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Urban Wildlife Advisory Committee
Meeting
July 25, 2011
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLLCALL
The meeting was called to order at 4:45 P.M.
Present: LorRae Crubaugh, Steve Cummings, Loren Dieck, Michael Nigl, Cecil Streeter
Absent: Michael Beeth, Nikki Hronis, Steve Voss
Staff: Ray Maurer, Parks Director; Chad Dallman, Parks Operations Manager; Trish Wendorf, Recording
Secretary
Others: Chris Jacques and Ellen Barth of the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources (WDNR)
INTRODUCTION OF NEW COMMITTEE MEMBER
Mr. Maurer introduced the new Committee member, Loren Dieck, who replaces Ms. Suzuki, who recently resigned.
Mr. Dieck is the Operations Supervisor for the Winnebago County Parks Department.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Streeter for approval of the May 23, 2011 minutes, as distributed. Seconded by Crubaugh. Motion
carried 5-0.
CITIZEN’S STATEMENTS
(Items on Agenda)
There were no citizen’s statements.
BUSINESS
1)Review monthly car accident reports from Police Department
Mr. Streeter pointed out that the most car/deer accidents appear to be on county roads than within the City limits.
2)Presentation by Chris Jacques of the WI DNR – Discussion on deer management options
Mr. Jacques gave a brief PowerPoint™ relative to the clover/box traps.
Ms. Crubaugh inquired about the transfer of captive deer. Her understanding is that it is against DRN regulations to
transfer captive deer.
Mr. Jacques stated that is correct.
Ellen Barth, Area Wildlife Supervisor of the WDNR stated that it is against the DNR regulations for the captive deer to
be transferred.
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Mr. Streeter inquired if there is a magic number of feet that a deer can jump over a fence?
Mr. Jacques stated that he had previously done a jump study and found that 8 ft appears to be a good height.
Discussion ensued relative to the various methods of repellents that could be used. It was noted that repellents are
costly and not always the solution as there are a lot of variables.
Reproductive controls are difficult to manage, not cost effective as well as questionable since it may be necessary to
resterilize an animal. The DNR has had limited field trial success in this endeavor and it is currently not allowed by
the DNR.
Mr. Jacques gave brief descriptions of deer traps such as the net caged traps that have steel frames with nets that are
stretched out either 76-inches or 90-inches. These traps are available in collapsible and non collapsible types. The
DNR uses these types of traps as they are moveable and work well in very cold weather. The down-side is that the
animals are visible by the public. The cost is $600-700 per trap. These traps can be modified to minimize the
mortality. He noted that the DNR was able to capture 176 animals in the 12 weeks that they used these traps with an
8% mortality (13 died).
With respect to box traps, they range from $350-450 a trap. The DNR works with a labor union that builds these for
us with no labor included, only materials. The Stevenson box traps have been used with great success, He noted
they are massive at 8’ ft long and 4’ tall, weighing 51 lbs. They are collapsible and very heavy. The “pro” side is that
they are very safe with minimal injury and out of the public eye. The DNR trapped 220 animals and only 3 died.
Heavily baiting the site will really help with capturing using the box trap.
Mr. Nigl inquired if whatever type of trap that they City may use, would there be a need to euthanize? Do you see that
continuing in the long range?
Ms. Barth stated yes, euthanize would need to take place due to chronic wasting.
Mr. Jacques stated that he uses the dropped nets frequently. He uses a flag pole with 40” x 60” net as this type of trap is
very effective and quick. There is a need for a 2-man crew (3 or 4 men is better) to erect these traps easily and noted that
baiting is minimal. His crew trapped 54 deer in 2-3 weeks. Costs are: trigger-$30; net $500-$600; flag pole $100 so the
total cost is about $800-$1,000.
A question arose about the potential to contract Mr. Jacques for his services. Mr. Jacques stated he could be hired on his
personal time, but not on state time. He stated his crews utilize trail cameras which provide information such as the
number of deer that are in the area which maximizes efficiency.
With respect to controlled hunts, sharpshooters are controversial with respect to safety concerns and are difficult to
administer. He noted that chemical immobilization is not a good avenue to follow if it is the intent for the animals go to
food pantries.
Discussion ensued relative the Vulcan Quarry property and the surrounding fence. Mr. Nigl inquired if the Quarry owners
encompass the area with an 8-ft fence instead of a 6-ft. fence, do the deer then become their problem and/or does the
Quarry property then become a sanctuary?
Ms. Barth stated that the gates have to be shut when the trucks leave or the deer can exit the gates also. She suggested
that Mr. Maurer contact the DNR legal counsel to discuss the sanctuary question.
Mr. Streeter stated there are two issues with respect to the Quarry, to-wit: what is the certain life expectancy of the
quarry? And, if they put up an 8 ft fence, then do they quality as a game farm?
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Mr. Cummings inquired if the deer that are now within the boundary of the Quarry are the property of the State, then does
that mean it is the State’s responsibility for paying to get them out.
Ms. Barth stated that would need to be determined by legal counsel on both parties.
3)Discussion on public education opportunities on wildlife management
Mr. Streeter stated he has not had the opportunity to discuss this opportunity with the school district to date. He stated
he will attempt to set up a meeting in the very near future as he would like the urban wildlife management plan as part of
their education.
4)Discussion on future meeting schedule/dates
Discussion ensued relative to changing the future meetings to every other month.
Mr. Nigl suggested that until staff talks to the Quarry owners, there is no reason not to meet every other month.
After considerable discussion, it was the consensus of the Committee to continue with monthly meetings unless there
is a lack of a quorum or insufficient agenda items.
5)Topics for next meeting
The Committee would like discussion on fences at the Quarry and educational opportunities for the public on the next
agenda.
CITIZENS STATEMENTS
(Items not on agenda)
There were no citizen statements.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no other business,
Motion by Streeter for adjournment; seconded by Crubaugh. Motion carried 5-0. The meeting adjourned at
6:03 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Trish Wendorf
Trish Wendorf
Recording Secretary