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PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
MARCH 6, 2001
PRESENT:Lee Bettes, Melanie Bloechl, David Borsuk, Achim Reschenberg, John Ruppenthal,
James Smith, Fred Timmerman
STAFF:Jackson Kinney, Director of Community Development; John Bluemke, Principal
Planner; Darlene Matulle, Recording Secretary
Chairman Borsuk called the meeting to order. Roll call was taken and a quorum declared present.
The minutes of February 20, 2001 were approved as distributed.
I:CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT / 400 D CITY CENTER
City Center Associates, petitioner/owner, requests review and approval of a Conditional Use Permit
(CUP) for the expansion of a day care center at 400-D City Center (formerly known as Park Plaza Mall).
Mr. Smith inquired if the day care center is limited to the hours noted?
Mr. Bluemke noted these are the hours as stated by the petitioner.
There was discussion on the outdoor play areas.
Mr. Kurt Koeppler and Mr. James Larson, two of the principals of City Center, noted the play areas
meet all applicable codes.
Motion by Ruppenthal that the request is consistent with standards set forth in Section 30-11(D)
of the Zoning Ordinance and to move approval of a conditional use permit for expansion of the
day care center at City Center Mall. Seconded by Reschenberg. Motion carried 7-0.
II:DEDICATION OF LAND FOR STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY / HAVENWOOD RD.
Carow Land Surveying Co. Inc., petitioner, Midwest Real Estate Development Co. Inc., owner, requests
review and approval of the dedication of land for the extension of Havenwood Road from its westerly
terminus to North Oakwood Road.
Ms. Susan Hawkins, 2834 Wyldewood Rd., inquired what is R-3?
Mr. Bluemke replied multiple dwelling district.
Mr. Smith noted this portion of Havenwood is not meeting the intersecting street on the west side of
Oakwood Road. Is this correct?
Mr. Bluemke replied that is correct. There is platted land south of where Havenwood Rd. is being
dedicated. The agreement between the City, the Town and the developer was to accept the offset.
Motion by Ruppenthal to accept the dedication of land for the extension of Havenwood Road as
proposed. Seconded by Bettes. Motion carried 7-0.
Plan Commission Minutes Page 2March 6, 2001
III:DEDICATION OF LAND FOR STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY / WYLDEWOOD RD.
& ACCEPT EASEMENT FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES
Carow Land Surveying Co. Inc., petitioner, Midwest Real Estate Development Co. Inc., owner, requests
review and approval of the dedication of land for the extension of Wyldewood Rd. from the east side of
Wyldewood’s intersection with N. Oakwood Rd. to Witzel Ave., and accept a permanent easement for
public purposes on the northern end of Maryden Road.
Mr. Bluemke noted that if approved, the street would be named Wyldewood Drive versus Road due to
addressing problems. Emergency service personnel were contacted and there was not a problem with
this minor change.
Ms. Theresa Bowman, 38 Maryden Rd., inquired what the purpose of the cul-de-sac is at the end of
Maryden Road.
Mr. Bluemke noted this would be a public turn around on the petitioner's property.
Ms. Schultz, 22 Maryden Rd., stated she is opposed to the development. She noted they were previously
told that Maryden Rd. would be extended. Will she be assessed for street work to accommodate this
development?
Mr. Bluemke believed the overall development plan that he has seen did not show Maryden Rd.
extended. The proposed easement will be for a public turn around only, the right-of-way is not being
extended. Mr. Bluemke noted that Ms. Schultz's property is in the town and not in the City. Town
residents are not assessed charges for development taking place in the City.
Mr. Smith inquired if Maryden Rd. will be the only access to proposed Lot 2?
Mr. Bluemke believed there may be other access points, but that depends on how the overall
development proceeds.
Mrs. Bloechl wondered why this area isn't being platted before the roads are being dedicated?
Mr. Bluemke replied this is a multi-family development and a plat is not required. Any proposed
development will need to comply with applicable Municipal Codes.
Motion by Ruppenthal to accept street right-of-way for Wyldewood Dr. and the permanent
easement for public purposes as requested with the condition that the petitioner be responsible
fornormal costs associated with street construction and utility installation. Seconded by Bettes.
Motion carried 7-0.
IV:REZONING / SOUTHEAST CORNER OF WISCONSIN ST AND PACKER AVE
Russell Williams, petitioner for 200 East LLC, owner, requests review and approval of the rezoning of
property located at the southeast corner of Wisconsin Street and Packer Avenue from C-2 General
Commercial District to R-3 Multiple Dwelling District.
Plan Commission MinutesPage 3March 6, 2001
Mr. Russell Williams (Sr.) and Mr. Russell Williams (Jr.) appeared to answer questions.
Motion by Bloechl to move approval of the rezoning from C-2 to R-3 as requested. Seconded by
Timmerman. Motion carried 7-0.
V:STREET NAME CHANGES:
FROM WARREN ROAD TO UNIVERSITY AVENUE
FROM PEARL AVENUE TO UNIVERSITY AVENUE
The City of Oshkosh Plan Commission is recommending that the street name for Warren Road and a
portion of Pearl Avenue (from a point just east of Dawes Street extended easterly to N. Main Street) be
changed to University Avenue.
Atty. Jack Kelly, Dempsey, Magnusen, Williamson & Lampe, 1 Pearl Ave., stated this would be an
inconvenience for all businesses and property owners on Pearl Ave. to change stationery, business cards,
bank accounts, etc. Individuals he has spoken to would prefer to see the entire section changed to Pearl
Avenue. The only structure on the Warren Rd. section is owned by the University and it would appear
to be a lot easier for UW-O to change their records for one building versus all these businesses and
property owners. Atty. Kelly submitted a copy of a letter previously delivered to the Planning Services
Division Office opposing this request (said letter on file at the Planning Services Division office).
Mr. Jim Luft, 320 S. Eagle St., owner of Jackson Glass, agreed with Atty. Kelly.
Mr. Tim Cross, M & I Bank, also agreed with Atty. Kelly. This would be an inconvenience for the
Bank and all its customers. He noted the Bank recently changed its name and they still haven't received
allthe bills from that. He stated he understands the redevelopment of this area is important to the City,
and supports that, but the street name should stay Pearl Avenue.
Ms. Sue Andrews, Murken Insurance Company, also opposed changing the street name Pearl Avenue.
Mr. Tom Grogan, Special Assistant to the Chancellor, UW-O, stated the University would support the
proposed change, as well as the overall redevelopment that is proceeding in this area. Five to ten years
down the road this whole area will look different and the changes being proposed today will help
integrate some of the plans that UW-O is looking at as well. Having a major street adjacent to the River
that links the University area to the downtown would be beneficial to the overall community.
Mr. Larry Daniels, Valley Financial, did not believe changing a street name will have that much affect
on the University's identity. Last year he went through a name change and is still paying for those bills.
This change will not help his business or his customers.
Atty. Kelly noted that Attorney Thompson also opposes this request.
Mr. Robert Kujawa noted he is the citizen who proposed University Avenue. He continued that street
names are very important. Take a look at Lombardi Avenue, College Avenue, Poberezny Road, Main
Street. He believed this is the best long term answer for this overall area due to the redevelopment
occurring and the University's long term plans.
Plan Commission MinutesPage 4March 6, 2001
There was discussion on the University's long term plans and how that will affect traffic. Mr. Kujawa
noted Warren/Pearl will be the main street into the University area, as well as the overall campus.
Mrs. Bloechl noted the Common Council has not approved of any plans for the University area.
Mr. Kujawa noted that is correct, but the Council has approved of the redevelopment of this area and
believed it all ties together.
Ms. Shirley Mattox, 1313 Jackson St., felt changing the street name to University Ave. is good and
would bridge a gap. She did not believe Pearl Ave. has the same connotation.
Mr. Bluemke noted that correspondence had been received from Mr. William Carey and Mr. Bob Main,
who both operate businesses on Pearl Ave., opposing the street name change. A telephone call had also
been received from Mr. Peter Jungbacker of 222 Pearl Ave. approving of the street name change.
Mr. Bettes felt this overall area and corridor needs to be looked at, but not piece meal. He opposed the
street name change. He felt Pearl Ave. would probably be better, but there appears to be a problem with
the small section of Pearl Ave. that would remain. Someone will end up with a street name change.
Mr. Ruppenthal believed the street name should be Pearl Avenue. Changing the name from Pearl Ave.
would be a large expense for all businesses, customers and property owners in this area.
Mr. Kinney noted that property owners have been notified on two previous occasions regarding this
issue. If the Plan Commission prefers Pearl Ave., that is fine. A recommendation is needed from the
Plan Commission so this can move forward.
Mr. Smith stated he supports the name change to University Avenue.
Motion by Smith to move approval of changing Warren Rd. and a portion of Pearl Ave. from a
point east of Dawes St. extended easterly to N. Main St. to University Avenue. Seconded by
Timmerman. Motion lost 3-4. (AYE: Reschenberg, Smith, Timmerman. NAY: Bettes, Bloechl,
Ruppenthal, Borsuk).
Motion by Bloechl to move approval of changing Warren Rd. to Pearl Ave. Seconded by
Ruppenthal. Motion carried 7-0.
Discussion ensued on possible street names for the small section of Pearl Ave. from Wisconsin St. to
Dawes Street. Suggestions included College or Campus or something of the like, with Place or Lane. It
was the consensus to propose Campus Place.
It was the consensus to discuss the Comprehensive Plan update at a later date.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at approximately 5:15 pm.
Respectfully submitted,
JOHN C. BLUEMKE, Principal Planner