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CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
MINUTES
MAY 09, 2012
PRESENT:
Dennis Arnold, Arlene Schmuhl, Steve Cummings, Shirley Brabender Mattox, Robert
Hughes and Karen Heikel
EXCUSED:
Todd Clark and Vicky Redlin
STAFF:
David Buck
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Arnold called the meeting to order at 3:03 pm and a quorum was declared present.
APPROVAL OF APRIL 11 AND APRIL 25 MEETING MINUTES
Ms. Heikel motioned to approve the April 11, 2012 meeting minutes, which was seconded by Mr.
Hughes. Minutes were approved unanimously.
Mr. Arnold asked that the minutes be corrected to change the name of the Acanthus award winners
from to “Frommelt” instead of “Grommelt” as written in the April 25 minutes. Mr. Cummings
motioned to approve the minutes with the correction, which was seconded by Mr. Hughes. Minutes
were approved unanimously.
BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW & DISCUSSION
Mr. Buck presented the list of building permits that were issued in the month of April and described
work done. Discussion took place regarding the style and design of the rear porch addition on 1236
Algoma Boulevard. Additional discussion took place regarding the Paine construction as well as
the status on the Schreiber House next to them on Algoma Boulevard.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Mr. Buck said that it is time for the election of officers. Mrs. Brabender Mattox motioned that the
officers remain the same being Mr. Clark as the Chair, Mr. Arnold as the Vice-Chairperson and
Staff as Recording Secretary. Motion was seconded by Mr. Cummings. Motioned approved
unanimously.
FISHING SHANTIES–APPROVE COMMUNICATION TO CITY MANAGER
Mr. Buck stated that he drafted a letter to the City Administrator based on the previous meeting
describing the history of the item as it related to Landmarks. He stated he will be attaching the
minutes to the communication when sent on. He added that Mr. Davis, Director of Community
Development, suggested when discussing working relationships that groups such as the Historical
Society, UWO, Library, Fox-WI Heritage Parkway be specifically mentioned. Discussion took
place on putting a timeframe on the work and it was determined that there was not urgency to have
an end date and that the scope is really on the history and cultural significance. Ms. Schmuhl
clarified that it is a study on “fishing shanties” in general not just Oshkosh’s specific shanties. Mr.
Arnold identified a typo correction of the term “formerly” to “formally”. Motion was made by Mr.
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Cummings to approve the communication which was seconded by Ms. Brabender Mattox. Motion
was approved unanimously.
ACANTHUS AWARDS
The Commission went over the three award winners determined at the last meeting: Community
Mural, Morgan House renovations and Castle Pierce anniversary. Mr. Buck provided a timeline of
when the information on each item would be needed to be able to get it to the Mayor and also stated
that staff will be purchasing frames for the awards themselves.
NORTH MAIN BUNGALOW DISTRICT
Ms. Brabender Mattox updated the Commission on the status of the North Main Street Bungalow
District grant. Ms. Brabender Mattox requested that our meeting agendas and minutes be sent to
Joe DeRose every month. Ms. Schmuhl congratulated Ms. Brabender Mattox on her efforts to get
the grant. Mr. Buck said that the RFP, MOA and contract will need to get approved by the
Attorney’s office and then the Council. Mr. Buck asked that Ms. Brabender Mattox meet with staff
to get the paperwork ready and we will start to send it on its way through the process.
NORTH MAIN STREET WALKING TOUR BROCHURE
Mr. Buck explained that Elizabeth Schultz, Planning Assistant recreated a North Main Street
Historic District tourist guide that had been done in 1995 for the State of the City. He stated it was
not changed except that the calendar of events was removed. Mr. Buck said the previous was
sponsored by the Main Street BID and so he had gone to the BID Board and several of the
individual members offered to pay for the printing costs so he is bringing it back to the Landmarks
Commission for approval or changes so the copies can be made. Mr. Cummings stated that there
should not be advertising but list those who sponsored it. Mr. Cummings also said that the size
should be changed to be rack size and some info should be changed. Ms. Schmuhl felt that the
sizing is wrong and the brochure should be 11 x 17, should be tri-fold and generally that the
brochure was not of high enough quality to be used. Mr. Cummings felt that the brochures have
interior pictures as well and general discussion on panels and content ensued. Mr. Buck said that it
appeared by the comments that the Commission wants to redesign the brochure, which will
drastically delay any production and his goal was to get something out for this year. The degree of
changes discussed would necessitate a subcommittee be created to do the actual design and text
changes. Ms. Brabender Mattox motioned to set up a subcommittee to work on tourism brochures
and include herself, Mr. Cummings, Ms. Schmuhl and Ms. Schultz. The motion was seconded by
Ms. Schmuhl. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Buck asked if anyone would go to the next BID
Board meeting to discuss these items. Mr. Cummings agreed to attend. Mr. Buck asked that this
brochure, even though it may not be perfect, be brought back to the BID to get printing arranged,
distribution done and generally allow the BID or members thereof to decide on the details.
Discussion took place regarding whether the Landmarks Commission would do the printing or
supply the digital information to the members of the BID and let them handle it. Ms. Heikel felt
that we should get something out now and then create a better one for next year/season. Ms.
Schmuhl said that the quality really needed to be addressed and suggested that we remove reference
to the Landmarks Commission and just have it as a generic tour brochure. Ms. Brabender Mattox
motioned that for this summer season that we provide the BID the info without Landmarks
designation and have it drafted/printed as they want. Mr. Hughes seconded the motion. Motioned
carried 5-1.
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[Mr. Cummings and Ms. Schmuhl leave]
HISTORIC SIGNAGE/MARKER TOPIC DISCUSSION
Mr. Buck distributed and displayed a map that shows the locations of 12 historic markers locations
in 9 sections on the riverfront. Currently there is Riverside Park, two for the CN railroad bridge and
we have suggested a fishing theme near the shanties. He stated that the Landmarks Commission
will be required to choose topics for each of the markers so they can be marketed for donors to
provide funding to produce and install. Mr. Arnold provided Sanborn maps and lists of uses on the
river for 1890-1903 to be included in the next packets for discussion. Mr. Buck asked that the
Commission look over the sections and make suggestions on topics from a historic perspective to
bring to the next meeting.
[Other items on the agenda were not discussed]
ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn at 4:47 pm was made by Mr. Hughes and seconded by Mr. Arnold. Motion
carried unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
David Buck
Principal Planner
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