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Urban Wildlife Advisory Committee
Meeting
September 26, 2011
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLLCALL
The meeting was called to order at 4:45 P.M.
Present: LorRae Crubaugh, Steve Cummings, Loren Dieck, Michael Nigl, Paul Sobralski, Steve Voss
Absent: Michael Beeth, Nikki Hronis, Cecil Streeter
Staff: Ray Maurer, Parks Director; Chad Dallman, Parks Operations Manager; Trish Wendorf, Recording
Secretary
INTRODUCTION OF NEW COMMITTEE MEMBER
Mr. Maurer introduced the new Committee member, Paul Sobralski. Mr. Sobralski is a lifelong hunter, fisherman and
outdoor enthusiast.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Crubaugh for approval of the July 25, 2011 minutes, as distributed. Seconded by Dieck. Motion
carried 6-0.
CITIZEN’S STATEMENTS
(Items on Agenda)
There were no citizen’s statements.
BUSINESS
1)Review monthly car accident reports from Police Department
Ms. Wendorf reported that the Oshkosh Police Department had not been able to provide updated information in time for
tonight’s meeting. She stated as soon as that information was provided, she would update the statistical spreadsheet.
2)Discussion on public education opportunities on wildlife management
Mr. Streeter was absent from the meeting and unable to give a report at this time. Mr. Maurer stated he would
contact Mr. Streeter on educational opportunities in conjunction with the school district before the next regularly
scheduled meeting.
Ms. Crubaugh stated there are grants available (City Block Grants, DNR, etc.) that might bring in some money to make
the Committee’s ideas happen.
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3)Discuss deer management options
Mr. Maurer stated he is looking for a recommendation/direction from the Committee to conduct another deer culling with
sharpshooters this winter.
Mr. Voss stated he was in support of a culling as the Committee has exhausted every other option. He noted there are still
problems with damage from the deer in the Quarry area. He stated that on Page Two of the July 25th minutes, it was
stated, “Reproduction controls are difficult to manage, not cost effective as well as questionable since it may be necessary
to resterilize an animal. The DNR has had limited field trial success in this endeavor and it is currently not allowed by the
DNR.” This Committee has stated they wish to be proactive and this is the way to do it before the deer come back out and
cause more damage.
Mr. Cummings stated with the Management Plan in place, the request for a culling doesn’t have to come before the City
Council.
Mr. Maurer stated there would still be a need for a permit from DNR for baiting and a waiver from the Common council for
the discharge of firearms, etc.
Discussion ensued relative to the cost of a culling. Mr. Maurer stated he believes that the sharpshooters charge $100
outright plus $100 - $200 per deer.
Mr. Nigl inquired as to how many deer would be taken.
Mr. Maurer stated the Vulcan Quarry owners do not think there are as many deer as in prior years and that’s why we
would look at the Armory property as well.
Mr. Voss reminded the Committee that the DNR would not give the City a grant to eliminate all of the deer (species).
Mr. Nigl inquired as to how much money is allotted in the budget for a culling?
Mr. Maurer stated there is nothing budgeted other than the expense for nuisance control. The cost most likely would run
$3,000 - $4,000.
Ms. Crubaugh stated that she is disappointed that the Committee seems to be back at square one because the DNR ties the
Committee’s hands. She feels the Committee needs to take more of a leadership role, but doesn’t feel the Committee is
given that freedom.
Mr. Nigl inquired if the sharpshooters would have free access to the Quarry?
Mr. Maurer stated they would not have free access. Culling details would need to be worked out with various City entities
as well as with the Quarry owners. Berms may need to be built as there are residences on the west side. There would be
restrictive times and days that need to be addressed as well.
Mr. Dieck inquired as to the possibility of entering into a five-year contract to keep future cullings in the mind of the public.
Mr. Maurer stated that may not be possible due to budget constraints.
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Mr. Nigl inquired if the DNR would commit to a 5-year plan?
Mr. Maurer stated he did not know and stated that he would have to research that.
Mr. Dallman stated it would be necessary to keep up with the survey so they know how many deer are actually out there.
Mr. Cummings stated he would rather have the deer shot by the sharpshooters than have them starve to death.
Mr. Dallman stated that’s where the education comes to mind.
It was the consensus of the Committee to move forward with a culling.
4)Update on Vulcan Quarry
Mr. Maurer stated he had discussions with Doug Averkamp of the Vulcan Quarry. Mr. Averkamp stated that the project is
on hold for raising the fence to 8-ft. or any higher. Mr. Averkamp had noted there has been less deer in the Quarry
property since last year.
Peter Dunn, DNR Captive Wildlife Administrative Warden, stated that installing an 8-ft. or higher fence does not make a
property a game farm or sanctuary.
Mr. Cummings stated that Ellen Barth (Area Wildlife Supervisor of the WDNR) was emphatic that the deer within the
Quarry boundaries belong to the State. If that is the case, is there anything in the State statutes that provides that the
state needs to pay for damages done by the deer within the Quarry?
Mr. Maurer stated he was not aware of any and stated if that was the case, other municipalities would have uncovered
that.
5)Topics for next meeting
Proposed topics include educational brochures.
Another proposed topic includes current regulations regarding waterfowl hunting on waterways in the City.
CITIZENS STATEMENTS
(Items not on agenda)
Lori Meitzen, 1064 West South Park Avenue, stated she is of the opinion there are less deer in the Quarry area as she has
seen approximately four at a time within the fence and the Quarry. She stated the berm on South Park comes around to
her backyard and the employees of the Quarry are digging the berm up now and blasting in that area which is most likely
scaring the deer away.
Linda Grant, 1405 Cambridge stated she saw three yearlings and two mature deer about 5:30 AM this morning that looked
like they were coming from the quarry area. She noted that due to the deer, she has lost a lot of vegetation from her yard.
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Mr. Voss stated one reason why there are not as many deer in the Quarry could be that there is an opening in the fence as
well as a path by the mini-warehousing units on Mason Street.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no other business,
Motion by Cummings for adjournment; seconded by Sobralski. Motion carried 6-0. The meeting adjourned
at 5:35 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Trish Wendorf
Trish Wendorf
Recording Secretary