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ADVISORY PARK BOARD MINUTES SEPTEMBER 26, 2005 Present: Bill Akan, Bill Gogolewski, Kay Hansen, Jim Michelson, Larry Pasquini, Terry Wohler Excused: Bryan Bain, Ted Bowen, Jim Schwochert
Staff: Thomas Stephany, Director of Parks; Vince Maas, Parks Operations Manager; Bill Sturm, Landscape Operations Manager/City Forester; Trish Wendorf, Recording Secretary Chairman Michelson
called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M. A quorum was determined to be present. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion by Gogolewski for approval of the September 12, 2005 minutes, as distributed.
Seconded by Wohler. Motion carried 6-0. PARK BUSINESS 1) Approve Playground Projects -Abbey, Rochlin and West Algoma Parks Mr. Akan stated with respect to the Miracle Recreation playground
equipment he was leery of the hardware, as the hex screws were susceptible to vandalism. Mr. Wohler stated he leaned more towards Landscape Structures, as he was impressed with their
presentation. He stated he was not an expert on what children like as far as playground playground equipment is concerned. He concurred with Mr. Akan’s concern as to Miracle Recreation’s
use of hex screws. Ms. Hansen stated the Parks crew is familiar with the construction of Landscape Structures’ equipment and said equipment has held up well over the years. Mr. Gogolewski
inquired if quotes were obtained and how did Burke and Landscape Structures compare? He concurred with Misters Akan and Wohler with respect to Miracle Recreation’s use of hex screws.
Mr. Stephany explained that staff gave the playground companies a budget and the companies worked with that budget. Mr. Pasquini stated if the Board is looking for consistency, then
Landscape Structures would be the choice to make as their equipment is familiar and well-liked. If the Board wanted variety, then he would choose Miller Burke as his second choice as
he likes the slide and the tree house. He was not impressed with the hardware of Miracle Recreation Equipment Company. He stated it would be nice to have a variety of equipment in the
parks. Mr. Stephany stated Landscape Structures picked a smaller slide for smaller kids. If the Board wanted a higher slide, then Landscape could switch the slides. Chairman Michelson
stated the City has had a good track record with Landscape Structures and they have innovative ideas, high quality equipment, and the Parks crew are efficient in installing the equipment.
Therefore, he would support Landscape Structures’ playground equipment for the three parks. Mr. Akan stated Landscape’s equipment is being used a lot within the parks system and he is
hopeful that the company does not become complacent.
ADVISORY PARK BOARD MINUTES PAGE TWO SEPTEMER 26, 2005 Mr. Gogolewski inquired if Burke offered more pieces than Landscape? Mr. Stephany explained the Board needs to look more at the
quality, play value, and safety of the steel of each company, than comparing number of play pieces. Mr. Maas stated he broke down the individual components versus the big structure planned
for Rochlin Park; said copy of Playground Evaluation on file at the Parks Department and made a part of these minutes. He expressed concern with the warranty of Miracle Recreation Equipment
only being one year versus three years on moving parts and 15 years on structures. He also expressed concern with the size of Miracle’s posts/pipes of the swingsets, and that the slide
handrails only have one on the top versus Landscape’s having an additional midrail. Mr. Maas also stated that Burke did not offer a standup seesaw. Mr. Stephany stated Burke does not
have a standup seesaw. With respect to Landscape Structures, some of their pieces are higher higher in price, but some of those parts the Parks Department already has in stock and they
are interchangeable. Parks staff has knowledge of putting in those (Landscape Structures) types of pieces versus the other companies equipment. He stated Landscape hit the budget numbers
and the other two companies came in under the budget numbers. If the Parks crew installed a different type of playground equipment than they are already familiar with, then it might
take more time, and therefore, could cost more in labor/wages, as well as the cost for the Parks crew to purchase installation equipment (tools). All of the companies presented different
layouts and styles of playgrounds. He pointed out that Landscape has a lot of different and unique activities, i.e., the star shaped climber. Mr. Gogolewski inquired if Landscape’s wall
climber could be switched for some other activity related piece of equipment as their plan had too many climbing items. Motion by Gogolewski to approve the purchase of playground equipment
equipment from Gerber Leisure Products (representing Landscape Structures) for the playgrounds at Abbey, Rochlin and West Algoma Parks based on quality of equipment and past experience
of installation. Seconded by Wohler. Motion carried 6-0. Mr. Wohler suggested Landscape take out the climbing wall and put in another set of swings. Mr. Pasquini suggested a two seat
teeter-totter. Mr. Wohler suggested adding two more swings and a teeter-totter and removing the brown climbing wall. Mr. Gogolewski suggested putting a roof over the equipment for shade
for the children. Motion by Hansen to approve the purchase of playground equipment from Gerber Leisure Products (representing Landscape Structures) for the playgrounds at Abbey, Rochlin
and West Algoma Parks based on quality of equipment and past experience of installation contingent upon the Parks staff using their discretion with respect to Choice #2 with revisions
of adding a two base swingset and a teeter-totter and removing the brown climbing wall. Seconded by Pasquini. Motion carried 6-0. 2) 2006 CIP Mr. Stephany reiterated the skatepark renovation
proposal as stated in his memo to the Board dated September 23, 2005 (said memo on file at the City Parks office and made a part of these minutes). He stated that Larry Brown of CR Meyer
Company donated time for the engineering designs. The skateboarders did a conceptual drawing (said drawing on file at the City Parks office and made a part of these minutes) and held
a meeting with other skaters and everyone is excited about possible renovations. He stated the skateboarders believe they can raise the money required for this project through grants
and possibly donated monies from the Oshkosh Area Community Foundation. The City would have the basic responsibility for the flooring and engineering work would need to be done in order
to bid the project out. Mr. Stephany stated he is excited with the improvements being planned for Red Arrow Park. Mr. Pasquini commented that Red Arrow Park will become more lively than
ever with all the improvements and opening of the Pollock Aquatic Center.
ADVISORY PARK BOARD MINUTES PAGE THREE SEPTEMER 26, 2005 Mr. Stephany reiterated his comments as stated in his memo to the Board dated September 23, 2005 (said memo on file at the City
Parks office and made a part of these minutes) relative to Rainbow Park. He suggested that with the addition of a new 1,200 sq. ft shelter, the old shelter could be used in conjunction
with the boaters. Discussion ensued as to various other projects, i.e. four new playgrounds, addition of Reetz diamond fencing, re-design of the South Park pond areas and water run-off
areas. Mr. Stephany stated the Menominee Park main restroom building may have to be cosmetically fixed. Mr. Wohler inquired as to what shape the current park shelters are in? Mr. Maas
stated that the Red Arrow shelter’s concrete floor has settled and needs to be fixed. The large shelter at South Park has a sagging roof and the stone walls at the north end are moving
which makes it impossible to open the windows. Mr. Wohler stated the parks crew should fix what amenities are in the park system now before taking on any more new projects. Mr. Stephany
stated that Mr. Maas is in the process of working on reports for cost estimates for park repairs – some maintenance items would not fit into the description for Capital Improvement Projects.
Motion by Akan to approve the CIP projects submitted by Mr. Stephany, to-wit: Red Arrow Skatepark renovations, Red Arrow little league baseball diamonds 1 and 3 renovations, Rainbow
Park road repair, and a new shelter at Rainbow Park for 2006; and for 2007 – repairs to South Park large shelter, roof repairs (or new roof) to the Menominee Park beach house, and repairs
to the Techmiller Park tennis courts. Seconded by Wohler. Motion carried 6-0. Mr. Sturm reiterated his report (said report on file at the City Parks office and made a part of these minutes)
relative to the Riverside Cemetery Chapel Roof. He stated the main concern is the masonry tuck pointing, especially in two areas that recently broke out and need immediate attention.
Mr. Sturm stated he has a high degree of comfort with the specialists that did the quotes, as they are knowledgeable as to historical preservation. Discussion ensued as to the tuck pointing
issue and masonry work to the cemetery roof. Motion by Gogolewski to approve the CIP projects submitted by Mr. Sturm in the following order: 1) masonry repairs for the top two priority
areas as previously described; 2) tile the entire roof; 3) spot repair the problem areas in the flat roof; 4) replacement of galvanized metal gutters on both sides of the building; 5)
replacement of the car port ceiling to be held in abeyance. Seconded by Wohler. Motion carried 6-0. 3) Change October Meeting Date Mr. Stephany stated he would not be available for the
regularly scheduled date of October 10 and requested the next monthly meeting be scheduled for October 17, 2005. Motion by Wohler to approve rescheduling the October monthly meeting
to the 17th. Seconded by Gogolewski. Motion carried 6-0. CITIZEN STATEMENTS There were no citizen statements. ADJOURNMENT There being no other business, Motion by Wohler to adjourn.
Seconded by Hansen. Motion carried 6-0. The meeting adjourned at 8:02 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Trish Wendorf, Recording Secretary