HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutesCITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
MINUTES
February 10, 2010
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chairperson Todd Clark, Dennis Arnold, Joe Blechl, Shirley
Mattox and Arlene Schmuhl.
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Tina Haffeman, Burk Tower
STAFF: David Buck
OTHERS PRESENT: Mark Ferguson
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Clark called the meeting to order and a quorum was declared present. There was an
introduction of Commission members and others present. Chairperson Clark recommended that
Item 10: Agenda Items for Next Meeting /Commissioner Statements be moved to the next point
of discussion. Moved by Mr. Arnold and seconded by Ms. Mattox. Motion passed unanimously
(5 -0).
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Dennis Arnold moved approval of the January 2010 Minutes as presented. Arlene Schmuhl
seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously (5 -0).
NEXT MEETING /COMMISSIONER STATEMENTS
Chairperson Clark asked if there were any general comments of the commission and seeing that
there were none asked the member of the public present to comment on his attendance this
evening.
Mr. Mark Ferguson introduced himself as the owner of the Historic Buckstaff Observatory
property. He stated he has owned the property for approximately 25 years and is at the point
where he can no longer afford to maintain it. He gave a brief history of the property and the
observatory and hoped that the Landmarks Commission could discuss the possibility of help with
preservation at an upcoming meeting. Ms. Mattox asked if he had spoken with anyone at the
Historical Society and Mr. Ferguson stated he had not recently. Ms. Schmuhl discussed the
displays and improvements within the buildings and Chairperson Clark stated that the
Commission would get it on a future agenda. Mr. Ferguson said he has spoken with the
Community Foundation in regard to fundraising and thought this body was the next logical
avenue to address the property.
GRAND OPERA HOUSE UPDATE
Chairperson Clark stated that the Decorative Elements Committee spoke with paint and
restoration specialists who told them that they are taking 1883 elements and paint back which
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didn't get done in 1983 due to budget constraints. He anticipates that the work should be
completed at the end of the summer or early fall. Ms. Schmuhl stated that she believed the
(re)opening is planned for the end of October.
PAINE ART AND GARDEN CENTER PLAN REVIEW
Mr. Buck provided an update of Plan Commission and Council actions regarding the Paine Art
and Garden Center request for changes to the site. Mr. Arnold stated that he hoped the Paine
could salvage the entire home or at least the main historic element of the home they have
purchased on Elmwood Ave. Mr. Clark agreed that it would be an ideal infill home but also felt
that at least significant portions of the structure could be salvaged. Ms. Mattox felt they should
recycle and reuse anything they could.
COMMISSION STATUS
Mr. Buck asked if the Commission wanted to stay with the 6 member — 2 alternate commissioner
make -up of the Landmarks Commission? The consensus was to keep the make -up as is even
though it allowed for an even voting situation that could potentially create a 3 -3 voting scenario.
Mr. Buck asked how the commission wanted to have a joint meeting with the ad -hoc Landmarks
group, which includes the Paine and the Museum. Chairperson Clark stated that he would like to
have 1 or 2 joint meetings for a plethora of reasons. Mr. Buck asked about timing and Ms.
Mattox added that the timing should fit the convenience of the ad -hoc members. Mr. Arnold
asked that Winnebago County Historical Society be added as an ad -hoc member. Ms. Schmuhl
stated that they would be good as they should be more than just a Morgan House Historic
Society and would be a good resource for general historic preservation.
REPORTS OF WORKING GROUPS
Chairperson Clark stated that the Riverside Cemetery Subcommittee has not met for quite some
time. Ms. Mattox and Ms. Schmuhl informed the group that the requested Raymaker software
purchase had been approved by the City Council and approximately $44,000 was allocated for
the cemetery.
Chairperson Clark mentioned that the Local Landmarks Subcommittee has the goal of
landmarking 1 -3 William Water structures. Mr. Arnold stated that he is the only remaining
member of that subcommittee. He stated that when it left off, the Pansky property at 324 Fulton
Street had agreed to landmarking and also that 815 Ceape had showed interest but then was
unsure. Chairperson Clark said that the Brooklyn Fire Station on 5 th Avenue was also
considered. Ms. Schmuhl stated that the landmarking of structures is good for marketing
purposes as well as recognizing a historic or significant property. Chairperson Clark added that
the commission should brainstorm and set the website to show landmark incentives.
Ms. Mattox discussed the issue of historic homes being demolished and recalled discussion with
staff regarding receiving "after the fact" information on demolition of historic property. She
commented that she would like to receive information when a demolition permit goes to
Inspection Services that a note is sent to staff to check it out. Chairperson Clark was previously
told that staff time is too tight and the process had some procedural issues. Mr. Buck stated he
would speak to the Director of Planning to try to coordinate something with the Temporary
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Director of Inspection Services. Ms. Mattox stated that a warning needs to be given when a
property on the historic surveys are impacted.
2010 GOAL SETTING
Chairperson Clark addressed goal setting for 2010 and mentioned that the commission may wish
to scale back or simplify the number of goals to achieve. Mr. Buck agreed that from a staff
perspective it is better to have 3 -4 good goals to focus on and accomplish rather than working on
too many and not completing a majority of them. Ms. Mattox agreed. Chairperson Clark stated
he wanted to focus on website development and education as a link to the city as well as the
landmarking of structures.
Ms Schmuhl excused herself from the meeting at 5:10 pm.
Discussion continued regarding the use of historic building codes and how that fit in with the
Certified Local Government Status of the City of Oshkosh. Mr. Buck stated he would look into
it and report back when he found information pertaining to it.
ADJOURNMENT
Other items on the agenda were not discussed due to time constraints. Ms. Mattox moved
approval of adjournment of the meeting. Mr. Arnold seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously (4 -0)
Meeting adjourned at 5:42 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
David Buck
Principal Planner
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