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CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
MINUTES
DECEMBER 11, 2013
PRESENT:
Vicky Redlin, Dennis Arnold, Shirley Brabender Mattox, Karen Heikel, Sharon Kipetz,
Steve Cummings and Angela Merrill
EXCUSED:
None
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. CALL TO ORDER
Ms. Redlin called the meeting to order at 3:06 pm and a quorum was declared present.
2. APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 13, 2013 MEETING MINUTES
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Mr. Arnold motioned to approve the meeting minutes of November 13 as presented. Motioned
seconded by Ms. Heikel. Minutes were approved unanimously.
3. BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW
Mr. Buck discussed the work at 519 Franklin and the status of its sale/ownership. General discussion on
the changes to the home over the years took place. Mr. Buck stated that the owners were informed about
the tax credit availability but they were uninterested. Ms. Heikel commented that 428 Church Avenue
was being resided from the original wood to vinyl, which could be bad if done poorly. Mr. Arnold agreed
and said that it could be done in a historically sensitive manner if the right style and color was chosen but
that the work had not been done yet and he expected it would be next spring. Mr. Arnold suggested that
the contractor or owner be called to discuss covering the wood siding rather than replacing it. Ms.
Brabender Mattox inquired if we knew why they are choosing to replace rather not paint/reuse and Mr.
Buck replied that he did not. Mr. Buck mentioned that Allen Davis, Director of Community
Development and John Zarate, Chief Building Official will be at the January meeting to discuss what
information is included with permit applications as well as other topics the Commission would have. Ms.
Brabender Mattox said that she fears loss of historic integrity through incremental change. Ms. Merrill
stated that if the permit was applied for early enough or if it is a series of renovations that there should be
sufficient time to supply enough information to understand the proposed work. Ms. Brabender Mattox
asked if we could do a tax abatement program for historic renovation. Mr. Buck stated that he believed
that was not possible in Wisconsin. Mr. Cummings added that getting the information on tax credits to
the owner before permit issuance could be the attention grabbing and incentive to get the correct
information in and added that topics to discuss with Allen and John should include a potential residential
TIF and the value of improvements versus historic preservation.
4. HISTORIC PLAQUE REQUEST-1306 WASHINGTON AVENUE
General discussion took place on the required eligibility criteria of the home associated with the building
plaque application. Mr. Buck said the home is known as the George Caswell House and described that it
is a Tudor Revival style house constructed in 1936. He added that it has retained most of the Tudor
Revival features including the large chimney, steeply pitched gables, patterned stonework, multiple
materials including half timber exposed framing, taller grouped windows and patterned stonework
entrance cladding. Information provided including that the ownership was originally George Caswell of
Caswell Factory Supply Company and then primarily by the Minniear family until 2011 when it was
purchased by the current owner.
A motion was made by Ms. Heikel to approve the application for 1306 Washington Avenue as it is a
contributing structure within the Washington Street Historic District as well as its characteristic of the
Tudor Revival style and its value in retaining architectural elements showing its significance. Motion was
seconded by Mr. Cummings. Motioned carried 6 ayes-0 nayes-1 abstention.
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LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR 531 N MAIN ST REDEVELOPMENT
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Mr. Buck went over a project for the relocation of the Neleven/DealerFire Corporate Headquarters into
531 North Main Street, which is historically known as the Frank Percey Gun and Fur House. He added
that the building is commercial vernacular and was built in 1900 with an addition in 1907 and it is a
contributing structure of the North Main Street Historic District. Mr. Buck stated that the Landmarks
Commission has been asked to consider providing a letter of support for a WEDC Community
Development Investment Grant application for which historic preservation is a criterion. Mr. Buck stated
that plans have not yet been submitted but believes they will be brought to the Commission in January.
Following discussion it was motioned by Ms. Kipetz to draft a letter of general support and highlight how
the preservation and relocation of a new business into a historic building and district is a development
“positive” and that the Commission looks forward to working with the owners on any exterior renovation.
Motion was seconded by Ms. Brabender Mattox. Motion carried unanimously.
6. ANNUAL REPORT
Mr. Buck distributed and went over the draft copy of the annual report for review and comment before
finalization. Mr. Arnold motioned to approve the annual report with Mr. Cummings seconding. Ms.
Brabender Mattox suggested an amendment to add language to the end of the CR Meyer Acanthus Award
text to include “, many of which are on the National Register of Historic Places”. Amended motion was
agreed to by Mr. Arnold and seconded by Mr. Cummings. Amended motion approved unanimously.
7. GOALS FOR 2014
Mr. Buck distributed the 2013 goal list including the Commissioners who are working on them. He also
provided past goal lists ranging from 2008 to present and asked that the Commissioners look them over
and develop a new goal list for discussion at the January meeting. Mr. Buck suggested that the
Commission try to limit the items to a half dozen or so but said that they should not be concerned with
dropping or adding former goals based on their desired work program for the upcoming year.
8. WORKING GROUPS
a. Website
– Mr. Buck explained that there were three chronologies included in last meetings packets.
Ms. Redlin suggested that all three timelines be consolidated into one to update the website. Ms. Kipetz
said that she wants to update the housing styles section as many of the examples were not very good
representations or the homes of the photos used were modified. Ms. Brabender Mattox stated that the
State Historical Society’s website will have photos of Oshkosh homes that can be searched by style and
community.
Ms. Brabender Mattox suggested that the annual report be included on the website.
Ms. Kipetz mentioned that she hopes to investigate the use of a mobile application for access to touring
brochures and other Landmarks information. She anticipated having much more detail by the end of
February.
b. Tourism/Brochures
– Ms. Redlin said she had been looking at timelines and the old brochures and
will be updating the main brochure with new photographs. Mr. Buck asked if the working group has still
been in contact with the Convention and Visitor Bureau. Ms. Redlin said that she has been and after the
information is updated then the design can be drafted. She will be meeting with the CVB regarding
funding a small printing of the brochure and we can then put it on the website and set up tours.
c. Historic Marker/Plaque Program
– Mr. Buck mentioned the status of the building plaques approved
at the last meeting and the names proposed for them. He also went over the progress of advertising for a
Limited Term Employee to do the research on the historic markers program. Mr. Cummings stated that
the Winnebago County Archeological and Historical Society is also considering a marker program and
hope to work with the Community Foundation to do more of a regional program.
Ms. Kipetz stated that she will be attending a Washington Avenue Christmas party and would like some
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historic structure plaque brochures and the plaque sample to hand out and show. Mr. Buck stated he
would give her some following the meeting.
d. Grant/Budget
– No report except there will be $500 for a mailing in 2014. It was mentioned that
there may be many grants available for historic preservation and tourism and that Commissioners should
keep their eyes open for any that will go with the 2014 goals. Ms. Brabender Mattox said she was
interested in trying to get historic designation for a neoclassical commercial district on Washington
Avenue just east of Main Street. Mr. Buck suggested that the Commission come up with a detailed
program and budget and request the funding each year connecting it with economic development,
neighborhood revitalization and/or tourism.
e. Riverside Cemetery
– No report but discussion took on beginning the cemetery working group again
in spring with an initial meeting with Bill Sturm. Discussion took place on the status and condition of the
chapel.
f. Historic Bar Elements –
No report.
9. AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING/COMMISSIONER STATEMENTS
Mr. Buck mentioned that the goals for 2014 will be an item as well as discussion with Mr. Davis and Mr.
Zarate. 531 North Main plans may also be on depending on plans being submitted. Mr. Cummings
offered to bring photographs of historic structures and other program materials he picked up on his trip
down south.
10. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Cummings motioned to adjourn. Motion was seconded by Mr. Arnold. Motion approved
unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 4:38 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
David Buck, Principal Planner
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