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CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
Minutes
September 9, 2015
PRESENT: Angela Allen, Sharon Kipetz, Harold Buchholz, Shirley Brabender Mattox, Paul Arnold,
and David Buck
1. Call To Order
The meeting was called to order at 3:13 p.m. and a quorum was declared present.
2. Approval Of August 12, 2015 Meeting Minutes
Mr. Buchholz pointed out that on the bottom of Page 1 under item 4 that Ms.
Brabender Mattox was titled with a “Mr.” rather than a “Ms.” Ms. Brabender Mattox
motioned to approve the minutes as amended and Mr. Buchholz seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
3. Building Permit Review
Mr. Buck informed the commission that an owner from last month’s review, after
meeting with staff, came in and went over the Homeowner Tax Credit Information. The
commission discussed the installation of the mural attached to the side wall of 100 High
Avenue as it relates to being attached rather than painted onto the structure, which is
on the National Register. Ms. Brabender Mattox expressed concern that it was placed
over the “ghost sign” on that wall. Ms. Brabender Mattox also asked about the 10
window replacements at 315 Lampert. She stated it is a nice historic home and was
wondering if the six-over-six windows on the second floor were replaced at the same
size. Mr. Buck responded that they can change the window but are not allowed to
change the size of the opening significantly, per the design standards.
4. Schriber House Update
Mr. Buck stated that he spoke with the Director of the Paine Art Center and Garden,
who informed staff that things are progressing with Tammie DeVooght in forming a plan
to move the Schriber House. Tammie comes from family of house movers, so she has a
good sense of what is involved and the Paine is committed to supporting the move. He
stated that he is optimistic that they will be able to successfully move the house to the
vacant lot at the corner of Algoma and Arboretum in 2016. However, he would like the
commission’s assistance in trying to extend the historic district to include the house in
its new spot, perhaps along with the house next to it, or individually designate it as the
eligibility for tax credits will be essential in funding the improvements to the house that
are needed. He stated that he realizes there is no guarantee, but is hopeful that the
commission would assist. Mr. Buck said that he must make a call to the State Historical
Society to discuss. Ms. Allen asked if they would move forward if they were not eligible
to receive any credits. Mr. Buck replied that he was unsure. Ms. Brabender Mattox
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asked that she be included in a conference call to a WHS representative and Mr. Buck
stated he would set something up.
5. Great Neighborhood Fund Request – Chief Oshkosh Statue and “Burial Site” Update
Mr. Buck stated that approximately 6-8 applications for Great Neighborhood Funds
were submitted and that the Landmarks Commission application to install walkways,
sitting area, educational and wayfinder signage and ADA crosswalks/curb cuts at or near
the Chief Oshkosh monument and “burial site” had made it through the initial review
process and will be going to Council for actual funding determination soon. The
commission discussed the particulars of the requested project and pointed out that
lighting should be considered as well. Mr. Buck responded that lighting would be looked
at in the design phase of the project if it is funded.
6. Historic Building Plaque Program
a. Oddfellows Hall & Gibson Auto
Mr. Buck stated that these two plaques were received and that he was trying to
coordinate delivery/presentation with a few of the commissioners. The commission
stated that it is good to get pictures and place on social media.
b. Request for 617 Grove Street
A new application for a house plaque was received for 617 Grove Street. Mr. Buck
went over the information supplied by the owner/applicant that the craftsman style
house was built around 1922 and the evidence shows that the home was
constructed by Fluor Brothers Construction Company, which was a prominent
construction company in Oshkosh. The commission discussed the application
submittal, the history of the construction company and the history of Casper Fluor.
The commission determined that the home would not meet any of the architectural
style criteria but that it is eligible for a plaque based on 2 of the 7 criteria:
1. Its identification with a person or persons who significantly contributed to the
development of the city, and
2. Its identification as a work of a master builder, designer, or architect whose
individual work influenced the development of the city.
Motion to endorse the plaque was made by Ms. Brabender Mattox which was
seconded by Ms. Allen. Motion carried unanimously.
7. Riverfront Marker Update
a. Fishing & Railroads
Mr. Buck informed the commission that two more historic riverfront markers for
Fishing and Railroads have been installed. The Fishing Marker is located on the
south shore near the fishing rafts and in direct sight of the fishing pier. The Railroad
Marker is located on the north shore to the west of the Rivers Apartment Building
directly across from the new river walk that utilizes the spans from the former CN
Railroad Bridge that was removed a few years ago.
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b. Soliciting for Future Marker Sponsors
Mr. Buck stated that the Lakes and River System Marker is almost finished and should
go up next year but that no other markers are sponsored at this time and wanted the
commission to think about who can be approached to get another funded. Mr.
Buchholz suggested contacting the newspaper who can be utilized for advertising that
we need additional sponsors. Mr. Buck said that he has had initial discussion with the
University to sponsor an Educational Marker but that it slightly broke down in that the
content may be contentious because of University promotion versus historic content.
Ms. Brabender Mattox discussed the history of education in Oshkosh. Ms. Kipetz stated
that the University Foundation could be asked for funding and stated she would set up a
meeting with the University’s Planner and other relevant individuals to discuss the
subject.
8. Landmarking - HP Schmidt Milling Company at 50 W 6th Avenue
Mr. Buck explained that this property, known as the HP Schmidt Milling Company and
most frequently used as the Granary Restaurant and then Elements Night Club, was
purchased by a local developer who desires to rehab it. Mr. Buck explained that the
new owner plans to convert the building to be apartments and a restaurant/bar. Mr.
Buck explained there is a lot of work to be done and that building code requirements
will require him to cover up a lot of the interesting architectural features on the interior.
The developer has expressed interest in becoming a locally landmarked property in
order to utilize the historic building code for the rehab because he would like to
maintain the unique architectural features and has submitted the application. The
commission went over the information related to the property’s history and felt it is a
candidate for local landmarking as it:
1. Exemplifies an aspect of the cultural, political economic or social history of the
nation, state or community and
2. The property reflects distinctive and important elements of the City’s and State’s
architectural, archeological, cultural, social economic, ethnic or political history.
The commission discussed the process that needs to be followed for Local Landmarking
a property including the need to publish a notice, create a staff report and have a public
hearing before the Landmarks Commission, who then makes a recommendation to the
Plan Commission, who recommends to the Council for approval. The commission
discussed having a special meeting to hold the public hearing and Mr. Buck said he
would ask the applicant to see if it can be held at the next Landmarks meeting on
October 14th or if a special meeting would be needed.
9. Beckwith House Window Discussion
Mr. Arnold reiterated that contacts with previous contractors for the repair of the
second story windows was disappointing and that he felt bad that the commission has
been unable to assist the owners in getting estimates to fix rather than replace them.
The commission looked over a list of contractors that Ms. Allen had found and others
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that the city uses on many of their rehab projects. Ms. Allen said that she would check
with additional contractors to try to set-up another meeting to have someone look at
the windows themselves so estimates or even interest in the job can be determined.
10. Agenda Items for Next Meeting/Statements
Beyond the regular items such as building permit review, minutes and updates on the
ongoing programs, the commission asked that staff include the HP Schmidt Milling
Company Local Landmarking if a special meeting is unneeded, potentially the Beckwith
House, the mailing to historic property owners, and the Annual Report, if ready.
11. Adjournment
Ms. Kipetz made a motion to adjourn and the motion was seconded by Ms. Allen.
Motion approved unanimously and the meeting adjourned at 5:17 p. m.
Recorded by
David Buck, Principal Planner