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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES MARCH 7, 2000 PRESENT: Lee Bettes, Lurton Blassingame, Melanie Bloechl, David Borsuk, Don Krueger, Achim Reschenberg, Jim Smith, and John Ruppenthal EXCUSED: Steve Gehling and Scott Saunders STAFF: Jackson Kinney, Director of Community Development; John Bluemke, Principal Planner; and Vickie Rand, Recording Secretary The meeting was called to order by Chairman Ruppenthal. Roll call was taken and a quorum declared present. The minutes of February 15, 2000 were approved as mailed. ITEM I: CONSENT AGENDA A: Land Division 3308 Oregon Street Reinhard Roehlig, petitioner for Steve Mugerauer, owner, requests the Plan Commission review and approve a land division for property located on at 3308 Oregon Street. Nick Reinhart, 3308 Oregon Street stated he was present to answer any questions. Mr. Smith questioned if there was a request for rezoning. He stated a dwelling on an M-3 site would be impossible to refinance should the need arise. Mr. Bluemke stated the request at this time was to create a lot. Mr. Ruppenthal made sure Mr. Reinhart was aware of the M-3 zoning requirements as it related to rebuilding a dwelling in a M-3 Zoning District. Mr. Reschenberg asked if this lot would be in the City of Oshkosh for the accessibility of water and sewer service. Mr. Bluemke stated the lot was in the City of Oshkosh, therefore services would be available. Motion by Bloechl for approval of the Land Division at 3308 Oregon Street. Seconded by Blassingame. Motion carried 9-0. Plan Commission Minutes Page 2 March 7, 2000 II: RYF ROAD ANNEXATION Grundy Enterprises, petitioner and owner, requests the Plan Commission review and approve the Ryf Road Annexation generally located west of Edgewood Road and south of Ryf Road in the Town of Oshkosh. Temporary and permanent zoning of R-1 Single Family Residence and temporary zoning of A-2 General Agriculture has been requested. Mr. Bluemke introduced the item to the Plan Commission explaining it was a majority annexation and used the map displayed to point out the layout for different zoning uses. He also noted the State of Wisconsin has reviewed the annexation and found it not to be against public interest. Jim Killinger, 2700 Edgewood Lane questioned if annexing this parcel wouldn’t create an island. Mr. Bluemke stated it would not create an island since it was adjacent to water in the Town of Oshkosh. Gerald Frey, 4804 Island View Drive, Town of Oshkosh Chairman, stated he was a member of the United Towns Committee who were discussing boundary agreements, and stated this parcel was a crucial area for the future development in the Town of Oshkosh. He stated he had met with Mr. Russell Knetzger, a planning consultant hired by the Town of Oshkosh, who suggested he ask the Plan Commission for a 60 day delay as he had recommended 1/3 of this parcel remain in the township. He stated Mr. Knetzger was working getting close to getting an agreement with the City in regard to the growth boundary. Mr. Kinney stated he is also a member of the United Towns Committee, who has been discussing an appropriate City/Town growth scenario over the last two years with Mr. Knetzger. He stated Mr. Knetzger hadn’t recommended this annexation as an area of growth for the Town of Oshkosh, or to be split in any way. Mr. Frey stated he had just met with Mr. Knetzger Tuesday, February 29, and was attended the meeting to request a 60 day delay per Mr. Knetzger’s suggestion. Mr. Kinney stated he didn’t feel it was appropriate at this time to delay the annexation since a lot of preparation has been done on this property before submitting an application for Annexation to the City of Oshkosh. Phil Grundy, representing Grundy Enterprises, stated the Shangri La sewer district wouldn’t service this parcel because of the understanding the area would be annexed to the City of Oshkosh for water and sewer services. He stated utility services are needed to develop this area. Mr. Borsuk asked why Mr. Knetzger was recommending for 1/3 of the property to remain in the township. Mr. Frey stated it was recommended for drainage purposes. Mr. Kinney stated any maps he has seen for the Ryf Road area prepared by Mr. Knetzger had not included the subject property. Mr. Smith asked if the School District had property in the area. Mr. Bluemke stated the School District property is west of the recreation trail. Mr. Blassingame asked what affect Winnebago County has had on this parcel. Mr. Frey stated the United Towns Committee has been working for many years to come up with a boundary agreement that would be good for a 20-year period. Mr. Frey again reiterated that Mr. Knetzger recommended he ask for a 60 day delay to resolve boundary lines on this property. Plan Commission Minutes Page 3 March 7, 2000 Mrs. Bloechl stated the request for a 60 day delay was inappropriate at this time. She stated the Grundy’s had no assurance the Common Council would agree with the new boundary lines proposed by the Town of Oshkosh. She stated the Grundy’s have made many preparations on their land in good faith that it would be annexed to the City of Oshkosh who would be able to provide services needed to develop the property. However, Mrs. Bloechl asked if the A-2 zoning would become permanent. Mr. Bluemke stated the A-2 zoning request would be temporary to ensure an area would be available for the Grundy’s to store their farm machinery, but a request would come forward for R-1 zoning as the property was developed. Phil Grundy reiterated the only way for them to obtain sanitary service on this property was to become annexed to the City of Oshkosh. Motion by Krueger to approve the Ryf Road Annexation with temporary and permanent zoning of R-1, and temporary zoning of A-2. Seconded by Reschenberg. Motion carried 9- 0. Mr. Bettes questioned why a Planned Development Overlay was not recommended for this property, since this amount of acreage should be planned for and developed appropriately. He suggested a workshop take place in the future. Mr. Bluemke stated this property was being considered for a large residential area and would be developed according to the platting process. Mr. Kinney stated a PD had originally been recommended for another part of the Grundy farm area, but because the owners had done extensive land use planning, which include a school, trails, and a park, the staff didn’t feel it was necessary to apply a PD at this time. III: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT EXPANSION OF PAROCHIAL SCHOOL 3450 VINLAND ROAD Oshkosh Christian School, petitioner and owner, requests the Plan Commission review and approve a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for an addition to an existing school at 3450 Vinland Road. Except on the west side, the school is surrounded by single family homes or lots. The land to the west is vacant land. The site is zoned R-1 Single Family Residence District. Mr. Bluemke introduced the item using the map as displayed to show the layout of the school property for its current and future use. He noted single family housing surrounded the school. He pointed out the location of the proposed addition, which would enable the school to a serve a capacity of 500 students. He noted the current parking was sufficient for the school’s needs with the new addition, and the solid wood fence helps to mitigate any negative impact the parking lot might have on the surrounding neighborhood. Bill Harris, 2416 Noel Court, stated he previously had received a variance for a 10’ setback which required a solid wood fence but didn’t see where the current ordinance required a solid wood fence to block the view of an addition. He stated the addition would be 114’ from the property line. He also stated the addition would enable them to reach their potential to serve 500 students. Plan Commission Minutes Page 4 March 7, 2000 Mr. Bluemke stated a parking lot next to a residential area needs a 5’ high solid fence. He stated the condition for a fence to be extended on the south lot line was included in the Staff Report because future parking for 80 new stalls was approved in 1998 with 38 stalls added immediately and 42 stalls to be added in the future. He stated the 38 stalls received a variance for substandard setback, provided a berm and fence were installed to screen the stalls. He explained that with this condition the applicant could obtain a permit without applying for another variance. Mr. Smith asked why Mr. Harris had an objection to extending the solid wood fence. Mr. Harris stated it was very costly to install the fence. He stated they had no intention of creating more parking and he didn’t find any requirement for screening of the addition in the City Zoning Ordinance. Discussion continued regarding the need for the condition if only an addition was constructed or to include the condition only if the parking lot were expanded. Mr. Krueger asked if said condition would eliminate the need for a variance since the current fence was 6’ high on top of a 3’ berm instead of the 5’ high fence required by the zoning ordinance. Motion by Bloechl to approve a Conditional Use Permit for a 5,700 square foot addition to the existing Oshkosh Christian School be found consistent with Standards set forth in Section 30-11 (D) of the Zoning Ordinance, with the following condition: 1) The fence on the south lot line, which is a 6 foot high solid wood fence on a 3 foot berm, be extended up to an additional 132 feet to the east to provide more screening upon construction of an additional parking lot, with the approval of a variance by the Board of Appeals for a 6 foot high fence on a 3 foot berm. Seconded by Bettes. Motion carried 9-0. IV: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT/FLOODPLAIN ZONING MAP AMENDMENT Martenson & Eisele Inc., petitioner, Robert Stauffer, Etal, owner, request the Plan Commission review and approve a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) for filling in a designated shoreland area, and an th amendment to the City’s Floodplain Zoning Map. The subject property is generally located on 9 th Avenue between 2721 and 2639 W. 9 Avenue. Dave Eisele and Dennis Schwab introduced themselves and Mr. Eisele stated he has been working with the City of Oshkosh Planning staff, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) and the adjacent property owners to work out problems with drainage in the area. Mr. Ruppenthal asked if they had met with all the neighbors. Mr. Schwab stated they had met with all but one neighbor. He stated the neighborhood was in favor of the project. Mr. Eisele continued by showing a preliminary landscape plan, which would screen the neighbors from the proposed development, and be aesthetically pleasing for both the owners and the neighbors. Mrs. Bloechl asked what effect the development would have on the Storm Water Management plan the City is spending a lot of money on to determine the best way to handle drainage issues in the City. Mr. Bluemke stated this proposal should have no effect on the Storm Water Management because per the ordinance the water needs to be taken care of on the property. Mr. Eisele stated they were discussing filling in the flood fringe area with the DNR. Plan Commission Minutes Page 5 March 7, 2000 Chairman Ruppenthal explained the proposal was to fill in a floodplain on the east side of the property and excavate an equal amount of land on the northwest side of the property in order to replace the floodplain volume that would be lost due to the filling. Mrs. Bloechl argued that the continued construction of apartments and new hospital in the area were affecting the most sensitive area in the Storm Water Study. Mr. Eisele stated they have been working the Public Works Department to meet the ordinance standards. Motion by Krueger for approval of a Conditional Use Permit to fill in the shoreland area, and the amendment to the Floodplain Zoning Map be approved with the consent of the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources. Seconded by Blassingame. Motion carried 8- 1. Nay: Bloechl. V: UW-OSHKOSH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN Mr. Joel Edson introduced himself and Mr. Ken Saiki, Ken Saiki Design out of Madison, who has been working with the University to develop a comprehensive plan. Mr. Edson also introduced Mr. Donald Sonnleitner who would be taking his place upon retirement. Mr. Kinney stated he had asked Mr. Edson to give the Plan Commission an informal presentation of the University’s Master Plan. He stated the plan would be coming back to the Plan Commission in phases for review and action. Mr. Edson stated they have been working on a master plan since the fall of 1998 for the exterior of the campus and noted they have also been working with the appropriate City Departments. He handed out a map of the campus area and Mr. Saiki continued with a slide presentation on the UW-Oshkosh Campus Exterior Master Plan. He pointed out the main components of the plan which included a sense of place; defining the boundaries of the campus, parking and circulation; externally and internally, open space for the campus, building opportunities for the campus, riverfront development and the restrictions caused by the historical district, the residential district, the Fox River, and the Deltox and Radford properties. He pointed out how the University and City can blend together by unification of signage, furniture, lighting and outdoor events on the river, at the same time keeping the campus area well defined from the surrounding area. Traffic patterns on High Avenue and Algoma Boulevard was discussed along with uses for the foundry site and the complications a TIF District posed. Mr. Reschenberg asked what kind of time frame the University was looking at to accomplish this plan. Mr. Saiki stated the plan would probably be accomplished over a 20-year period depending on outside factors such as the Meritor and Deltox Companies. Mr. Saiki stated the circulation pattern would stay as it is in Phase I of the plan. He stated the realignment of Warren Road wouldn’t change the circulation within the campus. Discussion continued on the funding for Warren Road and how the State and the City would both be involved. Plan Commission Minutes Page 6 March 7, 2000 Mr. Kinney asked Mr. Edson what processes the plan needed to go through before it would come back to the City. Mr. Edson stated the plan would need to be approved by the University’s Governance Groups before coming back to the Plan Commission and going on to the Common Council at which time it could be included in the City’s Comprehensive Plan which he understood would be updated in 2003. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned. Respectfully submitted, JOHN C. BLUEMKE Principal Planner JCB/vlr