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CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
MINUTES
FEBRUARY 08, 2012
PRESENT:-
Dennis Arnold, Arlene Schmuhl, Steve Cummings and Shirley BrabenderMattox
EXCUSED:
Todd Clark, Robert Hughes and Vicky Redlin
STAFF:
David Buck and Allen Davis
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Arnold called the meeting to order at 3:15 pm and a quorum was declared present.
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 2012 MEETING MINUTES
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Ms. BrabenderMattox motioned to approve the January 11, 2012 meeting minutes, which was
seconded by Mr. Cummings. Minutes were approved unanimously.
BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW & DISCUSSION
Mr. Buck presented the list of building permits that were issued in the month of January and
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described work done. Ms. BrabenderMattox inquired why antennas were permitted to be installed
on 530 North Main Street (Mainview Apartments). Mr. Buck replied that the conditional use permit
went before the City Plan Commission (including the Landmarks Commission recommendation to
not allow them) on December 6, 2011 and three antennas were permitted to be placed on the roof
with the conditions of approval including: the antennae, mounts and cable runs be blended in with
the appearance of the building as much as possible; a complete inventory and building/elevation
plans of all facilities located on the structure be provided prior to installation of the proposed
antennae; no additional adjustments, alterations or additions to telecommunication equipment
(beyond the three proposed) are permitted until a plan to stealth all facilities is provided, reviewed
and approved by the City; a status update on progress of the stealth plan be provided to the City
within 6 months; and that plans and building permits for the roof rehabilitation and equipment
concealment are provided by December of 2012 or the conditional use permit be considered null
and void and the three antennae included within this petition be removed.
Mr. Arnold asked if a permit was issued for the demolition of 14 Sterling. Mr. Buck replied that
one had. Mr. Arnold said that the structure was a historical structure and it was his impression that
it was not damaged to the extent that it needed to be removed. He added that it may have been an
insurance issue that determined the outcome.
Ms. Schmuhl opened a brief discussion on the Time Theater and talked about efforts for
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revitalization. Ms. BrabenderMattox stated that the Rivoli Theatre in downtown Cedarburg had
been revitalized quite well and the situation was very similar to the Time. Discussion about the
prohibition placed on the uses by Marcus Cinema and financial constraints ensued.
LANDMARKS LOGO DETERMINATION
Mr. Buck opened the discussion on the creation of a Landmarks Commission logo and stated that a
logo needed to be established for inclusion on the historic signs as well as being ready for the State
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of the City. The concept designs produced by Ms. Schmuhl were discussed with Ms. Brabender
Mattox suggesting the use of the Webster Block Tower designed by William Waters. Ms. Schmuhl
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stated that the logo needs to be basic without a lot of detail due to small scale copying and
reproduction. She added that she was attempting to stay away from an actual structure in her
designs and went with more of a generic architectural feature. Mr. Cummings thought that
incorporating lumber into the design would better represent Oshkosh’s history. Mr. Arnold stated
his preference of the logo on the upper right with the exclusion of the City “wave” logo but that he
thought another meeting might be needed as the majority of the Commission was not present. Mr.
Buck agreed but thought a special meeting might be called as the timing for the logo was critical for
the historic sign creation. Ms. Schmuhl asked that the Commissioners who had a specific feature
they liked get a photo or image to either herself or Mr. Clark and they could sketch it up. Mr. Buck
said he would set up a special meeting where all Commissioners could attend within the next two
weeks.
STATE OF THE CITY DISPLAY
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Mr. Buck informed the Commission that March 19 was the date of the State of the City and that
the Landmarks Commission will have a display table, as discussed at other meetings. He asked
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who would be willing to man the station. Mr. Arnold and Ms. BrabenderMattox volunteered and
also said they would be willing to step aside if one the members not here today wanted to. Ms.
Schmuhl suggested that staff contact the Convention and Visitors Bureau to see if they would be
willing to give the historic booklet written by Lynn Webster for the table. Mr. Buck said he would
contact them.
Ms. Schmuhl asked if the Riverside Cemetery scavenger hunt would be a good thing to add to the
table. Mr. Buck thought it might be and Ms. Schmuhl said she would e-mail it to him.
HISTORIC PLAQUE PROGRAM
Mr. Buck stated that the historic building plaque program brochure and application was completed
and he referred to the price list for the bronze plaques. He added that Atlas Sign and Plaque
Company have a High Density Urethane (HDU) plaque that is much more affordable and Mr. Buck
asked if he should order a $10 sample. The Commission reviewed the pricing list and stated that he
should order the sample but that if it was not as substantial as a bronze plaque, that the Erie Sign
and Plaque Company plaque (10”X7”) should be ordered to have for the State of the City. It was
felt the other sizes were simply too large for a house application and that the weight and cost might
be issues with larger plaques.
Mr. Buck informed the Commission that the Library was not interested in “hosting” the plaque or
having it as a display so he was planning to get the example plaque for the Oshkosh City Hall
denoting the Oshkosh High School, Built 1915. Mr. Urben, Director of General Services stated that
the plaque and brochures/applications could be placed on first floor and would be highly visible for
citizens/customers.
The Commission reviewed the plaque application Parts I & II and provided comments and changes
including removal of the consultant section, from Part I and some minor changes to wording on Part
II. Mr. Buck stated he would make the changes and have the applications and sample plaque ready
for the State of the City.
GOAL SETTING/PLANNING CALENDAR
The discussion of goal setting and calendar creation was postponed to the March meeting agenda,
when more members are present.
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UPDATE ON PREVIOUS ACTION ITEMS
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Mr. Buck updated the Commission on the January 24 Common Council approval of the Fox
Wisconsin Heritage Parkway Resolution as well as the finishing of the historic sign layout by the
Museum’s graphic artist. He added that the Landmarking application for 633 Mount Vernon was
sent to the Neighborworks Board for signing and would then be brought through the Plan
Commission and Council approval processes, assuming the Neighborworks Board approved it.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING/COMMISSIONER STATEMENTS
Mr. Buck stated that a special meeting to address the approval of a Landmarks Commission logo
will be established within the next two weeks and that topics for the March meeting will include
discussion on the goals for 2012 as well as the State of the City display. He stated that we would
possibly be getting a packet for renovations of Mainview Apartment redevelopment, depending on
the landowner and also there was the possibility of discussing the fishing shanties on the Fox River,
depending on the City Administration.
ADJOURNMENT
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Motion to adjourn at 5:04 pm was made by Ms. BrabenderMattox and seconded by Ms. Schmuhl.
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
David Buck
Principal Planner
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