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ITY OF SHKOSH ISCONSIN
REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday, May 12, 2009 at 6:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City
Hall.
Mayor Esslinger presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Bob Poeschl, Tony Palmeri, Burk Tower, Dennis McHugh,
Jessica King and Mayor Esslinger
ALSO PRESENT: Mark Rohloff, City Manager, Angela Joeckel, Deputy City Clerk, Lynn
Lorenson, City Attorney, and Dave Patek, Director of Public Works
Council Member Poeschl read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Breana and Meagan Smits students from Emmeline Cook
Elementary School; and, Logan Peterson and Alexandra Molinski students from Oaklawn
Elementary School.
PH
UBLIC EARINGS
Ordinance 09-161 Approve Zone Change from M-2 Central Industrial to C-3 Central
Commercial with a Downtown Overlay / Generally located south of
Waugoo Avenue, north of Ceape Avenue, west of Court Street and east
of State Street (Plan Commission Recommends Approval)
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
There were no appearances and the Public Hearing was CLOSED.
Ordinance 09-162 Approve Zone Change from R-1 Single Family and R-5 Multiple Dwelling
to R-5 Multiple Dwelling with a Planned Development Overlay / 450
Josslyn Street (Plan Commission Recommends Approval)
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
There were no appearances and the Public Hearing was CLOSED.
Ordinance 09-163 Approve Various Amendments to Section 30-36 Off-Street Parking and
Loading Facilities of Chapter 30 Zoning Ordinance (Plan Commission
Recommends Approval)
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
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There were no appearances and the Public Hearing was CLOSED.
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Resolution 09-164 Approval of Final Resolution for Special Assessments / Asphalt Paving,
Sanitary Sewer Laterals, Sidewalk Repair and Concrete Driveway
Approach (East New York Avenue, Powers Street, Monroe Street, Broad
Street)
MOTION: LAYOVER UNTIL MAY 26, 2009 MEETING (Palmeri; second, King)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
There were no appearances and the Public Hearing was CLOSED.
Resolution 09-165 Approval of Final Resolution for Special Assessments / Concrete Paving,
Sanitary Sewer Laterals (Relay) Sidewalk Repair and Concrete Driveway
Approach (East New York Avenue, Oak Street, Grove Street, Evans
Street, Bowen Street)
MOTION: LAYOVER UNTIL MAY 26, 2009 MEETING (Palmeri; second, King)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
Bill Sitter, 1114 East New York Avenue, stated that the north side of New York Avenue should
not have to pay for the cost of improvements due to that side of the street was not hooked up
to the sewer. He urged Council to use the utility funds to pay for that cost.
Tom Rehm, 1205 Hazel Street, stated that his side of the street was in good condition and he
should not have to pay for repairs due to damage from City construction on the other side of
the street.
Mayor Esslinger requested that the City Manager send a letter of explanation to the residents
regarding their concerns.
Mr. Rohloff stated that there was a lower cost provided to residents previously in a similar
situation.
There were no more appearances and the Public Hearing was CLOSED.
CA
ONSENT GENDA
Approval of April 21, 2009 Council Minutes.
Approval of Bills Presented by the Finance Director.
Approval to Lourdes High School / Utilize South Park for their Physical Education Mile Run /
May 18, 2009.
Approval to Chamber of Commerce & Oshkosh Area Economic Development Corporation /
Utilize Grand Opera House Square for Live at Lunch / June 30, 2009.
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Approval to Residents of East Melvin Avenue for a Block Party / May 16, 2009.
Approval to Residents of Minnesota Street for a Block Party / June 27, 2009.
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Approval to University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh / Close both sides of North Sawyer Street for
their USA Master Outdoor Track and Field Championships / July 12, 2009. WITHDRAWN
Receipt of Claim filed with the City’s Insurance Company / Doris Luedtke for injuries due to
allegedly falling in Seniors Center parking lot.
Receipt of Claim filed with the City’s Insurance Company / Mark Hoegh for damages due to
alleged power surge from the Water Distribution Department.
Resolution 09-166 Approve Appointments to Council Members for the Following Boards and
Commissions / Transit Advisory Board, Housing Authority, Plan
Commission, Grand Opera House Advisory Board, Landmarks
Commission, Traffic Review Advisory Board, Convention and Visitors
Bureau Board, Parks Advisory Board, Grand Opera House Foundation
Board, Redevelopment Authority, Energy and Environment Advisory
Committee
Resolution 09-167 Approval of Change Order No. 3, for Public Works Contract No. 08-04
with Vinton Construction Co. for Concrete Paving and Utilities
(+$60,841.97)
Resolution 09-168 Approval of Change Order No. 1, for Public Works Contract No. 09-03
with PTS Contractors Inc. for Concrete Paving and Water Main
(+$25,988.15)
Resolution 09-169 Approve Amendment No. 1 / Strand Associates, Inc. / Engineering
Services for Wastewater Utility Heating and Ventilation Improvements
(+$3,000.00)
Resolution 09-170 Approval of Initial Resolution for Special Assessments for Construction of
Driveway Entrance at:
A) 135 High Avenue
B) 139 High Avenue
C) 141 High Avenue
Resolution 09-171 Approve Winnebago County Recycling Surplus Revenue Ballot
Council Member Tower questioned the amount of surplus revenue received from Winnebago
County Recycling.
Mr. Patek stated that the amount was $425,420 for the entire County and the City would
receive 1/3. He explained that if Winnebago County Recycling was in the red then the tipping
fee would be increased; and the money received would go back to them for the fee.
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Council Member Tower questioned what the affect would be if they operated at a zero profit.
Mr. Rohloff stated that the County as a whole decided what to do with funding. He stated that
the County fund balance would reduce City tipping fees.
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Mr. Patek stated that the City could receive the funding or use the funds to stabilize the tipping
fees.
Resolution 09-172 Approve Petition for the Establishment of a new at grade Crossing of the
Wisconsin and Southern Railroad by Global Parkway in the Southwest
Industrial Park
Resolution 09-173 Authorize Fire Act Grant Application / Department of Homeland Security
through FEMA for Funding for Materials and Equipment Necessary for
Ethanol Fires
Resolution 09-174 Approve 2009/2010/2011 Pollock Community Water Park Agreement with
Oshkosh Area School District / Lifeguard Services / Use of Oshkosh West
High School Parking Lot
Resolution 09-175Approval of Special Class B License, Class “B” Fermented Malt and Class
“C” Wine License and Operator’s Licenses
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING RESOLUTIONS 09-167,
09-168, 09-169 AND 09-174 (McHugh; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
Resolution 09-167 Approval of Change Order No. 3, for Public Works Contract No. 08-04
with Vinton Construction Co. for Concrete Paving and Utilities
(+$60,841.97)
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, McHugh)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
Council Member Poeschl questioned what the original amount had been and what issues
changed or amended that amount.
Mr. Patek stated that the pages behind the change order explained what changes were made.
He explained that an estimate cost was given and depending on what happens once the work
begins in the field determines the changes. He stated that a change order was needed for the
Finance Department regarding audits.
Resolution 09-168 Approval of Change Order No. 1, for Public Works Contract No. 09-03
with PTS Contractors Inc. for Concrete Paving and Water Main
(+$25,988.15)
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, McHugh)
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CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
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Resolution 09-169 Approve Amendment No. 1 / Strand Associates, Inc. / Engineering
Services for Wastewater Utility Heating and Ventilation Improvements
(+$3,000.00)
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, McHugh)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
Resolution 09-174 Approve 2009/2010/2011 Pollock Community Water Park Agreement with
Oshkosh Area School District / Lifeguard Services / Use of Oshkosh West
High School Parking Lot
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, McHugh)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that $40,000 was provided to the City for the Water Park through
a three year agreement with the Oshkosh Area School District regardless if there was a loss or
net gain. He questioned the suggestions that had been provided by the City Manager.
Mr. Rohloff stated that suggestions had been provided during the negotiation process with the
School District.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri questioned why there was not a non-resident user fee as other
communities had.
Mr. Rohloff explained that because funding was provided from tax dollars through the Oshkosh
Area School District there could not be a non-resident user fee. He stated that he was
unaware of other communities that had partnered up with school districts.
Mr. Stephany, Parks Director, stated that it was more inviting to all users for a flat fee.
Council Member Tower questioned what the probability was that the average cost would be
$40,000 or less over the next three years.
Mr. Stephany stated that $40,000 was a good amount for support. He explained that the
average cost had been $36,000 including last year’s cost.
Council Member Tower stated that he was concerned with the increase in cost since the first
year the pool opened.
Mr. Stephany explained that the first year was the grand opening therefore revenues were
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high. He stated that with the weather being cooler it created an $8,000 increase in utility cost
for heating the water. He stated that throughout the state there was an average loss of
$60,000.
Mr. Rohloff stated that the loss would be offset by the $40,000 received from the school district.
He stated that providing there were no catastrophic events this summer; management would be
able to have an indicator as to what the plateau would be as far as revenue and expenditures.
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CTION AKEN ON RDINANCES AND ESOLUTIONS
Ordinance 09-176 Approval of Loading Zone Change on Algoma Boulevard and Parking
Regulation Changes on Cherry and Wisconsin Street
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, Poeschl)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
Ordinance 09-177 Approve Clark/Hill Farm Attachment, Corner of STH 91 and Clairville
Road, Town of Algoma
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Resolution 09-178 Request State to Modify the Proposed Budget Bill in Regard to
Application of Prevailing Wage Rate to Local Projects
MOTION: ADOPT (McHugh; second, Poeschl)
LOST: Ayes (2) McHugh, Mayor Esslinger;
Noes (3) Poeschl, Palmeri, King;
Present (1) Tower
Gary Ruhl, 3160 Omro Road, representing 26 Local Unions and 9,000 active and retired
members, stated that 22% of prevailing wage was the same as union wage. He stated that the
prevailing wage would not make government projects more costly, affect maintenance or
volunteer work. He stated that two local unions had volunteered their time to work on the
construction of Little Oshkosh.
Greg Young, business manager for Brotherhood of Electrical Workers based out of Appleton,
stated that there were 40 members that lived in the Oshkosh area. He stated that he was
opposed to the resolution and that it should remain as is.
Rich Eggleston, Communications and Community Outreach Coordinator for WI Alliance of
Cities, stated that the calculation process for creating the prevailing wage was a farce. He
stated that the prevailing wage rates could affect the taxpayers.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri questioned if prevailing wage rate and union rates were equal.
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Mr. Eggleston explained that the prevailing wage rate was close to union scale due to union
contractors filling out the surveys.
Deputy Mayor questioned why federal law would not apply to state projects.
Mr. Eggleston explained that federal law was specific with issues while allowing exceptions.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that federal dollars had been received to the state; therefore, it
would make sense to have the prevailing wage applied to state projects.
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Mr. Eggleston stated that state law applied to contracts.
Paul Zimmer, Wild Rose, stated that he was representing Local Union 330 out of Menasha. He
stated that there were mistruths regarding prevailing wages. He stated that small contractors
do not bid due to not being able to provide the proper bonding. He explained that the
prevailing wage does not eliminate any contractor. He stated that union wages do not affect
the prevailing wage. He stated that there needed to be a stopping rate as to stop the
increases each year.
Steve Schue, Organizer for Wisconsin Pipe Fitters, non-union workers, urged the Council to
support the prevailing wage for non-union workers as they would be the ones affected. He
explained that the prevailing wage rates helped non-union workers maintain wages. He stated
that the wage was adjusted for inflation and does not increase the cost for projects.
Wynn Jones, 5192 County Road R, President of Brick Layers Local Union, stated that there
would be no affect to volunteer projects. He stated that along with him, fourteen other brick
layers volunteered their time and built the Oshkosh Soccer League pavilion while providing
75% off of the cost for materials. He stated that a local business had been built from a group
out of state with no prevailing wage or union wage and those workers did not support local
businesses, schools or would not pay taxes to the city. He explained that when the job was
completed the workers left and went back to their home state. He stated that local workers
support the surrounding area.
Steve Dito stated that he was a local laborer. He stated that there was misinformation
regarding prevailing wage rates. He explained how the determination was made for prevailing
wage rates.
Council Member Tower stated that there were two sides to each story. He questioned if there
were any numbers to support the difference between prevailing wage and union wages.
Gary Ruhl stated that prevailing wage rates could be higher or lower depending upon location.
Mr. Rohloff stated that the resolution was brought forward to determine what impact it would
have among City projects.
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Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated he was opposed to the resolution. He stated that the prevailing
wage should be reformed for a maximum level of fairness not only for the workers but to
guarantee the quality of work. He stated that he supported the Governor’s changes.
Council Member Tower stated that he would abstain from voting due to the concern he had for
the language in the resolution.
Council Member McHugh stated that the Governor’s proposal was not the correct stance to
take however he felt that changes were needed.
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Resolution 09-179 Establish Process to Fill an Existing Vacancy on the City Council
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, Poeschl)
MOTION: AMEND TO ADD DISCUSSION AFTER CANDIDATES PRESENTATION;
APPLICANTS TO INCLUDE EMPLOYMENT HISTORY WITH
APPLICATION AND HAVE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER PROVIDE THEIR
CRITERIA FOR SELECTING AN APPLICANT (Tower; second, King)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger;
Noes (1) Poeschl
MOTION: AMEND TO INCLUDE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (Poeschl; No second)
LOST: LACK OF SECOND
MOTION: AMEND TO INCLUDE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC TO ASK
QUESTIONS OF APPLICANTS AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION, PRIOR
TO COUNCIL DISCUSSION; HAVE APPLICATIONS AVAILABLE FOR
PUBLIC TO VIEW AND NOTIFY CITIZENS HOW TO ACCESS THE
APPLICANT INFORMATION (King; second, Poeschl)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Poeschl, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger;
Noes (1) Tower
MOTION: DELETE FROM THE APPLICATION PROCESS: LETTERS THAT
WOULD INCLUDE APPLICANTS NAME AND ADDRESS; TELEPHONE
OR METHOD OF CONTACT AND A BRIEF STATEMENT (NOT
EXCEEDING ONE PAGE) EXPLAINING WHY THEY WISH TO BE
APPOINTED (Poeschl; second, King)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
VOTE ON RESOLUTION AS AMENEDED
CARRIED: Ayes (4) Poeschl, McHugh, Palmeri, Mayor Esslinger;
Noes (2) Tower, King
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Bob Cornell, 548 West Smith Avenue, stated that the democratic process would be to hold an
election; however, that was not possible with the time restrictions. He stated that to not accept
the fourth place finisher would be ignoring 4,000 voters. He stated that Council was choosing
the candidate with their votes rather then whom the citizens voted for.
Dan Rylance, 602 East Parkway Avenue, stated that the vacancy had been predictable. He
suggested that Council could have been proactive and had an ordinance regarding this
situation or had printed the ballots with a choice of candidates if this issue would happen. He
suggested that Council Members nominate a candidate and defend why their candidate should
be selected. He stated that his concern with the suggested process was what if there were no
good choices for candidates. He urged Council to take time to decide after the presentations
rather than choosing that evening.
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Steve Barney, 1335 Summit Avenue, stated that there was one candidate that received
majority vote the rest received plurality votes.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that his first choice, if possible, would have been a special
election to fill the vacancy. He stated that the fourth place finisher had received 4,000 votes;
however, there were 7,000 voters that had not supported him. He stated that this process was
used in various places throughout the state. He stated that the idea of having Council
Members choose a nominee was good; however, it would make for hyper political process if
Council Members choice had been elected.
Council Member Tower stated that this issue was the reason candidates should not be allowed
to run for another seat while currently serving a position. He stated that the process should be
to elect the fourth place finisher. He stated that there should be a discussion regarding the
criteria for selecting a candidate. He stated that the candidate should submit a resume with
employment history and pay taxes to the City. He stated that the majority of e-mails he had
received urged Council to move forward with the fourth place finisher.
Bob Cornell, 548 West Smith Avenue, stated that the amendments would clarify issues. He
questioned if the original resolution would not pass, if the option of electing the fourth place
finisher could be a suggested process.
Ms. Lorenson stated that if the resolution would fail, four votes from Council would approve the
process at the next meeting. She stated that due to the provided material this resolution was
for the process of applications being submitted.
Council Member King stated that due to parliament process she disagreed. She stated that all
options should be a choice for determining the process.
Council Member Poeschl stated that he would like to have an opportunity for the public to ask
questions of the applicants. He stated that he would like to conduct a public hearing.
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Ms. Lorenson stated that the three amendments suggested were friendly amendments and
would be incorporated into the requirements.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri questioned if candidates would be questioned during citizen statements
from audience members.
Ms. Lorenson explained that the Council would have no control over the questions being
asked. She stated that citizen statements were an opportunity for the citizens to address
Council.
Council Member King stated that questions from the citizens would be at a separate time from
citizen statements. She stated that the Mayor would be allowed to order “out of order” with
inappropriate questions during the process.
Council Member Tower requested clarification as far if questions from citizens would be
directed to the candidates themselves or to Council Members.
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Council Member Poeschl stated that citizens would question applicants.
Council Member King stated that she supported the citizen input.
Dan Rylance, 602 East Parkway Avenue, stated that by having citizens ask questions would be
creating a campaign during the meeting.
Lois Luebke, 619 Division Street, stated that it was important to have citizens ask questions.
Bob Cornell, 548 West Smith Avenue, stated that he agreed with Mr. Rylance that it would be
proposing an inquisition.
Council Member Tower stated that he was opposed to the amendment because it could
become a campaign. He stated that citizens could contact the Council prior the presentation
with input and questions.
Bob Cornell, 548 West Smith Avenue, questioned if there would be enough time allowed for
the candidates names to be available to the public.
Mayor Esslinger explained that the Council and the media would receive information containing
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applications as all applications needed to be turned in by May 22. He stated that he
supported having citizen input.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri questioned if applicants would include a letter of intent.
Council Member Poeschl stated that a letter could be included, however, it was redundant.
Council Member King stated that she did not support the process. She explained that she
supported to elect the fourth place finisher.
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Mayor Esslinger stated that he supported the application process.
Council Member Tower suggested that included in the criteria candidates should be able to
demonstrate their involvement with activities to make Oshkosh a better place and the success
they had, background with budgeting and employment history.
Council Member King urged past Council Members to apply due to the length of the term.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that the applicant needed to have integrity, be voting age and
have good will toward the City.
Council Member Poeschl stated that the process needed to be as simple and transparent as
possible.
Council Member McHugh stated that the applicant should have a strong economic
development concept and realistic visions for the future of Oshkosh.
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Mayor Esslinger stated that a strong economic development, past Council experience,
knowledgeable with budgets, be familiar with the City and able to work under pressure. He
urged citizens to contact Council Members with input.
Resolution 09-180 Accept Gift of Soo Line Railroad Engine
MOTION: TABLE UNTIL AFTER THE GIFT POLICY WAS IN PLACE (Tower;
second, King)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
Council Member Tower stated that he would like more information regarding the cost the City
would incur and assurance the donor would support the entire cost for the relocation.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri questioned if the gift giving policy would go before the Parks Board.
Ms. Lorenson stated that this issue would go before the Parks Board since it would be placed
in a park.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri questioned when the deadline was for the gift giving policy.
Ms. Lorenson stated that October was the deadline. She explained that they were working on
the Special Events Policy as that had priority.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that he supported tabling until the policy was in place.
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Council Member Poeschl questioned the urgency of the museum to remove the car from the
current site.
Mayor Esslinger stated that the engine would not be held for the City. He stated that there
would be no cost to the City. He stated that the Council Members could decide on the
donation policy.
Resolution 09-181 Authorize Grant Application to The Wisconsin Department of Natural
Resources for Targeted Runoff Management or Urban Nonpoint Source
(Pollution) and Storm Water Grant Program
MOTION: ADOPT (Palmeri; second, Tower)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Poeschl, Tower, McHugh, Palmeri, King, Mayor Esslinger
Steve Barney, 1335 Summit Avenue, stated that in April there was a resolution passed that
included all City owned and operated facilities to be included in the greenhouse gas emissions.
He stated that the facilities portion would be completed by the June meeting. He stated that
the community portion would be less labor intensive as it did not require as much detail as the
City’s portion had.
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Discussion of City Wide Goals for City Manager
Deputy Mayor Palmeri requested an update on goals from the City Manager. He stated that
the prior Council had determined that personal goals would be held in closed session. He
stated that it had been decided that City wide goals would be discussed in open session. He
stated that they would continue to work on the draft of goals along with goals that were
submitted by Council Members.
Mr. Rohloff stated that most of the goals would be contained in the budget document. He
stated that other goals would be continually worked on with the course of duties.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that Council Members would be allowed to discuss each general
goal.
Council Member King stated that she would include goal number one to include Division
Heads.
Mr. Rohloff stated that Council and Department Heads would be included. He stated that he
agreed there needed to be assistance from the division level.
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Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that he had included part D because it had been discussed last
year as to what a budget would include with no tax increases.
Mr. Rohloff stated that he would provide decision models with a different range of options. He
stated that it helped to understand the budget and make informed decisions.
Council Member Poeschl stated that once the goals were approved there should be public
forums held for input from citizens.
Mr. Rohloff stated that it would have to be for the following year’s goals.
Council Member Poeschl stated that he would like to review alternatives for the process of
evaluating street upgrades. He stated that he would also request an explanation regarding the
PASER (pavement surface evaluation and rating) system to help frustrated citizens understand
the process of determining why certain streets were repaired prior to other streets.
Mr. Rohloff explained that the PASER was a universal system used with in the state. He stated
that it would be beneficial to communicate the process of the PASER system.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri explained he preferred a point system to determine if the TIF would be
used for certain projects. He stated that this would help citizens to build confidence in the City
when developing TIF districts.
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Mr. Rohloff explained that the point system should not be used as a pass or fail situation. He
stated that it would provide guidelines in the decision process.
Council Member King stated that the recycling collection policy would be implemented by the
end of 2009. She stated that there should be community programs in place to educate and
encourage residents regarding recycling rates. She stated that a community wide incentive
program would encourage residents to continue to recycle.
Council Member McHugh questioned the employee cuts in the Street Department. He stated
that the department performed a variety of important tasks throughout the City. He questioned
if there was enough force in that department to handle the growth of the City. He questioned if
evaluations had been completed regarding the number of employees in each department
versus the work load. He questioned if the current location of the Street Department would be
adequate for the future of the City. He stated that there needed to be long range planning to
make decisions of that matter.
Mr. Rohloff stated that reviewing departments was an ongoing process. He stated that Mr.
Patek was reviewing the location for Central Garage/Street Department.
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Council Member King explained that brochures needed to be provided in different language to
allow for public safety and code enforcement. She stated that this would improve services to
residents of the City.
Council Member McHugh stated that he had requested the services of a grant writer at no cost
to the City.
Mr. Rohloff stated that there was an opportunity through block grant funds for grant money
through the Energy Efficiency program. He stated that this would be for energy related
services. He stated that he was not in support of a grant writer as a goal at this time. He
stated that the City was trying to increase grant money by being more competitive with seeking
grants.
Mayor Esslinger stated that grant money would be available to support positions for so long
and then the City would incur the cost.
Mr. Rohloff explained that the City was receiving $635,000. He stated that part of it would be
used as seed money to show achievements with efficiency. He stated that there would be a
revolving fund which would lessen the risk of not having anything to show for it.
Mayor Esslinger stated that he was concerned with the expense of having an individual hired to
negotiate bargaining with unions.
Mr. Rohloff stated that it was the City’s responsibility to successfully negotiate union contracts
to the degree of using outside services. He stated that many Cities use outside sources for
negotiating. He stated that it was the City Manager’s discretion as to when outside sources
would be used or not. He stated that he needed the flexibility to make successful decisions
regarding outside sources.
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Mayor Esslinger questioned if the individual had been in negotiating process from the
beginning in the past negotiations. He stated that the past Council had tried to hold
negotiations with the
faith in the staff. He explained that unions were angered that approximately $70,000 had been
spent on outside help for negotiating.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that the direction from Council would be to use existing staff.
Mr. Rohloff stated that the direction he was hoping for was a bargaining strategy and what
would be accepted by Council. He urged the Council to support his discretion pertaining to the
use of outside help when negotiating. He stated that the unions have professional negotiators
and that staff’s time was limited.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that Council was not at the point to determine direction regarding
bargaining. He questioned if that would be done in closed session.
Ms. Lorenson stated that it would be done in closed session.
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Council Member Tower stated that he would support adding bargaining issues into the City
Manager’s goals as that was a process that would be discussed at a later time.
Council Member King stated that Oshkosh was below the national average for green space per
1,000 people. She stated that an urban green space evaluation needed to be completed. She
also explained that there needed to be a tree planting policy.
Mr. Rohloff state that the tree planting policy needed to go to the Parks Board. He stated that
tree planting would be a cost the City would incur and would have to have funding available.
Council Member King stated that when issues were relegated to different Boards they seemed
to get lost. She stated that she was concerned with the point at which Council would become
micromanaging versus setting goals.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that a goal for 2009 should be to review the green space area
and create a tree planting policy.
Council Member McHugh explained that each year the same wish list was provided at the
Parks meeting. He stated that issues never moved forward. He stated that at the last Parks
meeting the CIP was drafted. He stated that $250,000 was budgeted for general fund. He
explained that maintenance was needed and issues that meant something to citizens needed
to be focused on. He stated that the Leach Amphitheatre bathroom cost $650,000.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri questioned if the goal would be added to the draft or not.
Mayor Esslinger stated that there was limited time to complete the goals and that the City
Manager could not be held accountable for not achieving all of the goals added to the list.
Mr. Rohloff stated that a long range plan could be developed and be discussed with staff. He
stated that for certain issues there needed to be funding available.
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Council Member Tower stated that he was content with the budget being submitted at an
earlier date. He stated that at the time the budget was received would be the time to prioritize
goals.
Council Member King explained that providing issues prior to budget would help budget
towards goals and priorities.
Council Member King stated that Transit was re-evaluating routes and timing issues. She
stated that services needed to be increased. She stated that bike and pedestrian routes would
be evaluated according with bus structure. She stated that there were no expectations to
accomplish all issues in 2009.
Mayor Esslinger applauded those Councilors that turned in additional goals. He stated that
any other issues needed to be in by Friday so they would be included in the Council packets.
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Mr. Fitzpatrick stated that the draft of goals would be helpful prior to receiving the budget.
Deputy Mayor Palmeri stated that the draft of goals should be in packet for the public to view.
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ITIZEN TATEMENTS
Lois Luebke, 619 Division Street, stated that she was trying to help the people of Oshkosh.
She questioned the cost of bathroom improvements. She stated that the citizens of Oshkosh
should be allowed to choose the animals for the zoo. She suggested to plant perennials with
help from volunteers. She urged the City to hire more staff at the zoo and for the parks.
Doug Buettner, 901A South Main Street, urged Council to adopt Bangladesh as a sister city of
Oshkosh. He stated that his concerns with the amount of child deaths that occur.
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Bill Fritz, 2015 Evans Street, stated that the 1 anniversary for Recovery Solutions would be
held on May 30. He stated that he wanted to personally invite all watching to attend. He
stated that the membership was gaining and the outreach program was expanding.
Steve Barney, 1335 Summit Avenue, explained that Madison was a sister city to another place.
He stated that more information could be found relating to this issue at the lifeyoucan
save.com.
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Council Member Poeschl announced that over the next two years he would hold 20 listening
sessions for public input. He stated that the first session would be held June 16 at the Fire
Station #17 at 1813 Algoma Boulevard, from 6 pm to 7:30 pm.
Mayor Esslinger stated that there was a position open for a citizen on Parking Utility and Board
of Appeals. He stated thanks to the Paine Art Center and Forestry Division for allowing him to
present a proclamation on Arbor Day; to North High School students and staff for allowing a
proclamation and key to a Wall of Fame person; for the National Day of Prayer as all Council
Members names were on the list and to the Hmong community for the kindness received at a
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celebration. He urged Council Members to provide input regarding the 4 of July parade.
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Mr. Rohloff stated that it was necessary to remove the ceiling from the Grand Opera House. He
stated that if the original artwork was there it would be salvaged. He stated that bid specs
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would be received by June 22, there would be a pre-bid walk through on July 1, opening of
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the bids would take place on July 15 and the bid would be awarded at the July 28 Council
meeting. He stated at the time of bid opening the City would know an approximate cost for the
renovations. He explained that the bids for a fire truck were waived and the Fire Department
recommended Pierce due to their current equipment was of Pierce products. He stated that
they had a good record and that Pierce was a local business. He stated that the bid was lower
than what had been budgeted.
Mayor Esslinger stated that he would prefer bids to come before Council for approval to waive.
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Mr. Rohloff stated that he would suggest changes to the purchasing code. He stated that it
was in his jurisdiction to waive the bid; however, he brought it before the Council.
Council Member Tower stated that historically it had been brought before Council for approval
and he would like to continue to have it brought before Council.
Mr. Rohloff explained that he had followed the codes.
MOTION: ADJOURN (Palmeri; second, McHugh)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 10:08 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
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