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PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
NOVEMBER 7, 2000
PRESENT: Lurton Blassingame, Donald Pressley, John Ruppenthal, James Smith, and Donald
Krueger, Vice Chairman
EXCUSED: Lee Bettes, Melanie Bloechl, David Borsuk, Steven Gehling, and Achim Reschenberg
STAFF: Jackson Kinney, Director of Community Development, John Bluemke, Principal Planner
and Vickie Rand, Recording Secretary
The meeting was called to order by Vice Chairman Krueger. Roll call was taken and a quorum declared
present.
The minutes of the October 17, 2000 Plan Commission meeting were approved as mailed.
Blassingame/Ruppenthal. Unanimous.
I: CONSENT AGENDA
A. Privilege in Street: 323 Ohio Street
Fischer Environmental Inc., petitioner for Lon Nigl, owner, requests the Plan Commission to review and
approve a Privilege in Street to allow for the installation of a monitoring well in a City right-of-way.
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The monitoring well will be located in 4 Avenue near the intersection of 4 Avenue and Ohio Street
and is required for an ongoing environmental investigation of the site at 323 Ohio Street.
B: Extraterritorial Land Division: Northwest Corner of Brook Lane and Omro Road
Reinhard Roehlig, petitioner for Jack Steinhilber owner, requests the Plan Commission to review and
approve an extraterritorial land division for property generally located at the northwest corner of the
intersection of Brooks Lane and Omro Road in the Town of Algoma. Per the Winnebago County
Zoning map the property is zoned B-2 Community Business District and the property is vacant.
C: Extraterritorial Land Division 5160 Channel View Drive
Martenson & Eisele Inc., petitioner for Don Mortensen owner, requests the Plan Commission to review
and approve an extraterritorial land division for property generally located at 5160 Island View Drive
in the Town of Oshkosh. It is zoned R-1 Rural Residential and is vacant.
There was no discussion on the Consent Agenda.
Motion by Pressley for approval of the Consent Agenda with the conditions as listed below
for Item A.
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1)The monitoring well be installed in a manner that is approved by the Department of
Public Works so that it is flush with the roadway.
2) The monitoring well be properly abandoned and removed in accordance with City
standards and under the direction of the Department of Public Works.
3) That any problem which may arise as a result of the boring or the placement of the
monitoring well be the responsibility of the petitioner to correct in coordination
with the Department of Public Works.
4) That all appropriate permits be obtained prior to the start of the borings and the
construction/placement of the monitoring well.
5)That the monitoring well be modified or removed immediately upon the request of
the City.
6) The petitioner/owner secures and submits to the City Clerk a separate insurance
policy which names the City as an additional insured with a minimum coverage of
$200,000 per person and $500,000 in general aggregate.
7) It is the responsibility of the petitioner/owner to file in a timely manner a new
insurance certificate with the City Clerk upon expiration of an existing certificate.
Failure to do so will result in the revocation of the privilege in the street upon ten
(10) days notice.
8) The petitioner/owner execute a hold harmless agreement with the City.
Seconded by Ruppenthal. Motion carried 5-0.
II: BOSCHWITZ FARM ANNEXATION
Midwest Real Estate Co. Inc., by William P. Mark, owners and petitioners, request the Plan Commission
review and approve the Boschwitz Farm Annexation generally located north of Witzel Avenue between
N. Westhaven Drive and Oakwood Road. Temporary and permanent zoning of R-3 Multiple Dwelling
District has been requested. The general area surrounding the proposed annexation is characterized by
residential land uses. The annexation totals 64.65+ acres of vacant land.
Susan Schultz, 22 Maryden Road, pointed out her property on the map as displayed, along with 2 other
property owners in the area who she was speaking for, who are either divorced or widowed and
concerned about protecting their investments. She stated they didn’t want curb and gutter, they didn’t
want the woods in the area to be destroyed or the elevation raised in the area, which could result in
flooding out their property. She stated this is the only investment they have and they have fought
against other commercial business wishing to come into the area and will fight against multiple dwelling
units being built in the area giving them only garage doors to look at.
Jack Mark, Midwest Development Company, pointed out the property on the maps as displayed that he
has developed over the past 10 years in the area, and it’s location to the new hospital, medical center,
and commercial development. He pointed out the location of the proposed annexation and the adjacent
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property. He stated this development would abut the Havenwood Apartment project and pointed out
where the different types of housing would be developed. Mr. Mark stated the main points of ingress
and egress would be off of Witzel Avenue and Oakwood Road and Maryden Road, that Ms. Schultz is
concerned about would be a minor point of ingress and egress. He stated he would attempt to retain as
much of the wooded area as possible.
Mr. Mark continued by reviewing the number of apartments, condominiums, and single family housing
he has already constructed in the area, and his proposal for further development. He talked about the
zoning requirements of an R-3 zoning district and how the development would have 50 percent less
density that what is allowed. He stated this project would occur over a 4-5 year period and that he
wanted to start construction as soon as possible.
Mr. Smith questioned why Mr. Mark was proposing two story vs. one story apartments and if the
housing was age restricted. Mr. Mark stated two story apartments were proposed to offer a variety of
housing, and he stated the apartments would be age restricted.
Discussion followed regarding the layout of the development in regard to the apartments, garages and
parking areas.
Susan Schultz asked Mr. Mark if the access point near her property was needed since he stated it would
be a minor point of ingress and egress. Mr. Mark stated the access would still be needed.
Ms. Schultz asked about the lake proposed for the senior housing apartment development, and what
would happen to the water in the area. Mr. Bluemke stated the lake was basically a retention pond to
retain the water on site. Mr. Bluemke explained that the ordinance requires a development to not have
any more water running off of the site as it did before development. Ms. Schultz asked who would pay
for the curb and gutter. Mr. Bluemke stated the City could not assess the township residents for curb and
gutter. Discussion followed regarding road maintenance issues.
Gary Allen, 60 N. Oakwood Road, stated he loved senior citizens, however his living room window
would face the 2 story proposed apartment building. He stated there are already 583 units in the area and
asked how far it was going to go.
Mr. Pressley stated the development along Westhaven Drive is an asset to the community and there is a
market for this type of housing and he encouraged the development.
Mr. Ruppenthal stated the density is reduced from what is could be and it appeared to be quality
housing. He also stated there is a need for senior housing in the area, it should reduce traffic and
compliment the neighborhood.
Mr. Blassingame addressed Mr. Allen’s comments by stating there is a need for this type of housing in
the community and there was no way of getting around it.
Motion by Mr. Ruppenthal for approval of the Boschwitz Farm Annexation with
temporary and permanent zoning of R-3 Multiple Dwelling District. Seconded by
Blassingame. Motion carried 5-0.
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III: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 500 E. COUNTY ROAD Y
Winnebago County, petitioner and owner, requests the Plan Commission review and approve a
Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to allow for motor sports events at the Winnebago County Sunnyview
Exposition Center. The types of vehicles anticipated to participate in the motor sports events include
stock cars, motor cycles, trucks, ATV’s, snowmobiles, and modified tractors. This request represents an
expansion of the current CUP, because motor vehicles are defined as automobiles and the request is to
allow for a variety of motor sport events. The site is zoned M-3 General Industrial District.
Joe Noll, 2867 Oakridge Road, Neenah, Wisconsin, representing Sunnyview Christian Church,
questioned if this would allow Sunday morning races. Mr. Bluemke stated there is nothing in the current
conditional use permit that would not prevent races at this time. Mr. Ruppenthal asked if races had
interfered with any services in the past. Mr. Noll stated they haven’t thus far.
Mr. Noll also suggested they look into the dust control in the area. Mr. Kinney asked whether they had
ever called the City to complain about the dust. Mr. Noll stated they hadn’t and it came to light at a
meeting held after they had received a notice for today’s meeting. Mr. Kinney stated they should contact
the office if they had problems with dust control in the future.
Mr. Ruppenthal questioned if this would continue without a limit on its term. Mr. Bluemke stated there
is already a permanent conditional use permit for motor vehicle racing, and this permit would be
extended to allow motor sports for a variety of motorized machines.
Mr. Smith asked if a noise study had been done. Mr. Bluemke stated a noise study has not recently been
done, and no complaints were received regarding noise. Mr. Pressley stated he believes a study had been
done approximately 2 years ago to measure the noise, which resulted in a berm being installed. Mr.
Kinney stated he believes they found more noise from the highway than from the racetrack in that study,
and noted they need to comply with the City of Oshkosh’s noise ordinance Mr. Ruppenthal stated the
only people the noise would only have an impact on were those who lived sound of Sunnyview. Mr.
Bluemke stated he had checked with the Health Department and they haven’t received any complaints
on the noise.
Motion by Ruppenthal for approval of a Conditional Use Permit to allow for motor sports
events racing at the Winnebago County Sunnyview Exposition Center be found consistent
with Standards set forth in Section 30-11 (D) of the Zoning Ordinance, and the request be
approved subject to the following conditions:
1.No motor sport event shall be held after 10:30 PM.
2.Appropriate measures are taken to control dust before and after events.
3.The sponsors of each event provide, at their expense, security personnel as
recommended by the City of Oshkosh Chief of Police.
4.The sponsors of each event provide, at their expense, any other additional emergency
services necessary to operate a safe event for participants and spectators.
5.All motorized machines or vehicles participating in any event shall be equipped with
appropriate mufflers to suppress sound to meet City of Oshkosh Noise Ordinance
limitations.
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Seconded by Smith. Motion carried 4-1. Nay: Blassingame.
OTHER BUSINESS
I. SUBDIVISION REVIEW - QUAIL RUN FARM AND HUNTERS RIDGE
The developers of the Quail Run Farm and Hunters Ridge Subdivisions, as well as the property owners
of the land west of Hunters Ridge want the Plan Commission’s perspective on the location of future
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roads in the area north of W. 9 Avenue and west of Quail Run Drive. It should be noted there are also
drainage issues in this area that will have to be resolved. The following report is provided to establish a
context for these discussions.
Mr. Kinney introduced the item stating the developers are looking for direction for the development of
these plats now that land has been purchased to the east of Hunters Ridge. He also discussed the trail
system from the Concept Plan and Layout, which the Town of Algoma has retained Martinson and
Eisele to design.
Peter Jungbacker, Developer of Quail Run Farm stated the First Addition to Quail Run Farm has been
submitted and approved. He stated it was designed to appeal to a particular segment of the market. He
passed around pictures of homes in the area, which showed the special landscaping, and streetscaping in
the area, and noted the architectural standards required in the subdivision.
Joe Bauer, 144 N. Sawyer Street, representing Nicolet Investments, stated their main concern was with
the easements needed for storm sewer drainage, and the layout of the roads.
Discussion followed regarding the layout of the roads in the Hunters Ridge Development and the
easements necessary for the drainage system to cross Quail Run from Hunters Ridge and follow the
right-of-way. Dave Patek, Director of Engineering, stated he would prefer to see the roads loop around
rather than cul de sacs designed for ease of maintenance.
Mr. Smith questioned in what phase the water retention plan would begin. Mr. Jungbacker stated the
drainage plan and easements would have to be worked out in the next phase before other phases would
be able to be developed.
A consensus was reached by the Plan Commission for the developers to go ahead with plans for the
subdivisions with the understanding that the street system in Hunters Ridge be redesigned and
allowances be made for easements in both subdivisions to allow for the storm water drainage system.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
JOHN C. BLUEMKE
Principal Planner
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