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PARKING UTILITY COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 12, 2014
PRESENT: Chanda Anderson, Steve Herman, Mary Murken, Timothy Schuster, Jay Ratchman
STAFF: Jim Collins, Transportation Director
Lynn Lorenson, City Attorney
Marlene Binder, Secretary
CALL TO ORDER
Tim Schuster called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m.
ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES
Ms. Murken moved to accept the minutes from the previous, October 8, 2014, meeting. Mr. Herman
seconded the motion. Motion carried (5-0).
NEW BUSINESS
1. OVERNIGHT PARKING
Mr. Collins said he worked with the Planning Department and GIS to create a map of each parking lot.
Each colored map shows all the parking stalls within it and each are numbered which will help to clarify
exactly which parking space is being discussed. He says he has also been working with city attorney Lynn
Lorenson to make the ordinances more consistent throughout the city. Presently overnight parking is
addressed in the Municipal Code in the section for city lots with parking for two hours or less where it
states it is prohibited. However the 8th Avenue and High Avenue parking lots have two hour parking but
overnight parking is not addressed. The Ceape Avenue lot has signs prohibiting parking from 2:00 a.m. to 5
a.m. but there is not an ordinance stating this. He said he and the attorney thought for consistency one
ordinance prohibiting parking from 2:00 a.m. to 5 a.m. for all city parking lots would be less confusing than
present ordinances. Vehicles in leased or permitted parking spaces would be able to park overnight.
Ms. Lorenson said she had discussion with other staff about a scenario where someone had too much to
drink and needed to leave their vehicle parked overnight. It was also mentioned that a tenant in a residential
unit downtown may have a guest stay through the night and they would need to park their car overnight.
She also said that parking spaces that have permits or are leased should be more protected than free parking
areas.
Mr. Ratchman said he is in favor of the no parking 2:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. because when a plow has to plow
around a car left in the lot, the deep snow left there will stay there. The plow does not come back till the
next snowstorm and in the meantime no one will park in that space.
Mr. Herman asked if during a snow emergency if people were directed to park in a public lot. Ms. Lorenson
responded that she thought that one night parking was allowed on the even house numbered side and the
next night parking was allowed on the odd numbered side of the street. Mr. Schuster said that police have
not been real aggressive with ticketing and towing during snow emergencies in recent years but did recall in
the 90's when they had all available wreckers towing cars.
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Mr. Herman agreed for consistency it would be best to prohibit overnight parking in all city lots. Mr.
Collins said most of the lots are already posted and if someone has a need to park overnight they can obtain
a permit and be allowed overnight parking. Mr. Schuster inquired the cost of a parking ticket. Mr. Herman
replied a parking ticket costs $15.00. Mr. Ratchman inquired if bar owners could purchase parking permits
for their patrons that had overindulged. Mr. Schuster confirmed that someone able to drive could park the
vehicle in a leased space. Mr. Herman suggested that this might be communicated to bar owners through
the BID.
Ms. Lorenson stated she and Mr. Collins will draft an ordinance and bring it back for a vote, but they
wanted the Commission to have input.
2. FOLLOW-UP ON FREE PARKING IN PERMIT PARKING STALLS ON SATURDAYS IN
ADDITION TO NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS
Mr. Collins says the municipal code says permit parking is enforced daily except weekends and holidays.
Mr. Schuster asked when the weekend starts. Mr. Collins clarified that the weekend starts 6:00 pm Friday
night and ends 9:00 am Monday morning. He said this ordinance is already in place, the department will
need to change the existing signs.
3. FOLLOW-UP ON PARKING TIME LIMIT ENFORCEMENT
Mr. Collins says the time limit parking is enforced 7:00 am to 6:00 pm daily except Sundays and Holidays.
He thought businesses would want enforcement on Saturday because someone could park all day. Mr.
Ratchman said the signs say 9:00 am to 6:00 pm. Ms. Anderson expressed that she does not want
enforcement on Saturday in the downtown parking lots. She went on to say that there is no one designated
to enforce at that time anyway.
Mr. Ratchman said he received complaints from customers that do not go to the Farmer's Market. He said
that vendors for this event park from 7:00 am to 2:00 pm. He explained enforcement should be consistent
throughout the day and not begin after the Farmer's Market ended, hence penalizing customers of the
businesses.
Mr. Collins said he and Ms. Lorenson will draft an ordinance and bring it back for a vote.
4. PERMIT LOCATION
Mr. Collins said the monthly leased permits are placed in rear window, monthly permit placed on driver's
side rear bumper, yearly permits placed in driver's side rear window, daily permits go in the front. He said
he would like to standardize placement of all permits. He explained that it will take time to phase in the new
and phase out the old.
Mr. Herman suggested color coded permits that could be placed on the rearview mirror so it is visible even
if the vehicle is backed into the parking space and hence make enforcement easier. Mr. Ratchman pointed
out that some revenue may be lost due to the fact that one can move it from vehicle to vehicle where
previously a permit needed to be purchased for each vehicle.
Mr. Collins said the daily permits would remain as is but the other permits would be the new design and it
would take some time to cycle through. We would need to pick a date to issue the new permits and change
the municipal code regarding the placement.
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STAFF STATEMENTS
Mr. Collins said last month the Commission asked him to check the cost of an overnight parking permit. He
learned that the only overnight permit is sold by the Police Department for $10.00 per month. Annually the
revenue from these overnight parking permits is about $19,000.00. He says Neenah has seasonal parking
and does not charge for overnight parking and Appleton has no overnight parking.
Mr. Collins said city manager, Mark Rohloff, and he are planning to attend the next BID meeting. He
explained the main issue is the Parking Utility is not financially sustainable. The BID initially contributed
$40,000.00 annually to the Parking Utility to support the free parking, which in recent years has been down
to $18,000.00. This year the BID has proposed to pay $15,00.00, in exchange for 1,000 permits. He said the
BID’s reasoning is they contributed $5,000.00 for the parking study, and maintain the planters downtown.
Mr. Collins said the permits were to be used by customers only but explained that it would be difficult to
identify whether or not these permits were actually being used by customers. The needs of the parking lots,
their reconstruction and maintenance, are not going to go away so we need some support from the BID.
Ms. Murken said pay and display would be an option and Mr. Herman added that selling the parking lots is
another option. Mr. Collins said after the parking study is completed the City will look for a long term
solution. He went on to say that over the past couple years the City has spent about $2,000,000.00 on
parking lots, with approximately $800,000.00 spent on the Riverside Lot. He said next year there is another
$500,000.00 in the capital improvement plan for parking lots. He pointed out the City has continued to
invest in parking and that because the Parking Utility is not sustainable; the City has been using its general
fund to pay on the debt service for these improvements.
Ms. Anderson pointed out there was no need to be concerned about the number of permits issued the BID
because the BID will sell these to the businesses. Mr. Herman added that this is a contentious issue with the
Council because the businesses that purchase these from the BID already paid for these permits through
their assessments to the BID. Mr. Collins said there will be more discussion about this with the Planning
Department before the BID meeting. Mr. Herman said there has been a lack of communication between the
City and the BID in the past. He went on to say that going forward the City and the BID need to work
together with the Convention Center, Visitor's Bureau, and Grand Opera House to promote downtown
Oshkosh and plan for integration of business, professional development, and residential units.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no other business to come before the Parking Utility Commission, and upon being duly
moved and seconded (Murken, Anderson), the meeting adjourned at 4:58 p.m.