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RESOLUTION
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WHEREAS, applications for licenses have been made, fees
deposited, and all legal procedures have been taken as per
Ordinance of the City of Oshkosh,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Common Council of
the City of Oshkosh that the following license be granted:
COMBINATIQN CLASS "B" LICENSE
(EXPIRES: JUNE 0, 1983)
NAME AND ADDRESS: LOCATION OF PREMISE5:
Judy's Gin Mill. . . . . . . . . . 1029 S. Main Street
Ronald Hebert, 1831 Plymouth Street
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The City Council, having acted as a licensing body pursuant to Section �,
176.05 (8) of the Wisconsin Statutes and in the consideration of the
charges levied against the license holder; the Council having heard
testimony presented by both the City and the license applicant; hereby
determines that the weight of the evidence presented at this Hearinq
�or(is not sufficientlto deny the license renewal applica-
tion of JUDY'S GIN MILL, Ronald Hebert, Jr., 619 West New York Avenue,
Oshkosh, Wisconsin, license holder.
I therefore move that the application for the license of JUDY'S GINF
MILL, Ronald Hebert, Jr., 619 West New York Avenue, Oshkosh, Wisconsin,
license holder is hereby approved/dea-ied. If the motion to deny is
made, the reasons for the denial should be made part of the motion.
I further move that the City Clerk be directed to attach a copy of his
minutes of the Hearing, together with this motion, to the iicense appli-
cation and keep said motion, application and minutes on file with the
IRlnutes o£ this meeting.- . � � �
PRotion: made by Kutchera, seconded by Teichmiller
Carried: Ayes (6) Noes (1)
COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS
Proceedings o� the Common Council of the City of Oshkosh,
Wisconsin.
SPECIAL MEETING held June 10, 1982 at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Council Members Chapin, Hulsebosch, Kutchera, Mather,
Propp, Teichmiller, Pung.
The Mayor stated the Special Meetiag was ca2led for a
Public Hearing on the issuing of a Combination Class "B" License
to Judy's Gin Mill, 1029 S. Main Street.
City Attorney John Pence read his opening statement:
The reason for this Hearinq tonight is that the City Council,
upon review of the police reports submitted to it, has refused
to approve the application for renewal of the license for Judy•s
Gin Mill, Ronald Hebert, Jr., 619 W. New York AVenue, Oshkosh,
Wisconsin, license holder.
Pursuant to Wisconsin Statutes, Section 176.05(8}, which requires
that any applica�ion for a license which is in existence at the
time of the annual license meeting may only be reje�ted if there
is a statement on the Clerk's minutes stating the reasons for
said rejection.
The United States District Court for the Eastern District of
Wisconsin has defined an exzstinq license which is sought for
re-application to consist of a property right and a d2nial of
sante requires the qranting, to the holder of said license, a due
process-type hearing with the folZowing minimal requirements.
1. Notice of charges upon which denial af the Zicense is
predicated.
2. An opportunity to respond to and challenge such charges.
3. An opportunity to present witnesses under oath.
4. An opportunity to confront and cross-examine opposing
witnesses under oath.
5. The opportunity to have a verbatim, written transcript
made upon his own initiative and expense.
6. That the conclusions made by the hearing body must be
upon the evidence adduced at the hearing.
Therefore, in the instance of the consideration or denial of the
license to Judy's Gin Mill, Ronald Hebert, Jr., 619 W. New York
Avenue, Oshkosh, Wisconsin, the Council has refused to approve
the license application based upon police reports, and said re-
ports make the basis of the charges herein.
The charges were drafted, a Notice of Hearing was served on the
said agent for Judy's Gin Mill (RonaZd Hebert., Jr.); said Notice
infromed the individuals of the riqht to have a due process
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hearing, set �orth the charges and stated his right to respond
to and cross -examine witnesses. An offer was further made to
furnish subpoenas to said license holder for the purpose of com-
manding witnesses to appear on his behalf. Said 2icense holder
was further notified of the right to have a verbatim, written
transcript made of the hearing if he was willing to sustain
the cost.
The Hearinq will now oroceed with the chief of Police, Donald
Utecht, coming forward to present nis testimony. I would request
the City Clerk to administer an oath to the Chief of Police and
to all succeeding witnesses, whether they be on behalf of the
City or on behalf of the applicant.
Mr. Pence noted that Mr. Ronald E. Hebert, Jr., the defend-
ant and his Attorney, Mr. John Kelly, I Pearl Avenue, Oshkosh,
were present. He noted one police report on July 27, 1981, for
being "open after hours" which carried a fine. He also said he
had subpoenaed Clayton Wehlman and Kenneth Monroe, signers on
the neighborhood petition.
The Chief of Police, Donald Utecht, was called and sworn
in by the City Clerk. Complaint and charges served on the de-
fender on May 26, 1982 by a Police Officer was marked at Exhibit
#1. There were no objections.
Attorney Pence reiterated the charges in the com-
plaint and Mr. Utecht described each. Only one,
#146789 on July 27, 1981 {open after hours) carried
a fine which was paid. He said after the petition
was filed, the office had a few complaints. It
appeared most of the complaints were for areas out-
side the tavern and outside after tavern closings.
Attorney Kelly said there were 16 complaints since
July 1, 1981, and the Chief of Police answered the
number is a little excessive, but some are unfounded.
Through the Chief's testimony it was determined that
prior to July 1, 1981 there were complaints of people
running across lawns; there have been no complaints
of under age serving or, prostitution. one of the
neighbors last June (1981) had damage done to his
back yard and scuffed with intruders. It was affirm-
ed that recently Ronald Hebert met with the Chief for
his advice in running his business and for better
relationship with the neighborhood.
Mr. Clayton A. Wehlman, 34 W. 12th Avenue, was called and
sworn in by tne City Clerk.
Attorney Pence verified that he was the circulator of
the petition in the surrounding neighbozhood. He asked
concerning the six reasons listed on the petition. On
call to the Police Department during occurrences, it
noted by Mr. Wehlman that when the police arrive, the
violators have already left.
Upon questioning by Attorney Kelly, Mr. Wehlman said
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he made calls to the Police a minimun of ten times.
He has not talked directly to Ronald Hebert.
Mr. Kenneth Monroe, 20 W. llth Avenue, was called and
sworn in by the City Clerk.
Attorney Pence veri£ied that he was a signer of
petition and detailed the reasons listed on the
petition. NIr. Nlonro related his own experience
"patrons" of the tavern looking in his windows
then cominq into his home, which, he said, led
their arrest.
Recess.
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Upon returning from recess, the Defense Attorney John Kelly
called his first witness, Mr. Robert A. Ashland, 1027 S. Main
Street (above the tavern) who was sworn in by the City Clerk.
He said he lives upstairs and does not find the noise
• excessive. Ae was also asked by Attorney Kelly to
ask this of the only other tenant, an 87 year old
Mrs. Ida Oestreich and she is not aware of excessive
noise or disturbances.
Mr. Ronald E. Hebert, Jr. (1029 S. Main Street, Judy's
Gin Mill Operator) 619 W. New York Avenue, was call and was
sworn in by the City Clerk.
Being questioned he said he is married, has two boys,
ages 2 and 5; and this is their sole support. He has
no knowledge of the fireworks incident (#5 in the
charges), nor had he been aware of the neighborhood
disturbances as they had not contacted him as far as
the crowd is concerned, he has now posted signs de-
signating no drinks should be consumed outside, no
noise in the coming and going, and no loud congestion
at the bar. His clientele come from all walks of life;
and he does have motorcycle riders, but not all belong
to a club. He has non-stop music, with four speakers
and is run a little more than average volume.
In answer to Attorney Pence, Mr. Hebert stated he
leases the entire buildinq and rents out the two
apartments.
Upon being questioned by the Council, Mr. Hebert
indicated he tended his'own bar afternoons and on
Monday evenings and that he was in and out throughout
the rest of the week.
At this point both Attorneys summed up their cases, the
Council had no more questions, and a decision was in order.
Council Member Kutchera stated the following:
The Council, having acted as a licensing body pursuant to Section
176.05(S) of the Wisconsin Statutes and in the consideration of
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the charges levied against the license holder; the Council
having heard testimony presented by both the City and the
License applicant; hereby determines that the weight of the
evidence presented at the Hearing is not sufficient to deny
the license renewal application of Judy's Gin Mill, Ronald
Hebert, Jr., 619 W. New York Avenue, Oshkosh, Wisconsin,
license holder.
I therefore move that the application for the license of Judy's
Gin Mill, Ronald Hebert, Jr., 619 W. New York Avenue, Oshkosh,
Wisconsin, license holder is hereby approved. If the motion
to deny is made, the reasons for the denial should be made part
of the motion.
2 further move that the City Clerk be directed to attach a copy
of his minutes of the xearinq, together with this motion, to
the license application and keep said motion, application and
minutes on file with the minutes of this meeting.
Motion made by Council Member Kutchera, seconded by Council
Member Teichmiller.
Motion made by Council Member Hulsebosch, that
there is sufficient evidence and the license should
be denied. Lost: No Second.
Carried: Ayes (6) Chapin, Kutchera, Mather, Propp, Teich-
miller, Pung. Noes (1) Hulsebosch.
Resolution to Approve Appointments, to various boards.
Motion made by Council Member Mather, seconded by Council
Member Chapin, to Adopt. Carried: Ayes (7) CHapin, Hulsebosch,
Kutchera, Mather, Propp, Teichmiller, Pung.
Motion made by Council Member Teichmiller, seconded by
Council Member Chapin, to Adjourn. Carried by Acclamation.
Meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
CONVERSE C. MARKS, CITY CLERK
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