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MINUTES
SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD
October 7, 2013
PRESENT:
Kim Biedermann, Aaron Campbell, Margy Davey, Jan Scalpone, Nikki Stoll, Bob
Breest, Michelle Bogden Muetzel, Samara Hamze
ABSENT:
Tom Pech
STAFF:
Elizabeth Schultz, Assistant Planner
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 4:02 p.m. by Chair Margy Davey.
APPROVE MINUTES
Motion by Aaron Campbell and second by Kim Biedermann to approve the minutes from the last meeting as
submitted. Motion carried.
LAWRENCE STAHOWIAK, OSHKOSH FOOD CO-OP
Lawrence Stahowiak, Paul Van Auken, and Sabina Bastias from the Oshkosh Food Co-Op Board of
Directors were present to give an update.
Mr. Stahowiak explained that the group is currently conducting a membership drive to identify 100
founding members, which to date they have secured over 25% of their goal. Monies obtained from the drive
will assist with the completion of a feasibility study to determine the best site for the store.
Ms. Hamze questioned why a feasibility study was the next step before opening.
Mr. Van Auken explained that the group has done research into best practices for co-ops and is working
with the Food Co-Op Initiative, a non-profit in Minnesota that assists groups wishing to establish a food co-
op in their community. Based on these resources, the Board of Directors felt a feasibility study was
necessary to help ensure success once the doors finally open.
Ms. Hamze followed up by asking what benefits the entire community would receive by having a co-op in
Oshkosh.
Mr. Stahowiak explained the food desert that has been identified in Oshkosh’s central city area. The co-op
will hopefully mitigate this and bring fresh food to the residents of this area.
Mr. Van Auken further discussed the organizational structure of a food co-op and the unique advantages
that come along with becoming a founding member.
RANDY JOHNSTON, OAKLAWN SCHOOL
Randy Johnston, Facilities Maintenance Director of the Oshkosh Area School District, gave an update on
the newly completed 68,000 square foot elementary school.
Mr. Johnston explained that the site contains 70 geothermal wells with 5 energy recovery units to regulate
the building temperature. Forty-five heat pumps supply each class room and office area with temperature
regulation. Throughout construction 60 tons of waste was diverted from the landfill.
Mr. Johnston is working with an outside firm to commission the building which will take about a year to
complete. They are confident that the project will reach LEED Gold Certification.
COMMUNITY GARDEN EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE
Board members finalized the community garden educational signage draft and agreed to work with
community garden organizations to find locations before the signs are printed.
A motion was made by Ms. Biedermann and second by Mr. Campbell to approve the community garden
signage with the conditions that the comma usage is consistent and one of the photos is updated. Motion
carried 8-0.
SHORELAND RESTORATION UPDATE
Ms. Scalpone explained that Justin Mitchell has continued to work on the Shoreland Restoration site.
Recently, 30 volunteers met to clean up and install 160 new plants throughout the site. Mr. Mitchell would
like to develop a long range plan for the site and work to establish a group that can formally adopt the site to
continue to manage the operation.
APPROVE RESOLUTION 13-01 DIVEST FROM FOSSIL FUELS
Ms. Bogden Muetzel explained that the subcommittee used examples from other communities and
organizations wishing to divest from fossil fuels to draft the proposed resolution.
Ms. Biedermann asked why five years was selected as the target date.
Mr. Campbell explained that this timeframe was consistent with other resources used by the subcommittee.
Ms. Bogden Muetzel added that the resolution is conservative and asks that no new investments in fossil
fuels be made and to work over the next 5 years to find out if current investments can be moved.
Motion by Ms. Scalpone and second by Mr. Breest to forward the resolution to the City Manager for review.
Motion carried 8-0.
NEXT MEETING MONDAY, DECEMBER 2nd
Chair Davey reminded the Board of the next meeting.
ADJOURN
Motion by Ms. Biedermann and second by Ms. Hamze to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried. Meeting
adjourned at 5:00 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
Elizabeth Schultz
Assistant Planner
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CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
MINUTES
OCTOBER 9, 2013
PRESENT:
Vicky Redlin, Karen Heikel, Dennis Arnold, Shirley Brabender Mattox, Sharon Kipetz and
Angela Merrill
EXCUSED:
Steve Cummings, Conor McGee
1. CALL TO ORDER
Ms. Redlin called the meeting to order at 3:37 pm and a quorum was declared present. Ms. Redlin
introduced Angela Merrill, the new Landmarks Commissioner. Ms. Merrill gave some background about
herself.
2. APPROVAL OF AUGUST 28, 2013 & SEPTEMBER 11, 2013 MEETING MINUTES
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Mr. Arnold motioned to approve the meeting minutes of August 28 as presented. Motioned seconded
by Ms. Redlin. Minutes were approved unanimously.
Mr. Arnold mentioned that the discussion under Item 6.c that the reference should be for Mr. Radig is
writing a book on “grocery stores” rather than “groceries”. Ms. Brabender Mattox stated she has spoke
with him in the past casually but has not officially as of yet. She also added that under Item 2 (at the
bottom of the page) that the City Attorney’s answer is not clear that cities being able to absolve
themselves from landmark properties as they can pass amendments to codes. Ms. Redlin asked that staff
ask for clarification on code amendments. Ms. Kipetz motioned to approve the meeting minutes of
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September 11 with changes. Ms. Brabender Mattox seconded the motion, which was approved
unanimously.
3. BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW & DISCUSSION
Ms. Brabender Mattox commented that several of the projects are significant such as the roof of the
Wagner Opera House. She was interested to see if the owners were interested in getting tax credits and if
anyone from staff had informed them of their availability? She added that 456 North Main Street is
adding awnings and replacement windows and when the project comes forward do they follow and meet
the design standards for the Downtown Overlay and if that will improve the credibility of the historic
district. Discussion took place about if the windows on the second floor had been previously replaced.
Mr. Arnold mentioned that the first floor had been altered already and that the windows on the second
may have been replaced in the past. The awning appeared to be more traditional and that it is only going
on the north building as to separate the two from each other. Ms. Brabender Mattox stated that she would
rather have the original façade replicated rather than a “Disney” façade improvement such as the fill that
is replacing what would have been the transom windows on the south building. Ms. Redlin asked if
South Main Street is included in the Downtown Overlay. Ms. Brabender Mattox answered that it is just
North Main Street. The Commission attempted to determine what specific nine windows are being
replaced on 903 Oregon Street. The Commission requests a copy of the Downtown Overlay Design
Standards. Ms. Merrill was asked and commented on Milwaukee’s policy giving recommendations on
changes prior to the construction and providing a Certificate of Appropriateness but that if the work is not
affecting original building content that the recommendation would reflect that. Ms. Brabender Mattox
suggests that whenever a building in the North Main Street Historic District is altered that an image of the
original should be provided to determine if the improvements are advancing the historic integrity or
hindering it. Ms. Kipetz questioned if the Merritt Avenue driveway work was done before the permit?
Mr. Arnold said that the permits are sometimes taken after the project begins.
4. ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE – REVIEW WORKGROUP
Mr. Arnold stated that he attended the zoning workgroup meeting and stated that it is interesting to hear
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the comments of other commissions and boards and what problems they face. He added that at this point
the Landmarks Commission Historic Preservation Ordinance would be addressed as a separate effort.
Ms. Brabender Mattox feels that Landmarks should attend to keep historic interests in play. It was
determined that Ms. Redlin, Mr. Arnold and Ms. Brabender Mattox are all willing to attend.
5. WORKING GROUPS
Ms. Redlin suggested that Ms. Merrill listen to the Work Group discussions to determine if there are any
she would be interested in. The Commission went over who was working on each. Ms. Redlin
mentioned that the reports should actually have a goal to keep the groups on task.
a. Website
– Ms. Kipetz said that she has a student back working so for the next meeting she will have
some updated timeline items, focusing on buildings primarily. She also suggested that the Commission
use different homes to showcase styles as many that are on there now have been really altered. The
Commission discussed if they should consider having a section on a “preserved” house and an “altered”
house as it shows the differences.
b. Tourism/Brochures
– No report.
c. Historic Marker/Plaque Program
– Ms. Brabender Mattox asked what the list of topics are for the
Markers and that she will speak with Dan Radig to see if he could assist with these items. The
Commission questioned if a member could participate via internet or phone and not be physically present.
Ms. Brabender also stated she approached Jim Backus to see if they would be “advisors” on items as we
need a historian to assist with projects. Discussion took place on research for the new applicants for
plaques.
d. Grant/Budget
– Ms. Brabender Mattox stated her goal is to apply for another grant to get another
historic district researched. Ms. Redlin asked if the Masons had been contacted as they are interested in
designating their temple to help rehab without destroying the structures historic integrity and that the
temple could even be a “hub” of a larger district. They are worried about the cost however. Ms. Redlin
suggested maybe going to one of their board meetings.
e. Riverside Cemetery
– No report but discussion on reviving the efforts to promote and preserve the
chapel took place including the possibility of doing interior rehab utilizing students or other volunteer
groups. It was determined that a tour of the cemetery and chapel would be good and maybe hold a
meeting there.
f. Historic Bar Elements –
No report.
6. AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING/COMMISSIONER STATEMENTS
The Commission was wondering if the cemetery chapel could be used as a meeting place for the
November meeting. Ms. Brabender Mattox asked to go over the overlay design standards.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn at 4:15 pm was made by Mr. Arnold and seconded Ms. Kipetz. Motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
David Buck, Principal Planner
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BOARD OF APPEALS MINUTES
October 9, 2013
PRESENT: Dan Carpenter, Robert Cornell, Tom Willadsen, Dennis Penney, Kathryn Larson,
Robert Krasniewski
EXCUSED: none
STAFF: Todd Muehrer, Associate Planner/Zoning Administrator; Deborah Foland, Recording
Secretary
Chairperson Cornell called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m. Roll call was taken and a quorum declared
present.
The minutes of August 14, 2013 were approved as presented. (Penney/Krasniewski)
ITEM I: 440 W. SOUTH PARK AVENUE
Lorenz L. Rangeloff-applicant/owner, requests the following variance to permit a detached garage in the front
yard:
Description Code ReferenceRequired Proposed
Accessory Structure Location 30-1(A) Rear or Side yard Front yard
Mr. Muehrer presented the item and distributed photos of the subject site. He stated that the property is
zoned R-2 Two Family Residence District and is being used for institutional purposes. The existing
principal structure was built in 1896 and has an open off-street parking lot north of the structure fronting W.
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12 Avenue. The general area can be characterized as low density residential in nature. The applicant has
placed an 18’x22’ detached garage northwest of the existing principal structure in the existing off-street
parking lot and since the subject parcel has double-frontage, the proposed location is defined as a front yard
necessitating the variance request. The double-fronted lot configuration of the parcel is creating a justifiable
hardship and the proposed location will create the least impact for the surrounding neighborhood, parking lot
drive aisle circulation and stall arrangement. City of Oshkosh Inspection Services has indicated the proposed
location is compliant with building code requirements and staff recommends approval of the variance as
requested.
Lorenz Rangeloff, 3020 Oregon Street, stated the church was in need of an outside storage facility and he
was proposing to place the structure in the corner of the parking lot behind the church.
Mr. Cornell questioned if the structure was already built.
Mr. Rangeloff responded that the garage was donated to the church and already moved onto the site as the
party donating the structure needed it moved from his property immediately. He discovered that a variance
would be necessary after it had been placed there and he came in to obtain the building permit.
Mr. Carpenter inquired if the garage would remain in the location that it currently existed.
Mr. Rangeloff responded affirmatively.
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Mr. Penney commented that he understood the circumstances of how the garage was located on the site
without a building permit.
Mr. Krasniewski questioned what the garage was currently sitting on.
Mr. Rangeloff replied that he cannot construct the foundation for it until he is able to acquire the building
permit and he will place it on a proper foundation once he knows the result of the variance request.
Mr. Krasniewski also questioned what Mr. Rangeloff’s relationship was with the church organization and if
the garage structure would be brought up to code standards if the variance was granted and a building permit
issued.
Mr. Rangeloff responded that both he and his wife were board members of the church and the structure
would be brought up to code once the permit is issued.
Ms. Larson inquired if the three lots had been combined into one parcel.
Mr. Muehrer responded that they had been recently combined however the mapping system had not yet been
updated to reflect the recent change.
Ms. Larson then questioned how far back the garage would be located from the church structure.
Mr. Rangeloff responded it would be approximately five feet.
Ms. Larson inquired if this distance would meet code requirements.
Mr. Muehrer responded affirmatively.
Mr. Cornell inquired if the setbacks from the lot line on the site plan were accurate.
Mr. Rangeloff responded affirmatively.
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Terrie Kragenbrink, 426 W. 12 Avenue, stated she was a neighbor to the north of the church property and
questioned why the variance was being requested after the structure had already been placed there. She
further stated that she does not want to see a shanty town in the parking lot of this property and the garage
does not blend well with the church structure. She understood the need for a storage facility but did not wish
to see this type of property maintenance continue as the garage structure looks like an after thought and is not
enhancing to either the neighborhood or the church property. She stated that the variance should have been
requested and approved prior to the structure being placed on the site and this was the second time this year
she has been notified that Mr. Rangeloff has requested a variance after he already completed work that
should have required a building permit.
Mr. Carpenter inquired how she would suggest changing the appearance of the garage to blend better with
the church structure.
Ms. Kragenbrink responded that the garage does not look like it belongs with the church structure and
appears to look foreign to the site.
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Mr. Carpenter commented that the alternative to having no storage facility on the site would be to store the
equipment outside which would also not enhance the property.
Ms. Kragenbrink stated that she was not objecting to the variance being granted for the garage but she does
not want to see other structures placed on the site as it possesses a very large parking lot area.
Ms. Larson commented that the Board is not likely to approve the placement of any other structures on this
site.
Mr. Krasniewski inquired about the color of the existing garage.
Ms. Kragenbrink responded that it is a tan color and the church is white.
Mr. Penney commented that he did not know what else could be done with the garage to make it more
aesthetically pleasing.
Mr. Krasniewski commented that this was the second time that this applicant has been before the Board
requesting a variance without applying for a building permit first and suggested that the property owner
could consider installing new siding on the garage as it may be an improvement.
Ms. Kragenbrink stated that she was hoping that the site would be kept in good condition as the church was
an attractive and very old structure.
Mr. Carpenter questioned if the church was on the historical register.
Mr. Muehrer responded that he believed it was however there were no issues with adding an accessory
structure to the site.
Mr. Carpenter inquired if Mr. Rangeloff would consider painting the garage white to help it blend in with the
church structure.
Mr. Rangeloff replied that the siding was vinyl which was not recommended to paint and that he would be
replacing the missing pieces of siding and the garage was in good condition with a new roof.
Discussion ensued on the possibility of adding landscaping or planter boxes to soften the effect of the garage
and it was determined that details such as this are not required for other garage structures so it would not be
appropriate to require it in this circumstance.
Mr. Krasniewski reiterated that the property owner should have obtained the necessary building permit prior
to moving the garage structure onto the property.
Motion by Penney to approve the request for a variance to permit a detached garage in the front
yard.
Seconded by Carpenter. Motion carried 5-0.
Finding of Facts:
No harm to public interest.
Unique situation with lot possessing two front yards.
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There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 3:53 p.m. (Penney/Krasniewski).
Respectfully submitted,
Todd Muehrer
Associate Planner/Zoning Administrator
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PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
October 15, 2013
PRESENT: Ed Bowen, Jeffrey Thoms, Thomas Fojtik, John Hinz, Steve Cummings, Robert Vajgrt,
Karl Nollenberger
EXCUSED: David Borsuk, Kathleen Propp, Donna Lohry
STAFF: Darryn Burich, Director of Planning Services; David Buck, Principal Planner; Jeffrey
Nau, Associate Planner; Allen Davis, Director of Community Development; Deborah
Foland, Recording Secretary
Chairperson Fojtik called the meeting to order at 4:00 pm. Roll call was taken and a quorum declared
present.
The minutes of October 1, 2013 were approved as presented. (Vajgrt/Hinz)
I. TWO-LOT LAND DIVISION/CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP AT 1822 SIMPSON
STREET
The owner/petitioner are requesting a two-lot land division/certified survey map from one existing
parcel containing a total of 0.360 acres (15,727 square feet). Sizes of the proposed lots are as follows:
Lot 1 = 0.172 Acres, 7,500 square feet
Lot 2 = 0.188 Acres, 8,227 square feet
Mr. Nau presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area. He discussed the history of
the lot as well as the fiber optic line that extends across the west end of the parcel however it will not
hamper the development of the site as it is located in the front yard setback area. He further stated that
the lot was proposed for residential use which is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
Motion by Vajgrt to approve the two-lot land division/certified survey map at 1822 Simpson
Street.
Seconded by Bowen. Motion carried 6-0.
II. TWO-LOT LAND DIVISION/CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP AT 3764 JACKSON
STREET
The owner/petitioner is requesting a two-lot land division/certified survey map from one existing
parcel containing a total of 63,831 + square feet. Sizes of the proposed lots are as follows:
Lot 1 = 31,890 Square Feet
Lot 2 = 31,941 Square Feet
Mr. Burich presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area and stated that the land
division meets the size requirements however the CSM does not show all the information necessary to
recommend approval of the proposed land division unless the petitioner can address some of the
concerns regarding this request. The City’s Zoning Ordinance for land division criteria requires
nonagricultural divisions to be compatible with adjacent land uses and concerns relating to the shed on
Lot 2 that has no approved use or demonstrates that it meets building code requirements for
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occupancy. It appears to be currently used as a storage area which is not allowed in a C-1 zoning
district. The shed could be removed or the petitioner could find a re-use for it that would be allowable
in its zoning district. The other options would be to rezone the property to a manufacturing
classification or request a planned development amendment to allow the lot to be used for
manufacturing purposes in a neighborhood business district. Staff is recommending to lay over the
item until the CSM can be revised to show all features on the site and to provide more information
regarding the potential re-use of the large shed.
Mr. Thoms questioned if the petitioner’s use of the site was nonconforming currently.
Mr. Burich responded that the petitioner had attempted to obtain a planned development for boat
storage on the site some time ago and was denied by the Plan Commission. He is currently in violation
for the storage use on the site however a correction notice has not yet been issued.
Mr. Thoms then questioned what the C-2 use was to the south of the site.
Mr. Burich replied that there was a filling station on that site.
Roy Schumacher, 3764 Jackson Street, stated that the reason for the land division request was due to
the nonconforming use on the site. He further stated that the homestead was on one lot and the shed on
the north portion of the property was used for storage purposes. He was attempting to clean up the site
and heard that the property to the north of his parcel has sold and the intent was to use it for retail store
use. He stated he would like to bring his property into a conforming use and that the home was in
good condition but one parcel was residential in use and the other parcel was commercial.
Mr. Thoms commented that if the petitioner desired to bring his property into a conforming use that the
storage use present on the site currently was not a conforming use in this zoning district.
Mr. Schumacher stated that he wanted to make the lot with the storage shed on it into an antique store.
Mr. Thoms questioned if an antique store would be a conforming use in this zoning district.
Mr. Burich responded that the parcel was in a planned development zoning district and therefore would
be required to come through Plan Commission and Common Council for a planned development
approval but that an antique store would be a permissible use.
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Mr. Thoms then questioned if it was still necessary to lay over the request until the November 5
meeting.
Mr. Burich indicated that staff had no plans for the use submitted at this time and does not know if
there are sanitary services available for Lot 2 and with boats presently stored on the site, there were
concerns about the use. He further stated that staff would like to first see a land use plan prior to
deciding if the land division should be approved or denied and more information was necessary to
make that decision.
Mr. Thoms inquired if a one meeting lay over would be long enough for the necessary information to
be provided.
Mr. Burich responded that the Plan Commission had 90 days by statute to come to a determination so
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if necessary the request could be laid over beyond the November 5 meeting.
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Motion by Vajgrt to lay over the land division/certified survey map at 3764 Jackson Street in
order for the petitioner to provide the following:
1.Provide additional information on the CSM such as all structures, parking areas, utilities, and
easements.
2.Provide information regarding utility services to the large shed on proposed Lot 2.
3.Provide information on proposed use of the large shed on proposed Lot 2.
Seconded by Nollenberger. Motion carried 5-0-1. (Bowen abstained)
III. ZONE CHANGE FROM M-3 GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT TO M-2
CENTRAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2212
MONTANA STREET
The owner/petitioner is requesting a zone change from M-3 General Industrial District to M-2 Central
Industrial District.
Mr. Burich presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the zoning
classifications and land use in said area which included C-2 General Commercial District, M-3 General
Industrial District, and M-2 Central Industrial District. He further stated that the M-3 zoning district
was mainly used in industrial parks where the M-2 zoning district was utilized for less intensive uses.
The current M-3 zoning designation significantly restricts what can be done with the parcels and staff
will be looking at the whole area in the future to determine if additional zone changes should be
considered.
Mr. Hinz commented that the Plan Commission held a workshop on reviewing the zoning in the entire
community and questioned if this zone change was part of a broader plan.
Mr. Burich responded that he did not know how it would be handled at this point but the request was to
change from one manufacturing zoning classification to another which was consistent with the current
uses seen in this area and should not impact any remapping of zoning districts to be considered in the
future.
Mr. Thoms stated that the request to down zone by the property owner appeared to be spot zoning to
him.
Mr. Burich indicated that both M-2 and M-3 zoning classifications were manufacturing uses and there
were other sites in the area zoned M-2 as well so he did not consider it spot zoning.
Mr. Buck added that the M-2 zoning for this property matches up with other sites in the area.
Motion by Vajgrt to approve the zone change from M-3 General Industrial District to M-2
Central Industrial District for property located at 2212 Montana Street.
Seconded by Nollenberger. Motion carried 6-0.
IV. ZONE CHANGE FROM R-2 TWO-FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT TO M-2
RD
CENTRAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 663 W. 3
AVENUE
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The City is requesting a zone change from R-2 Two-Family Residence District to M-2 Central
Industrial District to allow the combination of two parcels and expand the existing public institutional
use.
Mr. Nau presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the zoning
classifications and land use in said area. He explained the reasoning for the zone change request and
stated that, if approved, the parcel would be combined with the adjacent parcel to the east for use by
the University. He stated the zone change was consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and that the
City may be considering broader zone changes at a future date for this area.
Mr. Cummings arrived at 4:29 pm.
There was no discussion on this item.
Motion by Vajgrt to approve the zone change from R-2 Two-Family Residence District to M-2
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Central Industrial District for property located at 663 W. 3 Avenue.
Seconded by Bowen. Motion carried 7-0.
V. PUBLIC HEARING ON PROJECT PLAN AND ALLOCATION AMENDMENT TO
TAX INCREMENTAL DISTRICT #7 SOUTHWEST INDUSTRIAL PARK
The Department of Community Development requests approval of a Project Plan Allocation
Amendment that would permit sharing of tax increment from TID #7 Southwest Industrial Park to
recipients TID #20 South Shore Redevelopment Area and TID #21 Fox River Corridor Project. Both
TIDs #20 and #21 were created as blighted area TIDs and thus eligible to become increment recipient
districts. Attached to this staff report is the Project Plan Amendment document.
Mr. Burich presented the item and explained the reasoning for the amendment request and that the
increments could offset the debt service and costs in TID #20 and #21. He indicated that this
allocation amendment was keeping with state statutes and the tables reflect the cash flow analysis and
directed the Commissioners to refer to pages 9 through 11 in the Project Plan. He explained that the
City is not adding more increment and that Table #1 on page 9 shows the revenues and expenditures as
well as anticipated transfers at this time from Tax Increment District #7 where Tables #2 and 3 show
the revenues and expenditures for TID #20 and #21 respectively. He further discussed the details of
these tables.
Mr. Fojtik questioned what the precedent was for this and has sharing of surplus increment between
districts worked in the past.
Mr. Burich responded that it has been done in the past with TID #7 and #9 allocating increments to
TID #13 and #16.
Allen Davis, Director of Community Development, added that TID #7 has also allocated surplus
increment to TID #24 and this practice has worked out very well in the past.
Mr. Thoms questioned what the impact was of this allocation amendment on citizens and for projects
not to borrow to other projects, if a successful development could lower property taxes.
Mr. Davis responded that it depends on the citizens however in the City’s case, the City, County, and
school districts all benefit from the revenue in TID #7. Closing this TID would lower taxes however
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general obligation debts would have to pay for deficits in the less successful TID #20 and #21 so
spreading the benefits of TID #7 offsets these costs.
Mr. Thoms clarified that the city has to pay interest payments on general obligation debt for the TIDs
that are not successful and the borrowing from TID #7 would offset the costs.
Mr. Davis confirmed that was the case.
Mr. Thoms stated that TID #7 can only be open until 2017 which would buy time for the other two
TID districts to pay for themselves.
Mr. Davis confirmed this and stated that TID #20 and #21 could retire their debt in the coming years
by the allocation from TID #7 without citizens paying for it.
Mr. Thoms stated that what we are using from TID #7 is sufficient to pay the principal and interest
payments for TID #20 & #21.
Mr. Nollenberger commented that the concept is that tax revenues of developed areas in TID districts
refinance redevelopment of other older parts of the community.
Mr. Hinz inquired about the payoff of the increments over all the years of the TID, could we pay off
now if desired and eliminate the payment of interest.
Mr. Davis indicated that the city cannot accelerate all the payments as some of the debts do not allow
prepayment until a certain date.
Mr. Fojtik opened the public hearing at 4:42 pm. As there were no citizens present to comment, the
public hearing was closed.
Mr. Nollenberger questioned if the other taxing entities have an opportunity for input and approval on
the proposed amendment.
Mr. Burich responded that the Plan Commission, Common Council, and Joint Review Board all review
and approve the proposed amendment. He noted that the Joint Review Board is comprised of
representatives of Winnebago County, the Oshkosh Area School District and the Fox Valley Technical
College District.
Mr. Thoms requested further explanation of the overlapping taxing jurisdictions.
Mr. Burich replied that in some communities there are different school districts or other types of
special districts involved however in the City’s case, there are no changing overlapping districts in the
City.
Mr. Thoms also questioned if TID #20 and #21 were created due to the fact that they were blighted
areas.
Mr. Burich responded affirmatively and reviewed the resolution approving the project plan allocation
amendment which contains the findings.
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Mr. Thoms inquired if the cap limitation will not go up and if there was no obligation on TID #7 to
disallow this amendment.
Mr. Burich responded negatively and stated that we were not adding any area to the TID district
boundary so it would not affect the cap.
Motion by Nollenberger to approve the Project Plan and Allocation Amendment to Tax
Incremental District #7 Southwest Industrial Park.
Seconded by Vajgrt. Motion carried 7-0.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at approximately 4:45 pm. (Vajgrt/Bowen)
Respectfully submitted,
Darryn Burich
Director of Planning Services
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Plan Commission Minutes 6 October 15, 2013