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MINUTES
Urban Wildlife Advisory Committee
Meeting
February 27, 2012
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLLCALL
The meeting was called to order at 4:46 P.M.
Present: Michael Beeth, LorRae Crubaugh, Steve Cummings, Loren Dieck, Michael Nigl, Paul Sobralski, Cecil
Streeter, Steve Voss
Staff: Chad Dallman, Parks Operations Manager; Trish Wendorf, Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Crubaugh for approval of the December 19, 2011 minutes, as distributed. Seconded by Beeth.
Motion carried 8-0.
CITIZEN’S STATEMENTS
(Items on Agenda)
There were no citizen’s statements.
BUSINESS
1)Review monthly car accident reports from Police Department
Mr. Voss stated he cannot believe that they aren’t reports from homeowners along Jackson Street relative to road-killed
deer.
Mr. Sobralski stated he sited quite a few deer on Packer and Vinland recently.
Mr. Streeter stated he had sited some deer along the railroad tracks by the carp pond area.
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Mr. Cummings stated he saw a deer by the Pepsi plant on 20 Avenue last week.
2)Discussion on public education opportunities on wildlife management
Mr. Streeter suggested that the Committee members pool together some questions with politically correct answers for
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use for 4 and 5 grade students. The Committee members could email Mr. Streeter with their questions/answers so he
could compile them all together in preparation for a future meeting. Upon his retirement he stated he will have more
time to work on this project which he hopes to have ready for next fall for the start of school. He stated parents will help
the children study for the test.
Mr. Voss concurred with Mr. Streeter and stated it would be a learning experience for the parents as well.
Mr. Streeter reiterated that the Committee members should email him with questions/answers based on the
Committee’s protocols and hopefully this project can be implemented next fall.
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3)Update on deer management projects
Mr. Voss announced that there was a deer cull recently.
Mr. Dallman stated that staff will continue to work with service providers and proceed with the Management Plan. He
noted that all permits and insurances are in place. The permit is good until December 31, 2011 and we can continue in
the fall as conditions allow.
Ms. Crubaugh inquired as to the number of deer culled.
Mr. Dallman stated that total eradication most likely would not occur just due to species cooperation.
Ms. Crubaugh stated that she talked with Stephanie Boyles Griffin of the Humane Society of the United States who
stated that when an area is wiped out, it becomes a vacuum effect. She stated they also discussed steps that must be
taken to participate in a pilot study regarding contraception in free roaming deer. She inquired if the committee might
be interested in hearing how a pilot study is going in another community.
Mr. Nigl stated he did not think that contraception would solve the deer problem within the Quarry property as those
deer are from the same gene pool and have been there for years.
Mr. Voss stated it wouldn’t hurt to keep that information on the back burner because things are constantly changing and
that information might be helpful in the future.
Ms. Crubaugh stated it is a long shot, but it is important to keep options open.
Mr. Beeth inquired as to the status of the deer that were harvested.
Mr. Dallman stated the deer that were harvested were use for food pantries.
Mr. Sobralski inquired if there was any negative impact with respect to the culling?
Mr. Dallman stated he did not receive one telephone call or other communication.
Ms. Crubaugh inquired as to why the Committee members were not alerted beforehand as to when the culling would
take place.
Mr. Dallman stated that staff followed the protocol directed by the Committee.
Both Mr. Dieck and Mr. Cummings concurred with Mr. Dallman and stated that was the reason the Committee was
formed – to insure that these types of actions/protocols were followed through.
Mr. Nigl inquired if the hunt is still based on snow cover.
Mr. Dallman stated no, the cull is based on deer cooperation and that the aerial survey is dependent upon snow cover.
Mr. Streeter inquired as to the outcome.
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Mr. Dallman stated there were approximately 20 deer within the quarry area and of those, 11 deer were culled. He
noted the Urban Wildlife Management team stated it was a good cull.
Mr. Voss inquired if they did the culling at night?
Mr. Dallman stated that the culls normally take place around the dinner hour when less people are active and it is
feeding time for the deer.
Mr. Voss inquired if the culling took place in the Quarry property alone or also in the Armory property as well.
Mr. Dallman stated that this culling was done in cooperation with the Quarry owners and the deer were taken just out of
the Quarry property. He noted that he will have a full report for the next regularly scheduled meeting.
Mr. Nigl inquired as to what type of firearms were used.
Mr. Dallman stated 223 caliber rifles with ballistic tipper bullets were used. It only took one hour and 15 minutes to
harvest the deer culled. The Urban Wildlife Management team had good provisions within which to move the carcasses.
Mr. Voss reported that there is a hole in the fence on Osborn Street by the mini-warehousing units (by building “H”). It
appears the fence is pulled apart in that area.
Mr. Dallman stated he will advise the Quarry owners as to that situation so they could tie it up/repair it.
Mr. Beeth stated it would be interesting to know as to what kind of improvement the neighbors in the Quarry area are
seeing due to the culling. It might be worthwhile to talk to those people to see if there is an incline/decline in deer
damage. He would like to hear from some of the people in the affected area.
Mr. Dallman concurred and stated that staff will continue working with these areas and see how the public reacts to see
if we’re making a difference or not.
Mr. Cummings stated it is important for the public to know that cullings are done to help prevent starvation.
4)Topics for next meeting
Discuss educational purposes and schools worksheets
Updated car and deer accident reports
Discussion about turkeys and wood chucks
Update on deer management
Discuss pilot study information regarding contraception in free roaming deer from Stephanie Boyles
Griffin of the Humane Society of the United States.
Mr. Dieck suggested that possibly once a year the Committee could hold some type of public forum to address any
concerns of the public. The forum could possibly be covered by the local public access television and could be a
question/answer type session and cover such topics such as the management tactics for the geese at Menominee Park.
It was suggested to have a flip chart available at the next meeting to list possible questions/answers with regard to the
school worksheets.
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CITIZENS STATEMENTS
(Items not on agenda)
Cindy Smith, 1345 Kensington Avenue, wished to thank the Committee for the aerial work and the culling and noted that
she likes how it is being done. She stated that hopefully the other deer that were spotted outside of the Quarry property
will be taken care of with future cullings. She stated that it doesn’t matter if the gates/fences to the Quarry property are
closed or not as the deer can jump over the fence. She stated that within the past week she still had deer race tracks on
her property and the deer are still digging up her lawn and noted that she is still experiencing damage by the deer on
both sides of her house.
OTHER BUSINES
ADJOURNMENT
There being no other business,
Motion by Beeth for adjournment; seconded by Streeter. Motion carried 8-0.
The meeting adjourned at 5:32 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Trish Wendorf
Trish Wendorf
Recording Secretary