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CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
MINUTES
AUGUST 8, 2012
PRESENT:
Dennis Arnold, Steve Cummings, Shirley Brabender Mattox, and Karen Heikel
EXCUSED:
Todd Clark, Arlene Schmuhl and Vicky Redlin
STAFF:
David Buck
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Arnold called the meeting to order at 3:00 pm and a quorum was declared present.
APPROVAL OF JULY 18 MEETING MINUTES
Mr. Arnold corrected a grammatical error in the third line under Building Permit Review and
Discussion changing “is” to “are”. Also, under Adjournment Ms. Brabender Mattox was referred to
as “Mr”. Mr. Cummings motioned to approve the meeting minutes with the change. Motioned
seconded by Ms. Heikel. Minutes were approved unanimously.
BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW & DISCUSSION
Mr. Buck presented the list of building permits that were issued in the month of July and described
work done. Ms. Brabender asked about what type of windows were used for replacements at 1008
Merritt. She further questioned if they had used vinyl on the exterior. Mr. Buck and Mr. Arnold
answered that the permit shows they are put in the same openings and that no structural changes
were made. Mr. Arnold indicated that he has observed the property in the past and has noticed it
has had “pretty rough” treatment over the years and believes the windows had been replaced in the
past. Ms. Brabender Mattox asked which window was being replaced with a smaller one on 1155
Algoma Boulevard. Mr. Arnold stated that it was a kitchen window in the rear and because there
was no header changes it is probably an exhaust. Discussion took place regarding the razing of the
duplex at 628 Franklin. Mr. Cummings stated the home was lost to a fire and he had heard it was
hit by lightning. Ms. Brabender Mattox asked who makes the determination that it is a “loss” and
not repairable. Mr. Buck stated that it is typically the insurance carrier.
HISTORIC SIGNAGE/MARKER LOCATION DETERMINATION
Mr. Buck went over the list of topics that were chosen by the Commission at their last meeting. He
stated that the Commission now needed to determine the general locations on the waterfront for
them. Discussion ensued where to place the projected 12 signs and the determinations were made
as follows:
Area/Zone Sign # & Topic
Marion Road Zone 1 – (1) Employers/Industry/Business
Marion Road Zone 2 – (2) “On This Spot” Progression
City Center Area & Hotel Zone – (3) Entertainment
Riverside Park Zone – (4) Riverside Park & (5) Railroad
Pioneer Resort Zone – (6) Lake Winnebago/River System
South Shore East Zone – (7) Brewing/Prohibition & (8) Railroad
South Shore Central Zone – (9) Transportation/Boating
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Jeld-Wen Zone – (10) Logging/Lumber
South Shore West Zone – (11) Oshkosh North Side and South Side Heritage
William Steiger Park Zone – (12) Fishing
Discussion on why education was not included as the topic received the same number of votes as
“On This Spot” Progression and Entertainment. It was felt that the University area would be a
better place than the riverfront for an “Education” topic sign. Ms. Heikel mentioned that the new
Welcome and Conference Center would be the best area for it. After further discussion, it was
determined that it would be left off this project, as it was outside of the project boundaries, but
would be pursued as a separate project possibly with the University, University Foundation or the
Alumni.
ANNUAL REPORT FINALIZATION
Mr. Buck stated that the text was done but that coordination with Todd and Arlene (and/or Lizzy)
will need to take place to put the Annual Report into a graphically aesthetic document. Mr.
Cummings suggested contacting Diane Penzenstadler from 44 North to see if she could do it. Mr.
Buck felt that the topic needed to be pushed to the next meeting when Mr. Clark and Ms. Schmuhl
would be in attendance.
ORDINANCE REWRITE SUBCOMMITTEE FORMATION
Mr. Buck stated that Ms. Redlin wanted to be on the subcommittee but she was not available for
this meeting. Ms. Brabender Mattox said that she has a list of WI communities that have ordinances
and if they are CLG. Mr. Buck further said that there was not a defined timeline and he would put it
on the next agenda under subcommittee reports and membership can be formed and a timeline made
then. He also added that he would share the list at the next meeting.
SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS
A. Fishing Shanty Investigation - Mr. Buck discussed the timing issue of the fishing shanty
investigation committee. Mr. Cummings stated that he will get a kick off meeting together with the
volunteers to start the process and that he will report at the next meeting. Discussion on context of
the report took place.
B. Website Update - Mr. Buck updated the commission on the website update stating that it is
being designed from another community and will not have as many links as the current one but will
be “neat” and easy to understand. As we go forward, additional links and features can be added.
C. Tourism Brochure – Mr. Buck stated that the North Main Street brochure was completed and
printed. It was distributed by the BID manager. Future brochures will be the purview of the
subcommittee, which is made up of Ms. Brabender Mattox, Ms. Schmuhl and Mr. Cummings.
D.North Main Street Bungalow District – Mr. Arnold stated he has been involved and should be
included on the subcommittee membership list. Mr. Buck stated that the grant was received and the
Council accepted it. He further added that the proposals were submitted and the Legacy Group out
of Sheboygan was chosen to do the work. Next step is to get contracts signed and for work to
begin.
E.Riverside Cemetery - Subcommittee is made up of Mr. Clark and Ms. Brabender Mattox. They
have not met recently and there are no actions to report.
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F.Historic Bar Elements – This is Mr. Cummings project. Mr. Cummings stated he has had some
conversations with a gentleman that has written a book on brewing in Oshkosh as well as saloons.
He may get involved in doing research and possible putting together another publication. He also
stated that he is attempting to get together with Julie Schwan whose family owned Chief Oshkosh.
G.Property Landmarking – Mr. Buck inquired if anyone had heard from NeighborWorks regarding
the status of landmarking the Honeymoon House on Mount Vernon Street. Mr. Cummings said he
will check into it. Mr. Buck said that the owner of the property on 1203 Georgia was interested in
possibly landmarking the home and getting a plaque. Mr. Arnold stated he has gone over to the
home and met with Ms. Black. Mr. Arnold said it is a stucco home (possibly over clap board) from
around the 1920s. He went on to describing the home inside and out and stated he would continue
to work with the owner and most likely be going to do research at the Register of Deeds.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING/COMMISSIONER STATEMENTS
Mr. Buck went over the Planning Calendar for the rest of 2012 and has subcommittee reports on all
agendas. He will add the determination of marker locations, the ordinance rewrite as part of the
subcommittee, and the annual report.
Mr. Buck passed a brochure around for the Wisconsin Historical Society Conference in Madison on
Sept, 28-29 for the Commissioners information.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn at 4:45 pm was made by Ms. Brabender Mattox and seconded by Mr. Cummings.
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
David Buck
Principal Planner
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