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HomeMy WebLinkAboutBoy Scouts of America - Plan Review Letters Le-i-Zer—/2 /a2 0 0 ,-5:, ,z, ---,: r - 4 S tate 0 J of Wisconsin \ DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, LABOR, and HUMAN RELATIONS HILL FARMS STATE OFFICE BUILDING P .O. 4802 SHEBOYGAN AVE November 18, 1969 MADISON, WISCONSIN 53701 PLEASE REPLY TO INDUSTRIAL SAFETY 6 BUILDINGS DIV. E-37426 Duwe Precast Concrete Products, Inc. P. O. Box 1277 Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901 Gentlemen; Revised Roof Structural Plans For Office Building Boy Scouts of America Twin Lakes Council. Owner U. S. Highway 41 at Ninth Street Oshkosh, Winnebago County Plan File No. 69-C-1200 Revised roof structural plans for the above project have been stamped "Con- ditionally Approved--See Correspondence and two or more copies of plans are being returned to you. Ind 50.11 One set of plans bearing the stamp of approval saall be kept at tae building site. Yours truly, Carl R. Schaefer /1-- Plan Examiner ?... i i _-71 A (,,t pr, t r.,,k, ol 4 - 04 CRS:nkm t2e-e0. cc: District 4-4--4-5 L. Reimer, Building Inspector Boy Scouts of America Twin Lakes Council 313 North Main Street Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901 Thorn Associates, Inc. P. U. 3oz 217 Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901 t,3„ -` l ift ` , ) - S tate of Wisconsin \ DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, LABOR, and HUMAN RELATIONS HILL FARMS STATE OFFICE BUILDING October 21, 1969 P.D. BOX 37 4802 SHEBOYGAN AVE MADISON, WISCONSIN 53701 PLEASE REPLY TO INDUSTRIAL SAFETY 6 BUILDINGS DIVISION E 37426 Thern 6s Associates, Inc. P. 0. Box 217 Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901 Gentlemen: Office Building Boy Scouts of America Twin Lakes Council, owner U. S. Highway 41 at Ninth Street Oshkosh, Winnebago County Plan File 69-C -1200 Revised structural plans for the above project have been stamped, "Conditionally Approved - -See Correspondence," and two or more copies are being returned to you under separate cover. Ind 50.11 One set of plans bearing the stamp of approval shall be kept at the building site. This approval is for the revised structural floor system that Will be used in this building. Yours truly, Carl R. Schaefer Plan Examiner CRS:clh cc: District 4-4 4 -5 Ed L. Reimer, Bldg. Insp. Boy Scouts of America Rain Lakes Council 313 North Main Street Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901 F fi S tate of Wisconsin \ DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, LABOR, and HUMAN RELATIONS _ mss• HILL FARMS STATE OFFICE , BUILDING [ p� O. BOX 2209 September 29�`y , 1969 4802 SHEBOYGAN AVE. MADISON, WISCONSIN 53701 PLEASE REPLY TO INDUSTRIAL SAFETY & BUILDINGS DIVISION E 37426 Thorn 5 Associates, Inc. P. 0. Box 217 Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901 Gentlemen:' Office Building Boy Scouts of America Twin Lakes Council, owner U. S. Highway 41 at 9th Street Oshkosh, Winnebago County Plan File No. 69-C-1200 Building plans and heating and ventilation plans for the above project have been stamped, "Conditionally Approved - -See Correspondence," and two or more copies are being returned under separate cover. Ind 50.11 One set of plans 'oaring the stamp of approval shall be kept at the building site. This building complex has been classified as frame construction. The garage portion of this complex has been classified as ordinary construction and is completely separated from the frame construction by means of four hour fire - resistive construction. Ind 51.15 (3) Exit hardware shall be proviaed as specified by this section of the building code. Ind 53.09 (4) The brick and stone shall be bonded to the backup block as specified by this section of the Building Code. If metal reenforcing is used then the space between the brick or stone block shall be filled solid with mortar. Ind 54.13 The door to the boiler room shall be a E labeled one and one -half r*our door which is equipped with a self closing device. Yours truly, cc: District 4 -4 - 4 -5 Ed L. Reimer, Bldg. Insp. Carl R. Schaefer Boy Scouts of America Flan Examiner Twin Lakes Council 313 North Main Street CR.S :clh Oshkosh, Wisconsin cl� If State of Wisconsin \ DEPAR OF INDUSTRY LABOR and HUMAN RELATIONS ( , ms HILL FARMS STATE OFFICE BUILDING pL (� P .O. BOX 2209 September 19, 1967 4802 SHEBOYGAN AVE. MADISON, WISCONSIN 53701 PLEASE REPLY TO INDUSTRIAL SAFETY & BUILDINGS DIV. E -37426 Thera Associates, Inc. P. O. Box 217 Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901 Gentlemen: Office Building Boy Scouts of America Twin Lakes Council, Owner U. S. Highway 41 at Ninth Street Oshkosh, Winnebago County Plan File No 69-- C-1200 Our office is behind in examination of building plans at this time of the year due to summer vacations and the sudden influx of plans to be reviewed. Our office has now been authorized overtime so as to try to get caught up on the present backlog of plans to be reviewed. Ind 57.50 Garage buildings of the size in question are required to be constructed to meet ordinary construction requirements. All of the enclosing walla of an ordinary constructed building shall be of noncombustible material. Therefore there shall be no wood or combustible materials on the exterior portion of these types of buildings with the exception of windows and window frames and doors and door frames. Ind 22.18 This requirement for both sexes is a requirement determined by the Wisconsin Statutes. This building has been classified as frame construction due to the fact that the exterior of this building will have combustible materials other than doors, windows and door and window frames. Ind 51.15 (6) Glass wall panels that give the appearance of exit doors shall be effectively guarded. The glass wall panels in the west wall of this building are approximately the same size as the exit doors, therefore giving the appearance of an exit door. The revised plans will be completely reexamined means that the items mentioned in our previous letter will be reviewed and other items in the area of the revisions will be reviewed. The plans are then given a quick review to see if any other items may have been missed. Therm Associates. Inc. -2- September 19, 1969 Upon resubmission the plans will go directly to the examiner that previously examined the plans. There is not any other waiting time due to the backlog of plans. Yours truly, Carl R. Schaefer Plan Examiner CRS:nkm cc: District 4 -4 -4 -5 L'Ld L. Reimer, Building Inspector Boy Scouts of America Twin Lakes Council 313 North Main Street Oshkosh, Wisconsin En THERN ASSOCIATES. INC. Designer* 7 2 0..0 910111 r c1 80• 1i7 O$HIOSM WI]Cl•NS IN 54•7" 2J •140 Plan mere September 16, 1969 Mr. Carl R. Schaefer Plan Examiner Indlistr ia1 Safety & B li _dl na Division (E-37426 P. O. Box ;209 Madison, Wisconsin 53701 Re: Office Building Boy Scouts of America Plan File Nr. 69- C -1 ?00 Dear Mr. Schaefer: On August 6, 1969 we submitted plans and specifications for the subject building to y� >ur office for review and approval. We re- ceived a letter dated September 15 advising us that the plans had not been approved subject to revisions. Since both Phil Thern and myself have always been quite considerate toward your department, and in view of the fact that we have donated our time and effort in serving on the School Code Committee, we are concerned al the lack of consideration given to these plans. We seldom ask for special consideration, and we don't expect any, tut five weeks is too on to wait for a plan review. In reference to the letter we received from you, we will comply with the stipulations set forth and for the most part, we do not question their intent or justification. We would however question the interpretation of the following items and request that you cite in detail the code violations you maintain exist in the !!!esign. Ind 57.50 "This garage shall be constructed entirely of ordinary construction," etc. The garage area is framed with 12" masonry walls and the ron` structure is of concrete in compliance with the code. We would like to know what logic you apply to the "improper" use of the wood veneer exterior applied to a concrete block wall? Possibly our know- ledge is limited, but we cannot accept this citation as being logical or practical, thus we would request clarification in detail. Mr. Carl R. Schaefer, Plan Examiner Septemner 16, 1969 Res Office building -Boy Scouts of America Page 2 Ind 22.18 "A rest room furnished for the purpose of reclining etc," We recognize this requirement but merely wish to express our opinion that whoever determined this facility to be necessary has little respect for construction costs. We will provide a men's lounge in room *27 and no doubt the dust and cob webs will be removed at least once a year. `This building has been classified as frame construction." This statement does not cite any specific reasons and we would be interested in a more complete ex- planat ion. Ind 51.15 "All of the glass wall panels along the west elevation etc." • These windows have been designed for display pur- poses and are no different than any other commercial building. We have had many projects approved with- out the guards and 9014 of the retail stores in the state do not have guards. To be perfectly candid - make up your mind. "When the revised plans are resubmitted to this office" - they will be completely reexamined. It took five weeks to get a response from you the first time around. Surely you have reviewed the plans in detail and we question the wisdom of a "complete" re- examination. We suggest that for the con- sideration of expediency that you review those items you have cited. No wonder you have a hack -log of work if this has become your standard method of procedure. We are highly disappointed with the method of disposing of this plan and, although we are aware of the any problems confronting your de- partment, we cannot help but think of the huge staff and expense in- volved in providing this type of response to a simple request for plan review. We intend to comply with the code and your department, however we fear that this spirit of cooperation should function in two directions,. Sincerely, TNERN ASSOCIATES INC. Richard C. Thern, Pres. • RCT /kn cc - Mr. Ed Reimer, City Bldg. Inspector Boy Scouts of America Mr. Charles Hagberg ErL ( 17.cr.. THERN ASSOCIATES. INC. i)alopner1. 111 OM!O 711117 1 0 004 7!7 0$M7071 M■SCOMI■M 14001 1•14' 111 1317 F]Nllrlert4 September 1E, 19E9 Mr. Duffy Meyer 2211 Oregon Street Oshkosh, Wis. 54901 Re: Headquarters Building Twin Lakes Council Dear Mr. Meyer: We have been advised by the general contractor for the subject pro- ject that the structural system far the floor and canopy may be changed from the original design. We also understand that this material will be donated by a materials supplier. If the proposed changes involve the basic structural system, it will be necessary fot the Owner to re- submit the general plans for 'Industrial Commission" approval. These plans shall bear the stamp of a registered architect or engineer. Those plans should be submitted in triplicate and no work can be started until the conditional approval is returned from Madison. Since it took five weeks to complete the initial review, we suggest that your donor prepare the plans at an early date. in the meantime, all work shall be limited to footings and foundation walls. Since we have stamped the original plans and paid for the plan review, we are required to notify you directly concerning the responsibility of the Owner in this matter. Sincerely, THERN ASSOCIATES, INC. Richard C. Thern, Pres. RCT /kn cc - Boy Scouts of America Mr. . Ed Reimer The Haldon Corporation • F �i' S tate of Wisconsin \ DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, LABOR, and HUMAN RELATIONS _..: HILL FARMS STATE OFFICE BUILDING P.O. BOX 2209 September 1S 1969 4802 WISCONSIN 53 A VE. Y i MADISON, WISCONSIN 53701 PLE ASE REPLY T O : INrit3STRIAL S 6 BUILDINGS DIV. E -37426 Them. Associates, Inc. 712 Ohio Street Oshkosh, Wisconsin 54901 Gentlemen: Office Building Boy Scouts of America Twin Lakes Council, Owner U. S. Highway 41 at Ninth Street Oshkosh, Winnebago County Plan File No. 69 -C -1200 Plans for the above mentioned project have been stamped "Not Approved - -See Cor- respondence" and two sets of plans have been returned to you under separate cover. The following are some of the reasons why the plans have been stamped as such. Ind 50.10 (4) Submit complete calculations for this project. Ind 57.50 The garage in this building shall be completely separated from the rest of the building by means of four -hour fire- resistive construction. Therefore the stairway passageway from the basement shall be a complete four -hour fire - resistive enclosure. The walls shall be at least 12 inch concrete block and the door at the head of the stairway shall be an "A" labeled fire door that is equipped with a self - closing device. Ind 57.50 This garage shall be constructed entirely of ordinary construction, therefore all of the wood that you have shown on the outside of this building shall be removed or replaced with noncombustible materials. Ind 54.02 The two exits that you have shown from the basement are located relatively close together therefore an additional exit shall be provided from i the basement so as to provide the best possible means of egress. Ind 54.06 Rooms that accommodate more than ten persons shall have a standard 3 foot 4 inch exit door and if the rooms accommodate more than 25 persons the door shall swing out. It appears that there are two or three rooms in this building that will have over these capacities therefore the exit doors from these rooms shall be changed accordingly. When the revised plans are resubmitted to this office please state the number of persons that will occupy each room. Thern Associates, Inc. -2- September 15, 1969 Ind 22.18 A rest room furnished for the purpose of reclining shall be provided in this building. The rest room shall be so located so that both sexes may use this room or an additional lounge or rest room shall be provided for the male employes. Ind 54.13 The door to the boiler room shall be a "R" labeled 1 -1/2 hour door that is equipped with a self - closing device. This building has been classified as frame construction. Ind 51.15 All of the glass wall panels along the west elevation of this building shall be guarded as specified by this section of the Building Code. Ind 53.09 (4) When the revised plans are resubmitted to this office please show the size and gauge of the metal reinforcing that will be used. The reinforcing shall comply with this section of the Building Code. Ind 51.15 Exit hardware shall be provided as specified by this section of the Building Code. The four -hour separation between the garage and the rest of the building shall include the walls, doors and ceiling of the garage. When the revised plans are resubmitted to this office they will be completely reexamined. Yours truly, Carl R. Schaefer Plan Examiner CRS : rake cc: District 4-4-4-5 BEd L. Reimer, Building Inspector Boy Scouts of America Twin Lakes Council 313 North Main Street Oshkosh, Wisconsin