation, explained the cost of the operating expenses was
included but it was anticipated that the capital costs would be shared with the BID.
Council Member Herman stated his concern was that citizens would not want to pay to
park downtown when they would be able to park at stores such as Target and Walmart
at no cost. He stated he believed the problem with parking was a signage issue as citizens
did not understand where lots were located. He explained he was concerned that there
would be significant investment into pay stations only to have them removed at a later
date due to the potential negative impact of paid parking downtown.
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Mr. Collins explained that citizens would be able to utilize off-street parking lots as an
option for free parking for two hour increments. He stated the first thirty minutes of on-
street parking would be free.
Council Member Herman questioned if citizens would need to locate a kiosk to enter
information.
Mr. Collins stated yes, for on-street parking, but not for use of the off-street parking lots.
He explained the BID supported paid parking as they believed it would better manage
supply, help promote the perception that the downtown area was a sought out
destination and the revenue generated would allow for the BID to discontinue
contribution towards the cost of parking.
Mr. Rohloff explained the BID had indicated they would be willing to fund
approximately $20,000 per year in respect to the capital costs. He stated City staff would
work to fit the costs into the CIP. He explained the costs were not presently included
within the CIP as the CIP had been prepared in July. He indicated the plan was to have
half of the funds come from the general obligation fund and the BID would fund the other
half.
Council Member Panske questioned who would fund the $400,000 for pay stations.
Mr. Rohloff indicated that was the total the City would share with the BID. He explained
the $200,000 portion the BID would be responsible for would be paid to the City over 10
years in $20,000 increments.
Council Member Panske questioned who would fund the cost of employees.
Mr. Rohloff indicated the City would be responsible for the employee cost. He stated the
Walker study demonstrated such cost would be offset by revenues from the parking
utility in addition to revenue generated by fines.
Mr. Collins explained the Walker study indicated that the operating income, after
expenses had been subtracted, amounted to approximately $50,000 per year. He stated
as the revenue accumulated it would be used to pay for upgrades and to pay back the
upfront capital cost.
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Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she was in support of Council Member Herman’s
comments. She explained she was also in support of the signage and believed it would
be helpful to those not familiar with the City. She stated she was not certain that paid
parking was an appropriate fit for the downtown area. She explained she believed that
if a citizen was not able to park in front of or on the same block as the store they wished
to visit they lost interest and did not visit the store. She stated if pay stations were
implemented a citizen would have to walk to the pay station and then return to their
vehicle to place their receipt in the window prior to visiting the store. She explained she
believed this may further dissuade people from shopping downtown. She stated she
struggled with the upfront capital cost of $400,000 knowing that the parking utility would
still remain underwater and paid parking had the potential to be removed in the future
if it was not a success. She explained she supported the overall plan but not the
expenditure.
Mr. Collins explained that the paid parking would not be ‘pay and display’. He stated
the system would use license plate readers. He explained an individual would go to the
pay station or to the mobile app and enter their license plate number and pay for the
session.
Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she understood that was a viable option for the
younger generation who would be familiar with that type of technology but other
demographics may struggle. She explained she had witnessed similar struggles at the
university where people could not figure out how the paid parking worked and ended
up driving away. She stated she was skeptical how many Oshkosh citizens and visitors
would want to use that option.
Mr. Collins indicated that if the plan moved forward there would be an educational
component. He stated Walker had shared what they had provided as an educational
piece in other municipalities and other recommendations on how to host demonstrations
and answer questions regarding the pay station and app. He explained he understood
there would be a learning curve.
Council Member Allison-Aasby questioned how often Walker recommended pay
stations within their studies.
Mr. Collins stated he was not aware of how often pay stations were recommended.
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Council Member Palmeri asked for an explanation of what the BID planned to contribute
towards the initial stages of the plan.
Mr. Collins indicated that the BID had stated they would contribute $200,000 over ten
years.
Mr. Rohloff stated when City staff had met with the BID it was explained that the BID
would need to make a good faith effort by committing to a significant capital contribution
for the plan to happen. He explained that Walker had not recommended a pay station
for Appleton which demonstrated that Walker did not have a ‘one size fits all’ approach
to their recommendations.
Mr. Collins stated the BID had a special board meeting regarding the Walker study and
had voted 6-0 in favor of implementing the plan. He explained he believed the BID
supported the Walker plan as it provided a potential for income to be generated to pay
towards the parking utility whereas the current plan did not offer that potential. He
stated he believed there was a consensus that the City should move forward with the
marketing and signage piece of the plan. He explained there was an option to continue
to operate the parking utility as it was currently being operated or adopt the paid parking
plan and commit to it for a length of time in an effort to generate revenue towards the
parking utility.
Council Member Herman stated there were a number of special events that prevented
citizens from parking downtown which would result in lost revenue. He questioned if
the lost revenue cost would then be passed on to the user groups. He stated he believed
the City should move forward with the other pieces of the plan for two years to see if
there was an impact on the attitude towards parking downtown before trying to
implement paid parking. He explained he believed if they implemented paid parking
now it would cause problems in the future.
Council Member Pech explained that Walker recommended instituting a fee structure to
assist in the usage of the parking. He stated the City could put up signage but if other
changes were implemented the same parking behaviors would continue. He explained
the free on street parking model did not include Oshkosh Police Department labor and
operating costs. He asked for an explanation of those costs.
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Mr. Collins explained that under the current free on street parking plan the Oshkosh
Community Service Officers enforce parking as time allows. He stated there was nobody
dedicated to enforce parking. He explained under the paid on street parking model it
was recommended to employ two 30 hour per week enforcement officers. He stated the
generated revenues would pay for the employment of those officers.
Mr. Rohloff explained that the Community Service Officers would do parking
enforcement if time allowed but would primarily concentrate on other support activities.
He stated under the current plan there was not revenue but also no expenditure. He
explained he understood it was a controversial issue.
Council Member Pech questioned how to adopt the resolution without accepting the paid
on street parking implementation expenditure.
Ms. Lorenson stated the resolution could be amended to remove the section pertaining
to paid on street parking.
Mr. Rohloff explained Council would be able to remove both references to paid parking
within the resolution and adopt the remainder.
Council Member Allison-Aasby explained she would like City staff to be aware of
whether or not the $400,000 would need to be included in the 2017 budget. She stated
she did not want to pick the resolution apart and leave the expenditure piece in limbo as
that made it difficult for City staff to budget.
Mr. Collins explained it would be helpful for City staff to know which route Council
would like to take. He stated if there was a change with the parking plan additional work
would need to be done with the parking ordinances. He explained there were two
models for the operating budget; one with paid parking and one without. He stated it
would be beneficial to know which model would be utilized ahead of final budget
decisions.
Mayor Cummings questioned if Council would need to discuss the elimination of paid
parking with the BID as the BID board had already agreed to it.
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Ms. Lorenson stated the BID’s decision was an advisory recommendation. She explained
Council was to make the final decision. She stated the amended resolution could be sent
back to the BID for review but it was not required for Council to do so.
Council Member Allison-Aasby asked for direction as to whether or not the decision
should be postponed until the following Council meeting to give the BID time for
discussion and review of the proposed amendment to the resolution.
Mr. Rohloff stated he did not recommend postponing the decision so City staff could
begin moving forward with the other pieces of the plan including signage. He explained
he thought it would be beneficial to meet with the BID regarding the paid parking
portion.
Ms. Lorenson explained Council could divide the resolution into parts ‘A’ and ‘B’; the
paid parking issue would be laid over for discussion with the BID and Council would
vote on the remainder of the plan.
Mr. Rohloff explained the paid parking portion would be laid over until discussion with
the BID and the parking utility. He recommended that Council not list a specific deadline
as schedules would need to be coordinated.
Council Member Herman questioned if there would need to be a workshop with the BID
or if Council members and City staff would attend a BID board meeting.
Council Member Pech asked for clarification if the motion would be to lay over the paid
parking portion until after such a date that the Council would be able to meet with the
BID and parking utility.
Ms. Lorenson stated yes.
Council Member Palmeri stated she believed it would be appropriate to hold a discussion
with the BID and the parking utility.
Mr. Rohloff recommended having a discussion with the BID and the parking utility
regarding the paid parking portion. He stated the paid parking portion of the resolution
could be brought back to Council after the discussion if that was the direction City staff
received.
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Council Member Allison-Aasby stated she felt it would be a courtesy to have the
discussion with the BID. She explained she believed the BID would understand Council’s
hesitation with the paid parking portion due to the proposed $400,000 expenditure.
Mr. Rohloff explained he would report back to Council with feedback from the BID.
C OUNCIL D ISCUSSION, D IRECTION TO C ITY M ANAGER AND F UTURE A GENDA
I TEMS
Mr. Rohloff stated the upcoming budget season would be a busy time.
Mayor Cummings reminded Council of the following workshops:
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All Day Budget Workshops on October 17 and 18 from 8:00 am until 4:30 p.m.
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Budget Workshop on November 2 from 5:00 p.m. until 7:00 p.m.
Council Member Allison-Aasby questioned what the ideal date was for the budget to be
complete for City staff.
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Mr. Rohloff stated it was Tuesday, November 22.
Council Member Allison-Aasby explained if Council had any recommendations to voice
them early so there were no surprises that would delay the process.
Council Member Pech questioned where copies of the budget were located.
Mr. Rohloff stated Council was provided copies and additional copies could be found at
the library and the City Clerk’s office as well as the City website.
C ITIZEN S TATEMENTS TO C OUNCIL
There were no citizen statements to Council.
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C OUNCIL M EMBER A NNOUNCEMENTS & S TATEMENTS
Council Member Palmeri stated the Day by Day Warming Shelter had an open house
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and would be opening for the season on Saturday, October 15. She explained the
open house would be from 10 a.m. until 2 p.m. at the shelter on High Avenue. She
encouraged the public to tour and help stock the shelter.
C ITY M ANAGER A NNOUNCEMENT AND S TATEMENTS
Mr. Rohloff stated with the addition of the new financial software he and City staff had
decided to extend the auditing contract with Schenck for an additional year. He stated
the agreement with Badger Laboratories was related to the pre-treatment program at the
pre-treatment plant. He reminded Council of the Public Information Meeting for the
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Jackson Street/Oregon Street Bridge scheduled for October 13 at the Oshkosh Senior
Center from 5:00 p.m. until 6:30 p.m.
Mr. Rabe stated he had a copy of the proposed ideas from the Department of
Transportation. He explained the Department of Transportation was in the process of
getting a website published that would include the information and alternatives that they
were advising as a part of the study. He stated the DOT had hoped to publish the website
within the week following the public information meeting.
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Mr. Rohloff explained Trick or Treat hours were 5:00 p.m. until 7:00 p.m. on October 31.
MOTION: ADJOURN (Allison-Aasby; second, Panske)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 7:03 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
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