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PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
JUNE 5, 2001
PRESENT:Lurton Blassingame, Melanie Bloechl, Steven Gehling, Donald Krueger, Achim
Reschenberg, John Ruppenthal, James Smith, Fred Timmerman, and David Borsuk,
Chairman
EXCUSED:Lee Bettes, and Don Pressley
STAFF:Darryn Burich, Principal Planner, Susan Kepplinger, Principal Planner, Jackson Kinney,
Director of Community Development, David Patek, Director of Public Works, and Vickie
Rand, Recording Secretary
Chairman Borsuk called the meeting to order. Roll call was taken and a quorum declared present.
The minutes of May 15, 2001 were approved as mailed. (Timmerman/Bloechl) Unanimous.
I:CONSENT AGENDA
A:Privilege In Street/Jackson St.; South of Murdock Ave.
Delta Environmental Consultants, petitioner, requests the Plan Commission review and approve a
Privilege In Street to allow the placement of a 9” diameter monitoring well in a City right-of-way. The
well is being requested to investigate a leaking underground storage tank at 415 Murdock Avenue.
B:Land Division: Patriot Lane
Midwest Real Estate Company Inc., petitioner and owner, requests the Plan Commission review and
approve a land division for property located on proposed Patriot Lane, which area is zoned
R-3 PD Multiple Dwelling District with a Planned Development Overlay.
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C:Extraterritorial Preliminary Plat – 1 Addition to Olde Apple Acres
Carow Land Surveying Co. Inc, petitioner for Algoma Land Development LLC., owner, requests the
Plan Commission review and approve an extraterritorial plat for property generally located west of
Leonard Point Road and north of STH 21 in the Town of Algoma. The Plan Commission approved the
final plat for Olde Apple Acres at its November 5, 2000 meeting. This preliminary plat represents the
first addition to that plat.
Plan Commission Minutes Page 2June 5, 2001
D:Extraterritorial Preliminary Plat – Jones Plat
Reinhard Roehlig, petitioner for Ronald Jones, owner, requests the Plan Commission review and
approve an extraterritorial preliminary plat for property generally located west of Leonard Point Road
and north of Duchess Lane in the Town of Algoma.
E:Extraterritorial Land Division: Sand Pit Road
Reinhard Roehlig, petitioner for Tom Hughes, owner, requests the Plan Commission review and approve
an extraterritorial land division for property generally located at 4105 Sand Pit Road in the Town of
Omro.
F:Extraterritorial Land Division: Black Wolf Ave
Reinhard Roehlig, petitioner for Benjamin Karau, owner, requests the Plan Commission review and
approve an extraterritorial land division for property generally located at the corner of Black Wolf
Avenue and Country Club Road in the Town of Black Wolf.
Mr. Gehling and Mr. Smith asked for Item “C” to be pulled for further discussion.
Attorney Yakes stated that he and Mr. Halverson were present to answer any questions the Plan
Commission may have regarding Olde Apple Acres.
Mr. Smith questioned the conservancy areas and their access points from Olde Apple Acres.Attorney
Yakes stated the two outlots were water detention areas that would be maintained by the Town of
Algoma. Mr. Halverson, Carow Land Surveying, added that the two outlots in the northwest corner of
the plat were in a wetland area, and would be dedicated to the Town of Algoma whose intention is to
extend Westbreeze Drive to Leonard Point Road. He also stated there were easements, not shown on the
map that lead to the back of the plat for trail purposes.
Mr. Gehling questioned why the Department of Public Works is making the recommendation for
Westbreeze Drive to terminate in a cul-de-sac rather than becoming a potential connection to STH 21,
and is also working with the State Department of Transportation (DOT) for access to Highway 21, rather
than securing a recommendation by the Department of Natural Resources through that wetland area. Mr.
Kinney stated that because the potential connection is onto a state highway, the decision will be made by
the State Department of Transportation.
Mrs. Bloechl questioned how a plat could be planned without ingress and egress points for Highway 21.
Attorney Yakes stated there were other points of ingress and egress at Pierce Lane and Duchess Lane to
Leonards Point Road, and the Town of Algoma was planning to extend Westbreeze Drive.
Motion by Timmerman for approval of the Consent Agenda as proposed with conditions, if
any, as noted on the Staff Report. Seconded by Krueger. Motion carried 9-0.
Plan Commission Minutes Page 3June 5, 2001
II:AUTHORIZATION TO ACQUIRE SIDEWALK EASEMENTS – KOELLER STREET
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AND 20 AVE
The Department of Public Works requests the Plan Commission to review and approve acquisition of
easements from 41 properties to permit construction of pedestrian access on the east side of Koeller
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Street from 9 Avenue through South Park Avenue, and on 20 Avenue from South Park west to a point
just past the Wisconsin and Southern Railroad right of way in order to construct a 5 foot wide concrete
sidewalk.
Dan Lichtenberg, Cumberland Drive, Fond du Lac, Manager of Culvers Restaurant, stated there are two
driveways into Culvers, and he was concerned about both driveways being closed at the same time
during construction.
Mr. Kinney invited Mr. Patek, Director of Public Works, to answer questions at this time.
Mr. Patek stated they would try and have at least one driveway open at all times.
Theresa, representing Arby’s, stated they only have one driveway, and they were concerned about it
remaining open during construction. She questioned who would be responsible for any damages to the
area, (i.e. if the City would replant grass) and who was responsible for the cost of the sidewalk.
Mr. Patek stated the sidewalk would be constructed in the public right-of-way, and any plantings in that
area would be removed and not replaced because they were planted in the right-of-way. He noted the
restoration of grass would be done by the City in areas torn up outside of the right-of-way. Mr. Patek
also stated the sidewalk would be the property owners expense and explained the options to pay up front
or have it reflected on their taxes over a 10 – 15 year period.
Mr. Gehling questioned who would be responsible for snow removal. Mr. Patek stated it was a public
sidewalk and would have to be maintained by the property owner.
Mr. Reschenberg questioned if pedestrian traffic lights or signals would be put up at the intersection of
20th Avenue and Koeller Street. Mr. Patek stated pedestrian traffic signs will be put up allowing
pedestrians to cross, and the signals would be set according to the crossing distance.
Mr. Smith stated he felt the sidewalks would be dangerous for pedestrian or bicycle traffic, as vehicular
traffic would be watching other vehicles and not the traffic on the sidewalks when turning into
businesses along Koeller Street.
Mr. Krueger questioned if easements were in place to avoid utility service. Mr. Patek stated easements
were proposed to allow construction of the sidewalk, and won’t interrupt the use of utilities.
Mrs. Bloechl questioned who would be responsible for the cost of any utilities that would need to be
moved. Mr. Patek stated the utility would be responsible for the cost, however, the property owner
would have to pay the cost if a pole needed to be moved and turn the power off if necessary.
Mrs. Bloechl questioned how the cost of the sidewalk was assessed when the property included
businesses that were located 2-3 deep. Mr. Patek stated the cost is borne by the person who owns the
frontage of the property where the sidewalk in constructed.
Plan Commission Minutes Page 4June 5, 2001
Chairman Borsuk questioned the proposed easement for sidewalk construction across Highway 41 at 9th
Avenue at this time, as intersections along Highway 41 were designated to be rebuilt in the near future.
Mr. Patek stated a sidewalk would be constructed on the north side of the bridge to connect to Washburn
Street, and confirmed that intersections along Highway 41 are scheduled for reconstruction in 8-10
years. Mr. Patek also noted the Gateway Committee’s concern about the cost of the fencing that would
be installed adjacent to the sidewalk. He stated they have agreed to use a plastic coated chain link fence
to minimize the cost of fencing in lieu of the bridge reconstruction that will occur in the near future.
Motion by Bloechl for approval for the acquisition of easements from 41 properties to
permit construction of pedestrian access on the east side of Koeller Street from 9th Avenue
through South Park Avenue, and on 20th Avenue from South Park west to a point just past
the Wisconsin and Southern Railroad right –of-way in order to construct a 5 foot wide
concrete sidewalk. Seconded by Blassingame. Motion carried 8-1. Nay: Smith
III.REZONING WISCONSIN STREET
Stephen Winter, petitioner/owner, requests the Plan Commission to review and approve the rezoning of
a vacant lot, Lot 1 of CSM 4204, located on the east side of Wisconsin Street, south of the former Copps
grocery store at 2551 Jackson Street, and across the street from 2435-2445 Wisconsin Street, from C-2
General Commercial District to R-2 Two Family Residence District.
Mr. Smith questioned if a C-2 zoning district allows two family dwellings. Mr. Kinney replied that a C-2
District does not allow residential uses.
Mr. Krueger stated the rezoning would result in an R-2 District surrounded by a C-2 District. Mr. Burich
used the map as displayed to show the possibilities of multi-family and R-2 zoning district changes
being discussed for the future. Discussion followed regarding the drainage, landscaping and buffers in
the area.
Motion by Smith for approval of the rezoning of Lot 1 of CSM 4204, located on the east
side of Wisconsin Street, south of the former Copps grocery store at 2551 Jackson Street,
and across the street from 2435-2445 Wisconsin Street, from C-2 General Commercial
District to R-2 Two Family Residence District. Seconded by Bloechl. Motion carried 7-2.
Nays: Gehling, and Borsuk.
IV:CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT: WISCONSIN STREET & WARREN ROAD
Stan Ramaker, Design II Architects, petitioner for Jerry Saalsaa, owner requests the Plan Commission to
review and approve a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to allow for the construction of a 5,435 square foot
multi storefront strip center on the corner of Wisconsin Street and Warren Avenue (to be renamed Pearl
Avenue when street construction is completed). The property is zoned C-3 PD Central Commercial
District with a Planned Development overlay.
Plan Commission Minutes Page 5June 5, 2001
Mrs. Bloechl questioned why a Conditional Use Permit was needed for this item. Mr. Kinney stated it
was needed as part of the Planned Development designation for the area.
Mr. Smith questioned if the site plan was showing a site for another building. Mr. Kinney stated the
developer also owns the business on the corner of Wisconsin Street and Pearl Avenue, ( Papa Johns) and
an option exists for the extension of the proposed building to attach to Papa Johns, which would require
further review by the Plan Commission and the Common Council.
Stan Ramaker, Design II Architects, stated he was present to answer any questions the Plan Commission
may have. Chairman Borsuk asked if he had any renderings of the building. Mr. Ramaker displayed
maps showing the design of the building and the elevations.
Mrs. Bloechl questioned how much space each tenant would have within the structure, and if brick
veneer would be used on the structure. Mr. Ramaker stated each tenants space would depend on their
needs, and also confirmed that the structure would be of brick veneer.
Motion by Gehling for approval of a Conditional Use Permit to allow for the construction
of a 5,435 square foot multi storefront strip center on the corner of Wisconsin Street and
Warren Avenue (to be renamed Pearl Avenue when street construction is completed) with
the following conditions:
1.The subject property be combined with the abutting property to the north;
2.Placement and construction of the proposed dumpster enclosure is subject to final
approval by staff;
3.Staff approval of a final, detailed landscaping plan, including fencing and exterior
lighting;
4.Staff approval of signage size, location and design.
Seconded by Krueger.
Chairman Borsuk, made reference to the original conception of the redevelopment area, and questioned
if the staff was pleased with the level of development taking place.
Mr. Kinney stated the development taking place reflects the level of development submitted for
approval. He continued by discussing future opportunities that will compliment the area.
Mrs. Bloechl questioned condition number 3 regarding the type of fencing included with the landscaping
and lighting. Ms. Kepplinger stated the fence would be constructed using six foot high masonry columns
with wrought iron between the columns. She noted the City is requiring the same design to be used
throughout the redevelopment area with reasonable placement combined with landscaping.
Motion carried 9-0
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Plan Commission Minutes Page 6June 5, 2001
V:FINAL PLAT/DEVELOPMENT PLAN/EASEMENTS – WESTOWNE HEIGHTS
Carow Land Surveying Co. Inc., petitioner for Midwest Real Estate Development Co. Inc., owner,
requests the Plan Commission review and approve a Final Plat known as Westowne Heights for property
generally located east of N. Westhaven Drive and north of Springmill Drive. The subject property is
part of the Westowne Annexation, which was approved by the Plan Commission on February 2, 1999
and at which time it was zoned R-2 PD Two Family Residence District with a Planned Development
Overlay.
Attorney Yakes stated that he, Mr. Mark and Mr. Halverson were present to answer any questions the
Plan Commission may have.
Attorney Yakes explained the lots in Westowne Heights would be developed in the same manner as on
Havenwood Drive, which he stated are the most sought after lots in Oshkosh at this time. He stated they
would be very nice looking units, and provide a good buffer for either the single family residence
district, the multiple dwelling district or the commercial district that abuts the plat.
Mr. Krueger questioned if the 25 foot strip of land at the south of the plat would remain wild land or be
used for yard. Attorney Yakes stated that the 25-foot strip of land will remain in the Town of Algoma to
prevent the creation of a town island. Attorney Yakes stated the land would actually be part of each lot,
to be maintained by the property owner, but not to be built upon.
Discussion followed regarding the conditions of the Preliminary Plat for easements, which lie outside
the plat. Mr. Mark stated they have been working with the Department of Public Works and have
complied with all of the easement requests.
Motion by Mr. Ruppenthal for approval of the Final Plat, Development Plan and
Easements for Westowne Heights generally located east of N. Westhaven Drive and north
of Springmill Drive with the following conditions:
1.The developer be responsible for all capital improvement costs incurred by this
development.
2.Approval of the conditional use permit/development plan for the final plat of
Westowne Plat be provided with no further review of building plans required in the
final plat so long as any proposed development complies with base standards of the
R-2 Two Family Residence District.
3.The City accepts the utility and drainage easements.
4.Additional right-of-way be dedicated to provide a radius at each block corner as
required by the Department of Public Works.
Seconded by Bloechl. Motion carried 9-0.
Plan Commission Minutes Page 7June 5, 2001
OTHER BUSINESS
I.BOOK REFERENCING OSHKOSH
Mr. Blassingame informed the Plan Commission of a new book entitled “Downtowns” Revitalizing the
Centers of Small Urban Communities, Edited by Michael A. Burayidi, a Professor at UW-Oshkosh,
which makes reference to Oshkosh.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at approximately 4:52 p.m.
(Timmerman/Bloechl) Unanimous.
Respectfully submitted,
DARRYN BURICH
Principal Planner
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