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PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
JULY 16, 2002
PRESENT: Lee Bettes, Lurton Blassingame, Jon Dell’Antonia, Steve Gehling, Jack
Heinemann, Donald Krueger, Donald Pressley, Kathleen Propp, Achim
Reschenberg, John Ruppenthal, and David Borsuk, Chairman
STAFF: Darryn Burich, Principal Planner; Susan Kepplinger, Principal Planner;
Matt Tucker, Zoning Administrator; Jackson Kinney, Director of
Community Development, and Vickie Rand, Recording Secretary
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Borsuk. Roll call was taken and a quorum
declared present.
Chairman Borsuk welcomed Kathleen Propp to the Plan Commission.
The minutes of June 18, 2002 were approved as mailed (Krueger/Reschenberg).
Unanimous.
Chairman Borsuk explained that the Plan Commission would proceed with Item III at this
time because of a delay the petitioners of Item I had encountered.
III: RIGHT-OF-WAY ACQUISITION W. PACKER AVENUE
The Department of Public Works requests the Plan Commission to review and approve
the acquisition of officially mapped land at the west end of W. Packer Avenue. The
acquired land will be used to extend the Packer Avenue right-of-way to provide for
construction of public utilities and the street.
David Langkau, 1225 Faust Avenue questioned who would be paying for the
improvements for Packer Ave. Principal Planner Susan Kepplinger stated the developer
has offered to purchase the land and deed it to the City. She stated the minimum charges
the property owners would incur would be consistent with the city street assessments.
Motion by Pressley to approve the acquisition of officially mapped land at
the west end of W. Packer Avenue. Seconded by Blassingame. Motion carried
9-0.
II: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A FOR A MIXED
COMMERCIAL/RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AT 501 N. MAIN STREET
Compass Properties, LLC, petitioner for Venture Enterprises, owner, requests the Plan
Commission to review and approve a conditional use permit (CUP) for a mixed use
commercial/residential structure at 501 N. Main Street. The subject property is zoned C-
3 DO Central Commercial District with a Downtown Overlay that allows mixed use
commercial/residential structures through CUP and further requires that residential uses
be located on upper floors only. The 5,400 square foot subject property contains a three-
story, approximately 16,000 square foot structure. The building, originally constructed in
1890, is a contributing structure in the North Main Historic District and is eligible for the
National
Register of Historic Places. Additionally, the building as recently as last year was
included on the top ten list of the State’s most “endangered” historic buildings.
Chairman Borsuk questioned if the financial information included in the Staff Report was
to be considered by the Plan Commission in their decision of granting a Conditional Use
Permit (CUP). Mr. Kinney stated the financial information was not part of the CUP
review.
Chairman Borsuk asked if there was information on the demographics of the subject area.
Ms. Kepplinger explained the census data was not available at this time for that particular
area, however, apartment rental would be consistent with the wages relating to the service
industry and other jobs in the downtown area.
Mr. Gehling asked if the rental fees would be consistent with other apartments on Main
Street. Ms. Kepplinger stated they would be in line with current market rates for the area.
Mr. Heinemann questioned if the Hair Salon building would be removed. Mr. Kinney
stated the City was in the process of acquiring that lot and the abutting Wisconsin Central
property to provide for a future public parking lot.
Chairman Borsuk questioned if the City was comfortable with the petitioner’s request for
an option to purchase the improved parking lot at any time in the future. Mr. Kinney
stated that request had been withdrawn by the petitioner.
Chairman Borsuk questioned what the cost of rehab was for a single family house. Ms.
Kepplinger stated this case was not comparable to the cost of rehabilitating a single
family dwelling because of the cost of fines the owner is facing, the amount of
deterioration of the building, and money coming from different sources than those
normally used for the rehabilitation of a single family home. Ms. Kepplinger stated under
normal circumstances the average cost of rehabilitation of a single family home was
approximately $45,000-60,000.
Andrew Habermann, 511 N. Main Street, stated he shared a wall with the subject
property, and was in favor of the rehabilitation of this building because bricks fall every
couple of months from this building. Mr. Habermann questioned how they calculated 12
parking spaces to fit in the designated parking area. Mr. Kinney stated they were in the
process of preparing a parking plan, and with organized parking in the 2 adjacent lots to
the west they should be able to possibly create 54 parking spaces and more. Mr.
Habermann questioned if they envisioned the parking lot to look like the parking lot
directly to the south. Mr. Kinney stated that was the general appearance they were
looking for, an improved parking lot with landscaping to create an improvement for the
area. Mr. Habermann questioned if there would be assigned parking spaces. Mr. Kinney
stated short term parking spaces would be available, and long term parking spaces would
be made available by the purchase of a permit as proposed. Discussion followed
regarding the parking spaces, and whether the owner or the tenants would be purchasing
the parking permits.
Mr. Blassingame stated this was a rare opportunity to change the blighted area in a
prominent part of downtown which he felt would be beneficial for the community, and
had his support.
Motion by Pressley for approval of a Conditional Use Permit for a mixed use
commercial/residential structure at 501 N. Main Street as found to be
consistent with Standards set forth in Section 30-11 (D) of the Zoning
Ordinance. Seconded by Dell’Antonia.
Chairman Borsuk stated he was in support of downtown rehabilitation, however, he
questioned how to leverage the dollars spent most effectively. He compared the number
of single family dwellings that could be rehabilitated with the amount of money spent on
this one property. He stated the downtown appears to be developing an abundance of low
income housing, and they should look at offering more scattered types of housing in the
downtown area.
Mr. Kinney stated this project differs from the normal rehabilitation done on a single
family dwelling because the financial support of $300,000 from the State Division of
Housing is specific to this activity and not rehabilitation of single family dwellings. He
also stated apartments offered for low income levels are very close to the market rates.
Ms. Kepplinger stated there are many people fresh out of high school or college who
need affordable housing. She stated there are also many employers who need people to
fill positions with lower but fair pay in the community, many that exist downtown,
therefore, there is a need for this level of housing.
Mr. Blassingame stated that was not the issue at hand, and the Plan Commission should
be looking at granting a Conditional Use Permit from a land use standpoint.
Mr. Kinney stated there will be financial framework for this building, which he feels will
strengthen the downtown area. He stated this is an extremely critical building in the
downtown area and a first rate renovation is being planned for the exterior and interior of
the building.
Motion carried 8-1. Nay: Borsuk.
I: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE A CONVENIENCE STORE
WITH GASOLINE PUMP SALES FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY
LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WITZEL AVENUE
AND SAWYER STREET (103 N. SAWYER STREET), AND A ZONE
CHANGE FROM R-1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT TO C-1
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERICAL DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY
AT 1215 FAUST AVE.
Kwik Trip Inc., petitioner is requesting two Plan Commission actions in order to
construct and operate a convenience store with gasoline pump sales for properties
generally located at the northwest corner of Witzel Avenue and N. Sawyer Street. One
request will be to rezone the property at 1215 Faust Avenue from R-1 Single Family
Residence District to C-1 Neighborhood Business District, which would then allow the
second request for a conditional use permit (CUP) to operate a convenience store with
gasoline pump sales on the overall proposal site. Gasoline pump sales are allowed only
through CUP in the C-1 Neighborhood Business District.
Mr. Burich introduced the item noting he would like to add some additional conditions.
He stated that to provide a more lateral clearance for traffic entering the site from Witzel
Avenue, a bump out be installed at the east end of the driveway with the actual design of
the bump out to be approved by the Department of Community Development, and
because of the concerns of the adjacent dentist office a solid fence be installed to include
landscaping on the west lot line adjacent to the dentist office.
Mr. Pressley questioned the distance of ingress and egress from the corner of Sawyer
Street and Witzel Avenue.
Mr. Burich stated the driveway at the intersection of Witzel Avenue and Sawyer Street
was 70 feet from the intersection, the south end of the driveway on N. Sawyer Street was
120 feet from the intersection, and the driveway on Faust Avenue was 105 feet from N.
Sawyer Street.
Mr. Gehling questioned how rezoning the property at 1215 Faust Avenue would affect
the setbacks. Mr. Burich explained the parking lot would comply with zoning regulations
of 19’3” from the adjacent residential property line, he stated a solid wood fence with
landscaping is also recommended.
David Langkau, 1225 Faust Avenue, representing himself, and his sister Julie Schumde,
her husband David Schmude, and their daughter Stacy. He stated it appears the site is too
small for the proposal since so many variances are being requested to be able for this
proposal to work. He stated customers would have to cross two lanes of traffic to travel
either to the east or to the north. He stated the traffic problems are real, and his niece
Stacy has the scars to prove it. He stated at times traffic may not be too bad, however,
anytime after school starts in September, especially around 2:30 in the afternoon the
traffic is heavy.
Mr. Langkau stated the Witzel Avenue and Knapp Street intersection is not the only
heavy traffic area, or the only one that will be affected, but also Witzel Avenue and Eagle
Street, Taft Avenue and Sawyer Street, and Sawyer Street and 5th Avenue. He stated he
didn’t feel the area could handle an increase in traffic and suggested the City find a way
to handle the current traffic problems before adding to it.
Matt Ebersberger, 1221 Faust Avenue, submitted a petition opposing the rezoning of
1215 Faust Avenue, along with additional information on the subject properties (on file in
the Department of Community Development). Mr. Ebersberger stated he has lived in this
neighborhood all his life, and reviewed the size of the lots which he figured couldn’t add
up to 59’ being available from the lot at 1215 Faust Avenue. He also stated gas tanks are
located 30’ from the house at 1215 Faust Avenue where the sump pump had been
drawing water from the gas tank since 1974. He also noted the speed limit in the area was
changed to 15 m.p.h. as of April 3, 2002, and has not been enforced. He also questioned
if it was legal for a convenience store to sell alcohol across the street from a high school.
Chairman Borsuk stated the sale of alcohol was not under the jurisdiction of the Plan
Commission.
Mr. Ebersberger also stated the bedrooms in his home were on the east side of the house,
near the dumpsters, which he did not appreciate, he was also concerned about the mature
trees being taken off the property, and the litter that may result from this development.
Mike Goyke, 1231 Faust Avenue, stated he was concerned about the increase of traffic in
the area. He also stated there would be three gas stations within three miles of each other,
and questioned if they could all survive economically. Chairman Borsuk stated the
economics of the proposal was not an issue for the Plan Commission whose duties are to
review the site for the appropriate land use.
Hans Zietlow, Director of Real Estate for Kwik Trip Inc., stated that the subject site was
and currently is a gas station service operation. He stated contamination has been found
on the property and one lot has received closure from the Department of Natural
Resources, however, they would continue to study the soil and remove the contamination
from the other lots as well.
Mr. Zietlow stated Kwik Trip is looking at this site for a convenience store/gas station.
He stated the required setbacks and the parking requirements are forcing them to look at
rezoning 1215 Faust Avenue. He stated the mature trees would remain on the property.
He also stated the store would look similar to the Appleton store with a brick exterior of
red and tan colors. He stated Kwik trip was a family owned operation. He explained
small gas stations will quickly become a thing of the past because of the economics
involved in the gasoline business, however, Kwik Trip is highly involved in the grocery
business, which is needed in order for a gasoline business to survive, and be a benefit to
the community. He agreed the site was small with only one acre to offer, however, he felt
it would be an improvement over what currently existed on the property.
Mr. Gehling questioned how the lighting could be contained to the site. Mr. Zietlow
explained the lighting requirements of the Zoning Ordinance, and noted how the lighting
they have proposed would be in compliance. Mr. Tucker, Zoning Administrator, noted
that the light from any parcel is not allowed to negatively affect adjacent parcels. Mr.
Kinney stated a lighting plan is required for this proposal.
Mr. Bettes questioned what the view would be of the property owner at 1216 Faust
Avenue. Mr. Burich used the map as displayed to show where the fencing would be
located and where the recommended landscaping would be placed, noting that the mature
trees in area would remain.
Mrs. Propp asked Mr. Burich to clarify the parking spaces that would be created on the
residential lot proposed for rezoning, and the parking spaces that would need to be
relocated. Mr. Burich used the map as displayed to show parking spaces that are proposed
to be relocated to the area along the west lot line abutting the dentist office,
approximately 6 spaces, noting that 1215 Faust Avenue would also consist of parking
spaces and the trash enclosure area.
Mrs. Propp also questioned what options Kwik trip would have if the rezoning would be
denied.
Mr. Zietlow stated Kwik Trip wouldn’t be able to develop the site without the rezoning.
He stated they would need the parcel at 1215 Faust Avenue to meet the parking and
setback requirements. He stated the existing operation would most likely remain
because the size of the site limits investment opportunities.
Mr. Reschenberg questioned if the points of ingress and egress on Sawyer Street were
properly located. Mr. Burich stated the Director from the Director of Transportation had
reviewed the proposed site plan and did not find any conflicts with regard to the location
of the driveways.
Discussion followed regarding the difficulty customers may have trying to make a left
turn, and if the Plan Commission had the authority to add a condition relating to the
direction traffic should take. Mr. Pressley stated he was most concerned with cars waiting
on Faust Avenue to turn left on Sawyer Street. He stated they would most likely take a
left hand turn creating more traffic in the residential neighborhoods. He suggested a
“Right Turn Only” sign be placed at the Faust Avenue driveway location.
Chairman Borsuk questioned if Kwik Trip had considered the traffic flow in this area.
Mr. Zietlow stated they had used an independent traffic engineering to study the area. He
discussed the traffic pattern of cars coming into the site off of Witzel Avenue and exiting
to the right on Sawyer Street proceeding to the traffic light at the intersection of Witzel
and Sawyer Street.
Bill Hentz, 1312 Faust Avenue, stated he has lived in this neighborhood for 35 years and
has definitely seen an increase in the traffic flow. He used the map as displayed to show
the difficulty of turning left from Faust Avenue. He stated at the current time he goes
over to Witzel Avenue and uses the light to make a left hand turn, and is convinced the
traffic from this development will increase in the residential areas. He stated the plan is
not acceptable, and that should be evident with the signature of 11 home owners on the
petition previously submitted.
Mr. Hentz questioned if Faust Avenue would be able to handle the weight of delivery
trucks, and semi’s. He stated it is currently a quiet neighborhood and is concerned that
this 24 hour, 7 day a week business would increase the potential for crime, traffic, litter
and noise in the neighborhood at all hours, and there are currently 8 children under the
age of 18 in the neighborhood. He also stated a convenience store/gas station is not
needed in this neighborhood with three other gas stations/convenience stores located in
such close proximity. He stated one was also locally owned, and he would rather support
the community. He stated this development would only have a positive effect on the
petitioners and owners of the property. He suggested if the Plan Commission is in favor
of rezoning this parcel, perhaps they could rezone it with a planned development overlay
to have more control over any other development that may want to locate there.
Carla Goyke, 1231 Faust Avenue, stated her family decided to purchase their home in
this neighborhood a year ago because they thought it would be a quiet neighborhood in
which to live. She stated she is concerned about the traffic and the safety of her children.
She also stated she currently has to wait for a minimum of 10 minutes to make a left hand
turn at the corner of Faust Avenue and Sawyer Street at 7 a.m. as well as when she is
returning to work after she is home for lunch.
Amy Gauger, 1203 Witzel Avenue, questioned why this development has been allowed
so many variances when they were not even allowed to put up a privacy fence. Mrs.
Gauger stated their bedrooms would be facing the development. She also noted that the
Auto Authority was a quiet, small business that closed at night. She stated allowing Kwik
Trip to develop on this property would not be beneficial for this neighborhood, and
questioned why these variances should be allowed.
Larry Gauger, 1203 Witzel Avenue stated he has the same concerns as his wife.
Mr. Burich stated the variances that are required for this development to move forward
have not been granted yet, and the developers need to appear before the Board of Appeals
with their request. Mr. Burich further discussed the variances needed and the difference a
C-1 zoning classification would make.
Mr. Hentz stated he is still concerned about the increased traffic on Faust Avenue and
throughout the residential neighborhood by customers who will travel to where they are
able to use the controlled stop and go lights, and not have to wait on Faust Avenue to get
back into traffic.
Motion by Pressley to add a condition to place a “NO LEFT TURN” sign at
the ingress/egress point on Faust Avenue. Seconded by Blassingame.
Discussion followed regarding the effect such a sign would have on the neighborhood,
the ability of Kwik Trip to enforce such signage, and if the Plan Commission had the
authority to add such a condition.
Mr. Blassingame stated even though Kwik Trip may be a quality operation, he can see a
major problem with the traffic in the area, along with the fact that this business will be
open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. He stated he doesn’t feel it is in the best interest of
the community, therefore, it will not have his support.
Mr. Bettes stated he had initially been opposed to this proposal because of the negative
impact he thought it would place on the neighborhood, however, he stated it appears that
Kwik Trip is proposing steps to mitigate any negative impact through landscaping and
fencing. He also stated Kwik Trip appears to maintain their properties very well, and he
feels this proposal will be in the best interest of the community, therefore, it has his
support.
Motion denied 2-7. Nays: Bettes, Blassingame, Dell’Antonia, Gehling,
Krueger, Ruppenthal, and Borsuk.
Motion by Blassingame to rezone the property at 1215 Faust Avenue from R-
1 Single Family Residence District to C-1 Neighborhood Business District,
and grant a Conditional Use Permit to operate a convenience store with
gasoline pump sales on the overall proposal site to be found consistent with
the standards set forth in Section 30-11 (D) of the Zoning Ordinance with the
amended conditions as follows:
1.The three separate tax parcels be combined to create one tax parcel.
2.Dumpster enclosure to be constructed with masonry materials to match
materials used for the façade of the principal structure on site. The front
of the enclosure to be screened with a 6 foot high wood fence with
landscaping.
3.The ground sign along Sawyer Street be relocated to an Ordinance
compliant location. The ground sign along Witzel be moved to an
Ordinance compliant location or a setback variance be obtained.
4.Ordinance compliant parking spaces to be added along the west property
line west of the gas canopy.
5.Submission and approval of a landscape plan prior to issuance of a
building permit. Landscape plan shall give special consideration to the
provision of providing an opaque landscape border at the time of
planting in the transitional yard area along the Faust Avenue west
property line. Landscape plan to be approved of by the Department of
Community Development.
6. On site lighting be designed and placed so as not to spill-over into the
adjacent residential area.
7. Architectural enhancements and treatments be added to the north and
east building elevations and roof lines with modifications to be approved
by the Department of Community Development.
8.East end of the Witzel Avenue ingress/egress be designed with a “bump-
out” feature to be approved by the Department of Community
Development.
9. A solid fence be installed to include landscaping on the west lot line
adjacent to the dentist office.
Seconded by Gehling. Motion carried 6-3. Nays: Blassingame, Pressley, and
Reschenberg.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 5:30
p.m.(Krueger/Blassingame). Unanimous.
Respectfully submitted,
DARRYN L. BURICH
Principal Planner
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