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PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
APRIL 4, 2000
PRESENT: Lee Bettes, Lurton Blassingame, Don Krueger, Achim Reschenberg, Jim Smith, and
David Borsuk, Chairman Pro Temp
EXCUSED: Melanie Bloechl, Steve Gehling, Donald Pressley, Scott Saunders and John Ruppenthal
STAFF: Jackson Kinney, Director of Community Development; John Bluemke, Principal Planner;
and Vickie Rand, Recording Secretary
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Pro Temp Borsuk. Roll call was taken and a quorum
declared present.
The minutes of March 21, 2000 were approved as mailed (Krueger/Blassingame) unanimous.
I: CONSENT AGENDA
A: Utility and Sidewalk Easements
The Department of Public Works, petitioner, requests the Plan Commission review and approve utility
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easements and a sidewalk easement along S. Oakwood Road between 9 Avenue and Witzel Avenue.
The area is characterized by residential land uses and the new Mercy Medical Center.
There was no discussion on the Consent Agenda.
Motion by Blassingame for approval of the Consent Agenda as proposed. Seconded by
Krueger. Motion carried 6-0.
II: REZONING - SARRES PLAT
Kurt Koeppler, petitioner and owner requests the Plan Commission review and approve the rezoning of
an area of the Sarres Plat from R-3 Multiple Dwelling District to R-2 Two Family Residence District.
The area proposed for rezoning generally fronts Wisconsin Street and Packer Avenue.
Mr. Smith asked what the reason was for the rezoning. Mr. Bluemke stated the owner wants to construct
duplexes instead of condominiums as originally planned, and the rezoning would ensure only one
structure would be constructed per lot.
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Kurt Koeppler, 1726 Rivermill Road, stated he was the owner of the property and his original intent was
to construct single story condominiums. He stated after the Copps Grocery Store was constructed, he felt
duplexes would be a better fit with the layout of the area. He stated this would also prevent the
elimination of lot lines and be a better marketing tool for selling the homes in the adjacent R-1, Single
Family Residence District.
Mr. Krueger noted the map included with the Staff Report showed lot number 38 divided into several
lots. Mr. Bluemke stated the map was sent out in error and will be used at the next meeting to review a
revision to the Final Plat.
Mr. Blassingame stated he had voted in favor of the R-3 zoning in the past, and felt it provided a better
buffer for the adjacent commercial district than an R-2 zoning district would. Mr. Smith stated since
there was one person in control of the entire area he would vote in favor of the rezoning.
Motion by Smith for approval of the rezoning from R-3 Multiple Dwelling District to R-2
Two Family Residence District. Motion carried 5-1. Nay: Blassingame.
III: RENEWAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT/DEVELOPMENT PLAN
REVIEW
The University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh, petitioner and owner, is asking for renewal of a Conditional
Use Permit (CUP) approved by the Plan Commission on November 17, 1998 and the Common Council
on December 8, 1998, relative to an addition the heating plant located on Woodland Avenue between
High Avenue and Algoma Boulevard. The Zoning Ordinance stipulates that CUP’s lapse and become
void if the activity does not commence within one year, and given the fact the project did not get
underway in that time, it is necessary for the City to renew the CUP pertaining to the heating plant
project. The subject site is zoned R-5 PD Multiple Dwelling District with a Planned Development
Overlay.
Mr. Bluemke stated that by allowing a 0' front yard setback along Woodland Avenue and a 9'5"
transitional yard setback for the High Street parking lot, the University would be able to expand the
heating/cooling plant in a manner that would be the least obtrusive to the neighborhood, and basically
internal to the campus. He also explained the Planned Development Overlay applied to the area gives
the Plan Commission the chance to review the project. He stated that in regard to the parking lot, the
neighbors and the community have been able to work with the University to provide additional green
space and landscaping.
Mr. Bluemke stated an additional condition to the Conditional Use Permit/Development Plan Review
had been made by the Common Council in December of 1998, which stated no buildings be constructed
within a minimum of 50 feet or the width of the original lot, whichever is greater, from the south lot line
of 1027 Algoma Blvd, and should be included at this time also.
Joel Edson, UW-Oshkosh representative, stated he was available to answer any questions the Plan
Commission may have.
Mr. Bettes stated this served as a good model where there was give and take between the University of
Wisconsin Oshkosh, the community, and the City Planning staff for everyone's benefit.
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Motion by Reschenberg for the approval of the Conditional Use Permit/Development Plan
with the following conditions:
1)No windows on the first floor of the south elevation be allowed to open outward.
2)The sidewalk on the north side of Woodland Avenue be extended to the curb line.
3)No buildings be constructed within a minimum of 50 feet or the width of the original
lot, whichever is greater, from the south lot line of 1027 Algoma Blvd.
Seconded by Bettes. Motion carried 6-0.
IV: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT: RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-THRU
Dale Nelsen, petitioner for Steve Winter, owner, requests the Plan Commission review and approve a
Conditional Use Permit for a restaurant with a drive-thru to be located on the lot directly south of the
new Copps store at 2551 Jackson Street. The area is characterized by commercial land uses and the
subject site is zoned C-2 General Commercial.
Mr. Bluemke used the maps as displayed to show the ingress and egress from the Copps parking lot for
the drive thru restaurant. He stated the restaurant with a drive-thru window would be located in a 9,000
square foot commercial building to be constructed south of the new Copps store on Jackson Street. He
noted that there would be ample space for the traffic to stack up in the parking lot with the exit being to
either Jackson Street or Wisconsin Street. He stated condition is included for no direct access to Jackson
Street be allowed from the subject property.
Mr. Bettes asked what the use between Jackson Street and the Restaurant was. Mr. Bluemke stated there
was a parking lot between Jackson Street and the Restaurant.
Mr. Borsuk asked what the distance was to the nearest curb cut. Mr. Bluemke stated about 100' , which
also included an easement and a setback.
Dale Nelsen, 4300 N. Richmond Street, Appleton, stated he was available for questions.
Mr. Borsuk stated this appeared to be similar to the conditional use permit for the auto parts store on
Murdock Avenue as reviewed at the last meeting. Mr. Smith stated he didn't see the similarity as the
auto parts store was proposed in a large strip mall, and this was proposed near a grocery store. Mr.
Bettes also stated the egress at this site was different from the Murdock Ave. site where vehicles would
have to cross two lanes of traffic.
Cindy Grancorbitz, 2447 Jackson Street, stated she lived next to the proposed commercial building. She
stated she had a fenced in yard and swimming pool, but was still concerned with the lighting, and the
location of the trash. She also stated her driveway would be located next to the restaurant's drive-thru
and wanted to be assured her driveway wasn't mistaken for the restaurant's driveway.
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Dale Nelsen, stated there would be changes to the site plan, as he would have to comply with the City
Zoning Ordinance in regards to the transitional yard setback and landscaping requirements. He stated he
has been working with the City's Planning Services Division who will be reviewing the site plan further
to ensure the lighting, setbacks and landscaping are done in a fashion to protect her property.
Mr. Smith asked if this was a Conditional Use Permit for the Restaurant with drive-thru only, since it
would be only using 1,800 square feet of a 9,000 square foot commercial building proposed for the site.
Mr. Bluemke confirmed the Conditional Use Permit was only for the Restaurant with the drive-thru.
Mr. Kinney stated the Staff Report submitted to the Common Council will point out the changes on the
site plan per the Ordinance Requirements, however, he stated the only issue before the Plan Commission
was for approval of the restaurant with the drive-thru.
Discussion continued regarding the recent changes in the ordinance regarding the lighting in the area
and if problems with older lighting fixtures could be required to comply with the ordinance revision.
Mr. Bettes stated it seemed premature to approve the conditional use permit for the restaurant with the
drive-thru when there were issues on the site plan that needed to be corrected. He stated he would like to
see what impact the design had on the surrounding area. Mr. Burton stated he would like to see the
entire plan. Mr. Kinney stated the changes to the site plan would include changing the setback to 19' 3"
to the neighbor, having the dumpster relocated on the site, and relocating the sign to comply with the
City's Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Kinney stated a revised site plan could be required before the item was
taken to the Common Council, or they could lay over the item if they wished.
Mr. Smith stated since it was getting so close to the building season, and only minor changes were
needed, he would approve the conditional use permit this time, however, he asked to see the site plan in
future cases as it would appear before the Common Council. Mr. Reschenberg agreed with Mr. Smith in
regards to have everything ready for the Plan Commission, as it would be taken to the Common Council.
Mr. Blassingame stated since neighbors have expressed some concerns at this time he would not
approve the item without the corrections made to the site plan.
Motion by Smith for the approval of the Conditional Use Permit for a restaurant with a
drive-thru pick up window to be in compliance with the standards of Section 30-11, with
the following condition:
1)No direct access to Jackson Street be allowed from the subject property.
Seconded by Reschenberg. Motion denied 2-4. Nays: Bettes, Blassingame, Borsuk, and
Krueger.
Motion by Bettes to lay over the item until the next meeting. Seconded by Krueger. Motion
carried 4-2. Nays: Reschenberg and Smith
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V: PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 30 – ZONING AND SUBDIVISION
REGULATIONS
The Department of Community Development requests the Plan Commission review and recommend
approval of text amendments to Chapter 30 of the Municipal Code. The proposed amendments are
suggested by the Department to allow a day care center in the R-1 Single Family Residence District and
the R-1C Single Family Central Residence District by Conditional Use Permit (CUP).
Mr. Bluemke stated the text amendment was basically proposed to approve day care facilities in an R-1
and R-1C zoning district through the use of a conditional use permit. He went on to explain the two
types of day care facilities.
Mr. Smith asked how a day care facility was approved on the corner of Oshkosh Avenue and Westfield
Street. Mr. Bluemke stated a day care is a permitted use in a R-2 zoning district through approval of a
conditional use permit. He stated that old churches and schools used for day care services could prove to
be a stabilizing influence in older neighborhoods if this amendment were to be approved.
Motion by Blassingame for approval of the text amendments to Chapter 30 of the
Municipal Code. Seconded by Krueger. Motion carried 6-0.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
JOHN C. BLUEMKE
Principal Planner
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