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CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
MINUTES
JULY 01, 2014
PRESENT: Dennis Arnold, Shirley Brabender Mattox, Sharon Kipetz, and Steve Cummings
EXCUSED: Vicky Redlin, Angela Merrill and Karen Heikel
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Arnold called the meeting to order at 8:34 am and a quorum was declared present. Mr. Arnold
requested that the items on the agenda be taken in reverse order. Request was seconded by Ms. Kipetz.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Buck explained that this special meeting was taking place because two redevelopment projects are
going before the Plan Commission for exterior improvements to historic buildings and the Landmarks
Commission recommendations were needed. Additionally, another historic building’s grounds have had
an emergency and they are requesting that the Landmarks Commission advise them on the best way to
proceed on needed immediate safety repairs.
2. REVIEW OF REPAIRS OF WINDOW WELLS AT 224 STATE STREET
(NORTHWESTERN BUILDING)
Mr. Buck explained that the glass block used to cover a window well located between the pillars of the
west side of the Daily Northwestern Building has caved in/collapsed, creating a safety hazard for
pedestrians and exposing the basement window to the elements. The property owner does not need the
well to be retained and the below grade portion of the building is not used but they are asking if the glass
block has any historic significance and if covering the window well would have a negative effect on the
building itself. The Commission reviewed the site itself, multiple photographs of the building and the
condition of the window wells as well as reviewed the Wisconsin Historical Society Inventory on the
building. The Commission examined the information and stated that the window wells themselves were
not actually part of the building. They also determined that the multiple window wells of the building had
been covered, potentially multiple times in the past, with a variety of products including concrete, glass
block and grating and that the lower is not visible by the pubic or accessible. The Commission discussed
to what degree the window wells had on the historic elements of the building and discussed multiple
options to safely secure the well. They suggested that the use of the block was not historic and suggested
simply closing them off at grade with concrete to match the walk and other previously closed wells but
that a historic grate system would also work if desired. If more specific suggestions were desired, the
Commission recommended the owners temporarily secure the situation and contact a preservation
architect and the Wisconsin Historical Society for guidance.
3. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVIEW FOR AN EXCEPTION TO PROVISIONS
OF THE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT; 570 NORTH MAIN STREET
(VARSITY CLUB)
Mr. Buck stated that the property owner is requesting an exception to the building design
standards of the Downtown Overlay District. He added that this is a contributing property within
the North Main Street Historic District and was the site of Gibson Auto Exchange, which was
constructed about 1921. The front facade has been significantly altered over the years, with the
removal of all glass window storefront and the garage door and the addition of a double door
entry, two awnings and an exterior insulation and finishing system first floor façade with three
fixed windows.
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Mr. Buck stated the applicant is proposing to remodel the interior with the area adjacent to the
entrance being used for dry storage and a walk-in cooler for the existing bar/restaurant. With the
interior work, four exterior alterations/changes are being proposed that will require exceptions to
the design standards. The four exterior changes include: 1) Removal of the existing double door
entrance on the north and replacing it with a faux wood garage door, which is consistent with
garage service doors of that era; 2) Replacement of the single door entrance on the south with a
double door entrance. This change will make these doors the only entrance to the business.
Handicap accessibility improvements will also be included in this modification; 3) Relocation of
an existing wide signed awning from the north entrance to the south entrance. With the
relocation of the double door entrance to the south entrance, the petitioner proposes to move the
awning from the north entrance to the south entrance, and remove the single door awning on the
south; and 4) Replace two-thirds of the exterior insulation and finishing system (EIFS) with
glass storefront windows. The original historic storefront consisted of a set of four full story
glass windows separated from the rest of the building with vertical columns. The current
storefront consists of 3 smaller square windows and the applicant proposes to remove 2 of the
windows and install four windows that would be similar to the historic storefront look. One
small square window is proposed to remain as this area is adjacent to the kitchen.
Regarding the doors, Mr. Buck felt the faux wood door on the north and the double door
entrance on the south would greatly improve the looks of the exterior and bring it closer in looks
to its original historic appearance though a photograph of that door was unattainable, the owner
has researched garage doors of that era and is attempting to replicate what was a common style.
Regarding the awnings, Mr. Buck noted that both awnings are considered legal non-conforming.
Removing the smaller of the awnings will bring the property closer to compliance. If approved,
the double wide awning could be moved to the south entrance and retain a legal nonconforming
status thereby requiring it to be removed or brought into compliance with the code if the awning
were to be damaged or replaced in the future.
Regarding the front window replacement, Mr. Buck expressed staff’s opinion that unless all the
exterior insulation and finishing system were removed in its entirety and the storefront windows
installed across the center section of the building that, even though the new windows would be
more historic in nature, that leaving one window surrounded by exterior insulation and finishing
system would appear piecemeal or incomplete in appearance and that staff would recommend the
center section of the façade remain as-is if not done comprehensively.
Mr. Buck noted that since the building is in the North Main Street Historic District, even though
it has been significantly altered over the years, that the Landmarks Commission review will be
forwarded to the Plan Commission and Council. The Commission agreed with staff’s
assessment of the improvements and believed that the alterations were much more in keeping
with the original look of the building but that it needed to include the entire class storefront over
only a portion. They added that they are encouraged that the property owner is interested in
bringing the look and exterior configuration of the original building back and hoped he would go
a bit further. They suggested that the owner contact the State Historical Society to see if their
work plan would be eligible for tax credits and that they should also contact Bergstrom's who
may have a picture of the original Gibson Auto Exchange storefront, which might be helpful as
the applicant makes the exterior improvements, especially the choice of the faux garage door.
Ms. Brabender Mattox asked if the second story brick casing will remain intact. Mr. Arnold
stated that it is shown on the plans but it has been discolored over time and he suggested staff
inform the owner of appropriate cleaning techniques. Ms. Kipetz motioned to approve the
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recommendation of staff. The motion was seconded by Mr. Cummings. Motion carried
unanimously.
4. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVIEW FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE
PROVISIONS OF THE DOWNTOWN OVERLAY DISTRICT; 401 NORTH MAIN
STREET (NEW MOON CAFÉ)
Mr. Buck stated that the property owners are requesting a conditional use permit for an exception
to the building design standards of the Downtown Overlay District to replace windows on the
second story apartments with windows that do not match the historic windows in size, shape and
arrangement of panes and materials. He added that the property at 401 North Main Street
contains the New Moon Cafe in the first floor, and apartments in the upper floor. The building is
located in the National Register North Main Street Historic District and is considered a pivotal
structure. After receiving complaints from the upstairs tenants regarding the poor condition of
the windows, the owners contacted Lueck's Home Improvements to assess the condition of the
existing upper floor windows. Lueck's determined the windows were in poor condition and that
22 of the 23 windows be replaced. The existing windows are 101 inches in length with an
arched top and the owner feels to replace the windows with the same size would be cost
prohibitive. Lueck's proposal is to install 72 inch vinyl double hung windows with a 26 inch
fixed transom glass section at the top with filler to square off the arched top.
In reviewing the request, Mr. Buck noted staff analyzed the window replacements from the
standpoint of the buildings architectural integrity and style, as well as the character of the Main
Street/Algoma Blvd. streetscape and overall conditions of other buildings in the downtown area,
specifically window replacements that had been completed in the past. The petitioner is
attempting to retain as much of the architectural integrity as possible and they felt the impact of
the replacement windows is considered to be minimal as the structures window openings and
casings will remain intact providing the ability to replace the windows with specialty windows in
the future.
Mr. Cummings asked if specialty windows that match the existing could be built. Mr. Arnold
responded that they definitely could but at a higher cost. Mr. Arnold added that in his experience
the lower sash typically go bad but the top arched area are often in decent shape and he thought
the property owner has not fully investigated options for repair or more suitable replacement and
that they should be looking for quotes from other companies to determine if the existing
windows can be restored/retained. Mr. Cummings agreed that it did not appear that the owner
did a suitable investigation. Ms. Brabender Mattox said she would like the opportunity for the
Landmarks Commission to work with the State and the owner to find other companies and/or
contractors that could repair the windows or provide a better match on replacement. Mr. Arnold
said it is unfortunate that many other buildings in the district have had poor replacements done in
the past but this needs to stop going forward. Ms. Kipetz also stated that she would like to see
alternate options investigated as it is easy to say that the costs are too high when you only get
one quote, especially from a window replacement company. Mr. Arnold said that the building is
one of what he would say are five pivotal buildings downtown and Mr. Cummings added that the
city should not manage by exception but hold true to the historic integrity of our districts. Ms.
Brabender Mattox asked if the owners had investigated tax credits as a way to offset the cost of
appropriate replacements or of repair and retention. Mr. Buck was not sure if the owners had
investigated tax credits.
The Landmarks Commission is of the opinion that it is a pivotal building and has significant
historic value on both North Main Street and Algoma Boulevard. Ms. Kipetz made the motion to
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request that the Plan Commission lay the item over to allow Landmarks members time to work
with the owner in identifying windows that would be a better fit for the building and the Historic
District. Motion seconded by Mr. Cummings. Discussion took place that the city can’t manage
by exception and that the standards need to be upheld, especially on a pivotal building with two
primary fronts being affected. They hope that the item is tabled to give them time to work with
the owners to identify alternatives including repair and also to investigate the viability of
utilizing State and Federal tax credits.
5. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Cummings motioned to adjourn. Motion was seconded by Ms. Brabender Mattox. Motion approved
unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 9:29 am.
Respectfully Submitted,
David Buck, Principal Planner