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January 4, 2011
PRESENT: David Borsuk, Jeffrey Thorns, Thomas Fojtik, John Hinz, Tony Palmeri, Kathleen
Propp, Dennis McHugh, Robert Vajgrt,
EXCUSED: Ed Bowen, Donna Lohry, Karl Nollenberger
STAFF: Darryn Burich, Director of Planning Services; David Buck, Principal Planner; Steve
Gohde, Assistant Director of Public Works; Chris Strong, Director of Transportation;
Deborah Foland, Recording Secretary
Chairperson Fojtik called the meeting to order at 4:00 pm. Roll call was taken and a quorum declared
present.
The minutes of December 21, 2010 were approved as presented. (VajgrtBorsuk)
I.A. GRANT PRIVILEGE IN THE RIGHT- OF-WAY FOR PLACEMENT OF THREE
MONITORING WELLS AT THE CORNER OF NORTH MAIN STREET AND EAST
STERLING AVENUE
The petitioner is requesting a privilege in the right -of -way for the installation of 3 monitoring wells:
-2 on East Sterling Avenue east of North Main Street.
-1 on North Main Street at the northeast corner of North Main Street and Vilas Avenue
Mr. Buck presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area and explained that the
proposed monitoring wells are part of an environmental investigation concerning petroleum release at
834 North Main Street. He also reviewed the conditions recommended for this request which are
standard for privilege in street installations.
There was no discussion on this item.
I.B. ACCEPT STORM SEWER EASEMENTS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS ON
PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN KOELLER STREET AND THE TIPLER
SCHOOL AREA STORMWATER DETENTION BASIN
The Department of Public Works is requesting acceptance of multiple storm sewer easements running
between South Koeller Street right -of -way east to the Tipler School Area Stormwater Detention Basin
(TDB) located over property at 300 South Koeller Street, 251/255 South Westfield Street and 240/250
South Westfield Street.
Mr. Buck presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the site plan for the
proposed easements.
Mr. Thorns asked where the area of the stone riprap lined channel would be located.
Steve Gohde, Assistant Director of Public Works, responded that the channel would be located just
east of Koeller Street and would continue on the south side of the drive entrance of Landmark Plaza
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and would then wrap around to the north. He further stated that he does not anticipate water to be
present in the channel very frequently.
Mr. Thorns also questioned if there was a drainage ditch there currently, why rip rap and stone was
being used rather than natural covering, and who would be responsible to maintain this area.
Mr. Gohde replied that there is currently a drainage ditch in this location however it is very old and
that natural materials were not being used as they would not be suitable covering over the box culvert.
He further stated that storm damage would be the responsibility of the City to maintain however
mowing would be the responsibility of the property owners.
Motion by Borsuk to approve the consent agenda as requested with the following conditions to
be applied to Item IA.:
1) The monitoring wells are installed in a manner that is approved by the Department of Public
Works with no modifications or changes in construction procedure without prior approval by
the Department of Public Works.
2) If no longer needed, the monitoring wells are properly abandoned in accordance with City
standards and under the direction of the Department of Public Works.
3) Any problem which may arise as a result of the placement of the monitoring wells be the
responsibility of the petitioner, contractors and owner to correct in coordination with the
Department of Public Works.
4) All appropriate permits are obtained prior to the start of placement of the monitoring wells.
S) The monitoring wells be modified or removed immediately upon the request of the City.
6) The petitioner and contractors secure and submit to the City Clerk a separate insurance policy
which names the City as an additional insured with a minimum coverage of $200, 000 per person
and $500, 000 in general aggregate.
7) It is the responsibility of the petitioner to file in a timely manner a new insurance certificate with
the City Clerk upon expiration of an existing certificate. Failure to do so will result in the
revocation of the privilege in street upon 10 days notice.
8) The petitioner and contractors execute hold harmless agreements with the City.
9) The facility is part of and documented with Digger's Hotline system.
Seconded by Vajgrt. Motion carried 8 -0.
H.A. DESIGNATE SEGMENT OF ELMWOOD AVENUE AS A PEDESTRIAN MALL
H.B. PRIVILEGE IN THE RIGHT- OF-WAY TO PLACE PEDESTRIAN MALL AND
STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS
The University is making two requests in order to implement general vehicular closure of a portion of
Elmwood Avenue for a pedestrian mall. The first action is to designate Elmwood Avenue from
approximately 200 feet south of W. Lincoln Avenue to W. Irving Avenue as a pedestrian mall. The
second action is a request to install a pedestrian mall and streetscape improvements in the pedestrian
mall.
Mr. Burich presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area and explained that the
University was requesting this action to create a safer pedestrian environment in the area that connects
the campus residence halls, the Student Success Center and Reeve Memorial Union with the rest of the
campus. He reviewed the land use in the surrounding area as well as a diagram of the University's
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layout and explained that the pedestrian mall was not yet designed and discussed the conceptual plans
and features for the proposed mall. He also explained that the area would still remain as City right -of-
way which would give the City the ability to reopen the street at a later date. He also discussed the 26
foot lane which was provided to support emergency vehicles through this area and the cul -de -sac to be
created on Elmwood Avenue. The Traffic Review Board approved this request and numerous
meetings have been held to discuss this issue. This would not be an actual street vacation as the City
would still retain the rights to the right -of -way and this request is consistent with the University's
Master Plan. He also reviewed the conditions recommended for both requests.
Mr. McHugh stated that he did not understand what the point of this was and voiced his concern with
re- routing traffic from Elmwood Avenue as he felt it would be a safety issue.
Mr. Burich replied that the point of the request for the pedestrian mall was to service the students by
eliminating the traffic in this area and making things safer for pedestrians. Both emergency services
and the Transportation Department have reviewed and approved of this request.
Mr. Borsuk questioned how the reconstruction of Elmwood Avenue would fit into this and the
destination of the vehicles that pass through this area.
Mr. Burich responded that Elmwood Avenue was scheduled to be reconstructed in this year's Capital
Improvement Program.
Chris Strong, Director of the Transportation, added that traffic counts had been completed on this area
however it would be difficult to determine the destination of the vehicles passing through this area.
Mr. Thorns asked where the traffic would be re- directed to and if those streets would be able to handle
the additional volume.
Mr. Strong responded that traffic would be re- routed to Algoma Boulevard or Elmwood Avenue to
Cherry Street or Wisconsin Street going northbound and Cherry Street and Wisconsin Street going
southbound. He did not feel there should be issues with the additional volume of traffic on these
streets.
Mr. Thorns commented that he felt the additional traffic on Algoma Boulevard was going to be
difficult.
Mr. Burich stated that Algoma Boulevard was more of a controlled environment as there are several
traffic lights on this street and a University bypass to the south was being considered in the future.
Mr. Thorns then questioned if crossings would be improved on Algoma Boulevard due to the increased
traffic volume.
Mr. Strong replied that he anticipated a 25% increase in traffic on Algoma Boulevard and he was not
too concerned with it at this point.
Mr. Hinz inquired why Elmwood Avenue was continuing on after the pedestrian mall area instead of
closing it off completely.
Mr. Strong responded that the University would have to comment on that matter.
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Joan Mueller, 1139 Cherry Street, stated that she felt the additional traffic on Cherry Street would be
problematic as the student parking on the street is already heavy and that adequate emergency access
was important to the neighborhood. She voiced her concerns with if the city streets in the surrounding
area had the capacity to handle the additional traffic as backups occur now when school lets out and
she felt that additional stop signs may be considered on Cherry Street.
Joseph Malkowsky, 802 Vine Avenue, stated that if there were no pedestrian/vehicular crash data
concerns regarding this area, why we were considering closing off a part of Elmwood Avenue. He had
concerns with the two minute delay in fire response time mentioned by the Fire Department at a
previous meeting. He also commented on the future plans to close Algoma Boulevard and if Elmwood
Avenue would be re- opened in the future, he felt it would be a waste of money to construct the
pedestrian mall at this time. He also questioned how many pedestrians were crossing the street to
justify this.
Don Tenor, 1202 Algoma Boulevard, stated that if traffic counts show that 3000 vehicles utilize
Elmwood Avenue daily and 6500 vehicles utilize Algoma Boulevard, pedestrians should be able to
cross Elmwood Avenue safely. He further commented that vehicles on Algoma Boulevard are passing
Read Elementary School and these students are much younger than the University students and
although this proposal would make things nicer for the University, it creates other problems for the rest
of the community.
Mike Lyster, 612 Elmwood Avenue, stated that he has lived there for 30 years and drives Elmwood
Avenue every day to get to his shop on the north side of the city. He has seen many near misses on
this street over the years and felt that the corner of West Irving Avenue and Elmwood Avenue is very
dangerous as there is not good visibility at this intersection. He felt that Elmwood Avenue should be
closed at Algoma Boulevard all the way to West Lincoln Avenue instead although he noted that there
are loading docks by the library that are utilized for deliveries for the University that would no longer
be accessible if this was done. He concluded with the statement that he liked the idea of removing
traffic from Elmwood Avenue; he just did not feel that this was the best way to accomplish it.
Raymond Schmelter, 645 Amherst Avenue, stated that he has a hard time getting out of his driveway at
times due to the traffic and both he and his neighbor are in favor of this request.
Aaron Campbell, 424 Wisconsin Street, stated that the Oshkosh Student Association was supportive of
this plan and that both staff and students utilizing the counseling center and resident halls in this area
would benefit from it. Students are crossing this street numerous times daily and although there may
not have been pedestrian crashes in the past, there have been near misses and this proposal should slow
traffic down. He further commented that both staff and students support this request.
Bernard Pitz, 617 West Irving Avenue, stated that he has lived in this area for 46 years and also owns
apartments on Wisconsin Street and voiced his concerns with the increase of traffic on Irving Avenue
and Wisconsin Street due to closing a portion of Elmwood Avenue. He felt that the University should
install fencing along Elmwood Avenue instead restricting crossing the street to specific areas. He also
stated that there have not been any accidents on Elmwood Avenue to justify this action and he spoke
with the Fire Chief about the matter and he was not in favor of closing any streets. He also had
concerns with emergency response time to the neighborhood and commented about the disturbing
music that can be heard from his home coming from events at the University. He felt that the
University's "land grab" had to stop and also commented on his concerns that the designated
emergency lane on the plans may be in use for an event at such a time that emergency vehicles would
need to access it.
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Tom Sonnleitner, representing the University, 800 Algoma Boulevard, stated that this request was part
of the University's Master Plan and it was included in the City's Comprehensive Plan since 2005 and
in the University's planning process since 2001 or 2002. The reasoning for it was for the safety of the
students, and in a lightly traveled area such as this one, it makes sense. There are 1000 students living
in the residence halls and another 1000 visiting the Student Success Center daily as well as the students
living in the area surrounding it. Although there have not been any accidents in the past, safety was
their primary concern. A 26 foot path would be provided for a fire lane and the design of the
pedestrian mall was not completed at this time. He confirmed that loading docks were present in the
rear area of Reeve Union and discussed crash data statistics. He further stated that the University was
willing to work with the Plan Commission and Common Council to come up with an appropriate
solution and that they wanted to create safe passage for both students and vehicles in this area.
Mr. Hinz questioned if a greater plan existed to extend this further in the future.
Mr. Sonnleitner replied that the University's Master Plan calls for the closure of Algoma Boulevard
from Dempsey Hall to Woodland Avenue and turning both Algoma Boulevard and High Avenue into
two -way streets. Each of these actions will be brought back to the City for approval at the time the
University was prepared to implement this plan.
Mr. Hinz commented that Elmwood Avenue is a bypass for the University area and questioned what
the suggested route would be to bypass this area if Elmwood Avenue is closed off to through traffic.
Mr. Sonnleitner responded that most people use Algoma Boulevard or High Avenue through the
University area depending on where they live.
Mr. Palmeri inquired about the issues brought up by citizens regarding emergency access and activities
being held in the pedestrian mall.
Mr. Sonnleitner replied that they were not planning on using the pedestrian mall as a set up area for
University activities and that gatherings or events would be held on the lawn areas.
Mr. McHugh stated that issues always come down to safety and that students do not use the crossing
mechanisms on Algoma Boulevard to activate the traffic signals now. The closing of Elmwood
Avenue will be an inconvenience to citizens and is step one in the process to shut down High Avenue
and Algoma Boulevard and is a waste of money. We do not have a completed plan for the pedestrian
mall or know the consequences of this action and should not vote on this request today.
Quinn, a Taylor Hall student resident, attested to the safety benefits of closing Elmwood Avenue as
crossing this street is dangerous for pedestrians. He further commented that he uses the signal
crossings on Algoma Boulevard every day and that the creation of the pedestrian mall would benefit
campus greatly.
Mr. Palmeri commented that if the Oshkosh Police and Fire Departments supported this request, he
would support it as well, however the staff report refers to the fact that emergency services providers
"are not opposed to this request" which leads him to inquire if that means they are in support of this
request.
Mr. Burich responded that with emergency services providers, closing any street creates some
concerns however when looking at what the University is trying to achieve, they do not have issues
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with the closure of Elmwood Avenue. The City is also retaining the rights for the 26 foot access for
emergency providers.
Mr. Borsuk commented that he supports this issue as the University is the third largest in the state and
occupies the smallest piece of property. He wants to make the campus successful as the University is
an important industry in the community and for a variety of reasons this is a positive step.
Mr. Thorns stated that he did not feel there was enough information at this time such as the
University's long range plan. Pedestrians are heavily traveling the area on Elmwood Avenue but he
would like to see the entire plan before voting on one piece of it. He would also like to have the Fire
Chief present to answer questions regarding this matter. He further commented that he understands
that the University is trying to create a contained campus but he would need further information on the
issue.
Ms. Propp commented that residents presented important points and although the University does have
a Master Plan for the campus, she felt that the proposed pedestrian mall should stand on its own.
There will be a ripple effect for neighboring streets but overall, it's a good plan.
Mr. Vajgrt stated that it had been mentioned that the response time for emergency services would
experience a two minute delay from the main station, however the Algoma and Murdock fire station
would probably be able to service this area quicker than the downtown station. He further commented
that he felt it was a good idea.
Motion by McHugh to lay over the designation of the area of Elmwood Avenue approximately
200 feet south of W. Lincoln Avenue to W. Irving Avenue as a pedestrian mall and the privilege
in the right -of -way to create said mall and to allow pedestrian and streetscape improvements.
Seconded by Hinz.
Mr. Palmeri questioned what would be the implications of laying this item over to a future meeting.
Mr. Gohde responded that Elmwood Avenue was the first street scheduled for reconstruction this year
and they were attempting to bid out the project in late February with construction to begin in March if
possible.
Mr. Palmeri then questioned if the Common Council acted on this item at the second meeting in
January, if this would still leave adequate time to bid the project out.
Mr. Gohde replied that it would depend on if the item requires two readings before the Council would
act on it.
Mr. Burich stated that the Common Council could waive the second reading if necessary.
Mr. Thorns questioned what the intent of laying the item over was.
Mr. McHugh responded that the traffic problems by Lincoln School need to be addressed and we
should do a better job of alerting the public about this action. He also stated that we do not know what
the concept is for the proposed pedestrian mall.
Ms. Propp stated that she did not feel the need to lay the item over until the next meeting as the issues
could be addressed at the Common Council level.
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Mr. Borsuk commented that questions may be outstanding in some people's minds however he felt that
the intent was not to lay the item over but to kill the project.
Mr. Thorns stated that the Plan Commission's duty was to make a recommendation to the Common
Council and he felt it was shirking their responsibility by not looking further into the matter before
voting on the item.
Mr. Hinz commented that he did not think that it was an attempt to kill the project and he would like to
see the University's Master Plan and hear from both the Police and Fire Chiefs regarding their opinion
on the matter.
Mr. Borsuk questioned if there was no timeline on the motion to lay the item over.
Mr. Thorns suggested that the motion be amended to lay the item over until the next meeting of the
Plan Commission.
Mr. Palmeri stated that he felt the issues regarding the public safety concerns needed to be addressed
and he thought the Police and Fire Chiefs need to be present to respond to these concerns.
Motion carried 6 -1 -1. ( Ayes- Borsuk /Thoms /Hinz /Palmeri/McHughIVajgrt. Nays- Propp.
Abstained- Fojtik.) (Mr. Fojtik is employed by the University)
III. PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE CHAPTER 30,
SECTION 30 -4 NONCONFORMING USE REGULATIONS
The City Department of Community Development requests review and approval of an amendment to
the City of Oshkosh Zoning Ordinance repealing and recreating Section 30 -4 Nonconforming Structure
and Use Regulations, which is a portion of Article II: General Provisions.
Mr. Buck presented the item and reviewed the draft document. He stated that the purpose of revising
the Nonconforming Structure and Use regulations is primarily to address concerns brought forward by
the County Judicial System during regular enforcement duties of the City's Zoning Office in regard to
the clarity of the regulations. Board of Appeals decisions have been challenged in court and it was
suggested in the ruling that the code be redrafted to be clarified and updated as well as reflect and
define practices used during regulation and enforcement action.
Commission members discussed issues regarding the ability to rebuild a nonconforming use,
definitions of structures, driveways, and other sections of the regulations. Discussion also ensued
regarding the ability to rezone properties to allow a nonconforming use and the elimination of
nonconforming uses over time that are inappropriate. The Board of Appeals process to obtain a
variance to the code was also discussed as well as if another workshop should be held to continue
discussion on the proposed text amendment prior to acting on the item.
Mr. Palmeri stated that he missed the last workshop on this matter and would prefer to lay the item
over until a future meeting to give him more time to further review the document.
Mr. McHugh questioned if contractors were asked to participate in some way with this.
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Mr. Burich responded that new regulations are usually presented to the Chamber, Chamco, and local
developers to receive input on the matter however this was not the case in this situation. This was just
clarifying the language in old text to make it more understandable and to uphold decisions made on
enforcement matters.
Ms. Propp left the meeting at 5:55 pm.
Mr. Thorns questioned if the Board of Appeals had reviewed this document.
Mr. Burich replied that they had not at this time. Various departments of the city reviewed it for
comment, but it could be presented to the Board of Appeals members for review prior to bringing it
back to the Plan Commission.
Motion by Palmeri to lay over the repealing of the existing Zoning Code Section 30 -4:
Nonconforming Structure and Use Regulations and recreate it as submitted.
Seconded by McHugh. Motion carried 7 -0.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at approximately 5:59 pm. (Vajgrt /Thoms)
Respectfully submitted,
Darryn Burich
Director of Planning Services
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