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OSHKOSH PARKING UTILITY COMMISSION MINUTES
AUGUST 5, 2009
PRESENT: Harold Buchholz, Mary Murken and Jim Stapel
ABSENT: Jay Ratchman
STAFF: Christopher Strong, Transportation Director
Jennifer Weigand, Recording Secretary
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Stapel called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ms. Murken moved to accept the July 8, 2009 minutes. Mr. Buchholz seconded the motion. Motion
carried (3-0).
FINANCIAL REPORTS
Mr. Buchholz felt the Board needed to take a step back and look at the deficit the Utility is operating
under. He requested that Ms. Steeno join us at next month’s meeting to help us prepare for the 2010
budget.
Ms. Murken moved to accept the financial reports. Mr. Buchholz seconded the motion. Motion
carried (3-0).
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1. ENDORSEMENT OF CONCEPT OF 4-HOUR PERMITS.
Scott Footit, BID officer, felt we should look for simplicity versus confusion. If the Board endorses this
concept mixed with the current permits we have, we would be taking a step backwards. He suggested
sticking to one type of permit like a daily permit.
There was question as to how drivers would know where the permits could be used. Mr. Stapel suggested
signs stating “permit parking”. Mr. Footit felt the problem with that signage would be there are several
different time periods and enforcement would than fall on administration’s shoulders. Capt. Schoeni,
OPD, felt enforcement could become unmanageable.
Mr. Stapel asked if all permits would eventually be in the same place. At some time, Mr. Strong replied
he would like them all on the dashboards. For now, he noted that there is a multi-year supply of parking
stickers which will continue to be placed on the rear bumpers.
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Mr. Stapel felt the 4-hour permit would help the salon customers. He felt it was a good idea and it would
cost less than a $1.00. It’s not a perfect solution but he felt we need something for this type of business
that provides a service to their customers for a few hours a day.
Capt. Schoeni, OPD, informed the Board that some businesses provide shuttle service to their customers
so they can avoid parking problems. Mr. Strong noted there are also areas near downtown, such as parts
of Division Street north of Church Avenue, where parking is available without time restriction.
Mr. Strong said the daily permit has been previously endorsed by the Board as a necessary tool to
support the removal of parking meters. He asked whether Commission members felt that the 4-hour
permit was necessary to make the meter removal program work. Mr. Stapel said there isn’t a good
answer to this problem.
Mr. Buchholz was opposed to this idea.
Mr. Buchholz moved to table this request. Ms. Murken seconded the motion. Motion carried (2-1
Stapel)
2. APPROVAL OF DAILY/4-HOUR PERMIT DESIGN AND DISTRIBUTION.
Mr. Strong explained the permit design. He noted that the larger quantity purchased, the cost is reduced.
Mr. Stapel suggested checking with local printers for pricing. Mr. Strong explained his ideas on
publicizing this program so people are aware of it.
Mr. Buchholz asked if signs would be posted in the parking lots. Mr. Strong said as the meters are
pulled, the signs would be posted stating “permit parking”. Capt. Schoeni suggested striping the lots with
different colored stripes to help with reinforcement of the signage. Mr. Stapel suggested holding off on
different colored stripes for a couple of months until we see how this works.
Ms. Murken suggested possibly setting aside specific parking spots for salon customers. Mr. Stapel said
this would be taking spots away from the general inventory. This could open up a can of worms because
this would become business-specific and each business would want their own spots. Under this type of
scenario, Mr. Strong wondered if the businesses would be willing to pay a premium fee for these spaces.
He noted that there could be challenges with enforcing that these spaces are used only by employees or
customers of specific businesses.
Mr. Buchholz said we should take a slower approach to this permit concept to make sure we are doing it
properly and execution is thought out. From a revenue standpoint, we are not going to make a lot of
money with these permits but it may cause some issues with enforcement. The Board’s decision should
be based on two aspects: enforcement and the general public’s reaction.
Mr. Footit said that the permit program needs to take in consideration the three groups of users: business
employees, residents and customers.
Mr. Stapel suggested, under the instruction section, underlining and using all capital letters for the word
“INK”.
Ms. Murken moved to accept the permit design with Mr. Stapel’s suggestion and Mr. Strong’s
distribution plan. Mr. Buchholz seconded the motion. Motion carried (3-0).
3. RECOMMENDATION FOR PENALITIES FOR VIOLATIONS OF DAILY PERMITS.
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Mr. Buchholz suggested increasing the Fire Lanes violation fine to $50, which is a major violation
comparable to the Disabled Parking violation.
Ms. Murken questioned why the No Parking 2 a.m. – 5 a.m. fine is less than the Overtime Parking
Violation fine, when the severity of these two violations seems the same to her. She suggested
increasing the No Parking 2 a.m. -5 a.m. fine to $15. Capt. Schoeni noted it has been approximately over
eight years since this violation fine had been looked at.
Mr. Stapel suggesting increasing the cost of the Meter Violations fine to $10.
Mr. Buchholz moved to accept the request with the following amendments and additions: No parking
2 a.m. – 5 a.m. $15; Overtime Parking $15, Meter Violations $10; Fire Lanes $50; Other Violations
$20; Failure to properly display permit $15 and Fraudulent use of permit $30. Ms. Murken seconded
the motion. Motion carried (3-0).
4. ESTABLISHMENT OF PERMIT PARKING RATE SCHEDULE.
Mr. Strong questioned if it was appropriate for a bulk purchase discount. Mr. Stapel and Mr. Buchholz
were not opposed to this idea.
Mr. Buchholz moved to accept the request. Ms. Murken seconded the motion. Motion carried (3-0).
NEW BUSINESS
5. REMOVAL OF PARKING METERS FROM A) HIGH AVENUE LOT, B) PEARL LOT, C) 400
BLOCK WEST, D) BROWN STREET BETWEEN ALGOMA BOULEVARD AND HIGH
AVENUE AND E) UW-O STREETS (ALGOMA BLVD., ELMWOOD AVE. & IRVING AVE.)
Ms. Murken moved to accept the request. Mr. Buchholz seconded the motion. Motion carried (3-0).
6. REQUEST FOR UNRESTRICTED PARKING IN OTTER AVENUE LOT.
No action taken. Request was laid over.
7. SATURDAY ENFORCEMENT OF MUNICIPAL PARKING LOT ORDINANCE.
No action taken. Request was laid over.
AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT MEETING
None.
STAFF STATEMENTS
8. UPDATE ON 400 BLOCK EAST RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT
Mr. Strong gave a brief summary on the current status of this project.
ADJOURNMENT
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There being no other business to come before the Parking Utility Commission, and upon being duly
moved and seconded (Murken, Buchholz), the meeting adjourned at 5:10 p.m.