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CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
MINUTES
JULY 18, 2012
PRESENT:
Todd Clark, Dennis Arnold, Steve Cummings, Shirley Brabender Mattox, and Vicky
Redlin
EXCUSED:
Arlene Schmuhl and Karen Heikel
STAFF:
David Buck
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Clark called the meeting to order at 3:21 pm and a quorum was declared present.
Discussion took place regarding the resignation of Bob Hughes. It was discussed that the
Commission could benefit mostly from a historian as a member. Ms. Brabender Mattox felt that
Ron LaPoint would be a great addition and that he should be contacted. Mr. Buck stated that there
were a couple applications within the manager’s office and he would get copied for the Commission
to review.
APPROVAL OF JUNE 13 MEETING MINUTES
Ms. Brabender Mattox corrected the spelling of the name “Bergis” to the correct spelling of
“Burgess” within the permit review section of the minutes. She further gave a brief history of
Mr. Burgess and discussed details of his life and relationship to Oshkosh. Mr. Arnold motioned to
approve the meeting minutes with the change. Motioned seconded by Ms. Redlin. Minutes were
approved unanimously.
BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW & DISCUSSION
Mr. Buck presented the list of building permits that were issued in the month of June and described
work done. Discussion took place regarding the porch and railing work at 1010 Washington
Avenue. The addition of the railing was not felt to be an issue as the steps are not being augmented
from its historical context so that the railing could always be removed. There was general
discussion regarding the concern over the Commission’s inability to regulate and/or protect historic
structures that are being threatened. Further thoughts regarding homes reverting to rental property
and the need to do something quickly, especially in areas like Jackson Street, were shared.
HISTORIC SIGNAGE/MARKER TOPIC DISCUSSION
Mr. Buck compiled a list of topics made up by the Commission on the dry-erase board and
suggested that after discussion the Commissioners place a mark by the eight topics they felt were
most appropriate as marker topics. He would them compile them and bring to the next meeting for
determination of locating them. The list, vote results and twelve choices are shown in the table
below:
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Landmarks Commission Guest
Brabender Total
Clark Cummings Mattox Redlin Arnold MacGregor Count
Railroads/CN
PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED
Railroads/CN
PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED
Riverside Park
PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED
Fishing
PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED
Recreation
X 1
Brewing/Prohibition
X X X X X X 6
Education
X X X X 4
Logging/Lumber
X X X X X X 6
Shopping/Retail
X 1
Art/Architecture
X X X 3
Entertainment
X X X X 4
Natives/Settlement
0
Religion/Heritage
0
Underground Tunnels
0
Employers/Industry/Business
X X X X X 5
Military/War
0
Historic Districts
0
Transportation and Boating
X X X X X X 6
North vs South Side
X X X X X X 6
Lake Winnebago and the
River System
X X X X X X 6
"On This Spot" Progression
X X X X 4
ANNUAL REPORT FINALIZATION
Mr. Clark handed out an outline of the 2012 Annual Report and stated he would be finalizing it but
that he needed assistance with the graphic design element. He had been hoping that Ms. Schmuhl
would have been in attendance as she usually assists but he asked that if she was unavailable could
staff assist. Mr. Buck said he would attempt to help or try to get the intern to assist but cautioned
that it may just have to be a little “bare boned”. Mr. Clark asked that the Commissioners take a
look at it independently and get comments to him and that he felt it could be ready for distribution
to the Council in August.
WEBSITE UPDATE DISCUSSION
Mr. Clark stated he has been working with Lizzy Schultz from the planning office and is modeling
an updated website after other municipal historic preservation websites. He added that it will be
basic to begin but will be improved over time. Mr. Buck stated that Ms. Schultz has been very busy
and timing may be an issue. He asked permission to give her the e-mail addresses of the
Commissioners so that she could request help. The Commission agreed that she should send her
requests and that they would do what they could to assist.
NORTH MAIN STREET BUNGALOW DISTRICT UPDATE
Mr. Buck gave an update on the progress of the historic district work and informed the Commission
that we had received a single proposal from Legacy Architecture that met the criteria of the RFP.
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He stated that, if acceptable to the Commission, he would contact them and begin the contracting
process. Mr. Cummings motioned to accept the proposal and allow staff to contract with Legacy
Architecture. Motion was seconded by Ms. Brabender Mattox. Motion passed unanimously.
NEWSLETTER DISCUSSION
Mr. Buck inquired if this item was still something the Commission wished to do as there has not
been a new newsletter created in quite some time. Mr. Clark stated that the project had always been
in the realm of Ms. Schmuhl, who is not here this evening and that she would have to be consulted.
FISHING SHANTY INVESTIGATION SUBCOMMITTEE FORMATION
Mr. Buck stated that the City Manager has given a September deadline for a report on the Fishing
Shanties and that he has contacted the Fox Wisconsin Heritage Parkway, the Otter Street Fishing
Club and the Winnebago County Historical Society to inquire if they would be willing to help and
they have all agreed. He then asked who from the Commission would be on the subcommittee
researching the item and putting together the report. It was determined that Todd Clark and Steve
Cummings would represent the Commission and also that Joan MacGregor would assist. Mr. Buck
said he will attempt to coordinate a time for everyone to meet. Ms. Redlin also suggested that Josh
Ranger of UWO be included as a resource, through Ms. Heikel.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING/COMMISSIONER STATEMENTS
Mr. Buck went over the Planning Calendar for the rest of 2012 with items listed on the separate
months. He stated that he was adding subcommittee reports to all future agendas. He also will
include the determination of marker topic to sign location.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn at 4:42 pm was made by Mr. Arnold and seconded by Ms. Brabender Mattox.
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
David Buck
Principal Planner
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