HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTESTRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES
FEBRUARY 18, 2009
4:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mary Louise Lewis, Diane Lowe, Troy Monday and Mike Norton
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jessica King, Diane Hoffman, Jeffrey Olmstead
OTHERS PRESENT: Christopher Strong, Transportation Director
David Vickman, Transit Coordinator
Chairperson Lewis called the meeting to order at 4:30 p.m.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSAL TO DECREASE FARES ASSOCIATED
WITH THE PARATRANSIT SYSTEM.
Chairperson Lewis opened the public hearing at 4:30 p.m.
Mr. Strong explained why this proposal was being brought back to Board.
Deb Ackerson, 223 Merritt Avenue, felt there was a misunderstanding because she was
under the assumption there would not be a fare increase for any Cabulance services and
the Board would look at it again in April, 2009.
Mr. Strong noted that Mr. Olmstead was under the same impression as Ms. Ackerson that
all ADA fares would not increase.
Mr. David Vickman said many fare increases were being considered at one time but it
was the after-hours fare increases that were approved. He noted these fare changes were
posted in all the vehicles and published in the local newspaper.
Ms. Ackerson said many people don't subscribe to the newspaper and the notices in the
vehicles are posted on the glove compartment, where the rider is unable to read these
notices from where they sit.
Mr. Norton asked if these notices are posted at other places like social services offices or
the Senior Center. Mr. Vickman replied no, but said that was a good suggestion and we
could do that in the future.
Mr. Strong said he attended a meeting where it was suggested that the transit system
could provide flyers that drivers could distribute to some of the more frequent riders. Ms.
Ackerson thought that was a great idea.
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Mr. Norton motioned to table the proposal until next month's meeting when Ms. King
and Mr. Olmstead could be present to voice their concerns. Mr. Monday seconded the
motion. Motion carried (4-0).
The public hearing was closed at 5:12 p.m.
ITEM #6 was heard next.
6. DISCUSSION OF TRANSIT SERVICE FOR THE OSHKOSH AREA
COMMUNITY PANTRY.
Mr. Steve Vickman, 1815 White Swan Drive, Executive Director of Oshkosh Area
Community Pantry, said the pantry was trying to ensure good transit access for their
clients, who are elderly, disabled and frequent bus riders. They would like a bus stop as
close as possible to their building because of safety concerns. Many clients have to carry
several large packages, which sometimes weigh up to SO lbs.
Mr. Strong asked what the planned hours would be. Mr. Vickman replied the pantry
would never have hours beyond St. Vincent de Paul's hours, which are Monday until 8
pm, weekdays 9 am - 4 pm, and Saturday 9 am - 1 pm.
Mr. Norton questioned why the North Main (Route 4) bus could not turn directly from
Packer Avenue onto Jackson Street. Mr. Strong replied that there are safety concerns with
that turning movement. He added that Route 4, by going down Wisconsin Street, now
can serve the elderly apartment complex on Packer Avenue and North High School
students.
Mr. Norton suggested going in on an on-call basis. David Vickman said that while we
presently do route deviations for Greyhound and Piggly Wiggly, this presents operational
and communication problems. We try to stay away from on-call route deviations, if
possible.
Mrs. Lewis said there could be a mid-block stop on Wisconsin Street, which would be on
the back side of the store. Steve Vickman noted there is no rear entrance to the building.
Mr. Norton was not opposed to making a route deviation on every run.
Mrs. Lowe suggested driving up the south side of store and picking up passengers there.
Mr. Strong said it could be a possibility.
Another gentleman from St. Vincent de Paul suggested the bus come in on the north side
of the building, pull in front of building and exit out the southern driveway onto
Wisconsin Street or Jackson Street. Mr. Strong said he would have his operational
supervisor drive this proposal to see how much time would be involved and report back
to the Board with an update.
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ITEM #2 was heard.
2. DISCUSSION OF NEENAH ROUTE 10.
Mr. Norton would like to see the Neenah Route go to Parkview Health Center offices.
He questioned why we have to use US Highway 41, and why not County Trunk A. Mrs.
Lewis suggested going up State Highway 76 instead of US Highway 41. She noted that
County Trunk A gets icy at times, which Mr. David Vickman confirmed.
Mr. Norton said he would also like to see time points, which are not staggered. Mr.
Strong said that Mr. Monday had emailed him about how this bus on Saturdays spends a
lot of time pulling over to wait so as to not to run ahead of schedule.
Mr. Strong said previously there was talk about using the Fox River Mall as a turn-
around point. He said if many riders are going to the mall, it would make sense to
consider that. In the context of the schedule, he said they had met with Valley Transit
System, and there was a suggestion about switching to an express service outside of the
city limits. By providing more service within the city limits, and having fewer stops
outside the city limits, this would allow us to have a shorter time schedule. Mr. David
Vickman said in a perfect world we would have a local route for the city and an express
route. They both have different needs and different passages and we can't meet both of
them with a single purpose.
Mr. Norton felt it was our obligation to get people to the mall, Kohl's and the Neenah
Mall. However, he thought that a little more service to the Park View area was
necessary. He suggested that some stops at Lakeside Packaging could be eliminated, and
perhaps stops added at the Coughlin building.
Mr. Bob Poeschl, 912 Bay Shore Drive, Client Advocate at ARC, said he had spoken
with the administrator from Park View Health Center and she is very open to the idea of
bus service. She said that previously, when bus service was provided to Park View,
more relatives came out to visit patients than presently. From his perspective, this kind of
service can enhance the quality of life.
Mrs. Lewis said unfortunately when we had it, not enough people used it to make it
worthwhile. There were other considerations on other routes so that was the reason the
service was dropped. Mr. Poeschl said that there may be partnerships that could make it
more feasible to extend service to Park View.
Mrs. Lewis said Mr. Strong should take these suggestions into consideration when he
meets with Valley Transit next week.
3. EVENING AND SATURDAY SERVICE.
Mr. Strong gave an update on the system's current evaluation of extending transit service
into the evenings. Currently, staff are examining extending evening service on some of
the routes and shortening Saturday morning service by a couple of hours. This would
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support a couple of goals: 1) to make service more efficient from a ridership perspective
and 2) to improve work schedules for drivers.
Mr. Norton asked if the proposed routes would come before the Board. Mr. Strong
replied, "Yes." He noted that we are not suggesting changing any routes at this time, but
are rather focusing on when service would start and stop.
4. REVIEW OF ADA CERTIFIDATION PROCESS.
Mr. David Vickman described Oshkosh Transit System's ADA certification process to
the Board. He noted that, in 2008, OTS approved 880 applications and denied
approximately 90 applications.
Mr. Poeschl said from working with ADA clients, he feels this process is good.
Mrs. Lowe asked if any thought had been given to giving the applicant a temporary card
while the paperwork is being processed. Mr. Vickman replied that we follow ADA
guidelines, which gives us 21 days to process the application.
Mr. Poeschl asked how many denials have been received. Mr. Vickman replied he had
received one since he started in July 2008.
5. DISCUSSION OF CHARTER REGULATIONS (E.G. EAA SHUTTLE)
Mr. Strong gave board members an overview of recent Federal Transit Administration
regulations regarding charter service, and the effects these regulations have on OTS's
current EAA shuttle service operations. The regulations forbid the transit agency from
charging a "premium fare"; therefore, OTS believes that the most we could charge would
be $2.00 for a round trip, which would be comparable to our basic fare, and $25.00 for an
EAA pass. To help curb costs he said we would have to cut service frequency. Another
alternative would be to discontinue the shuttle service.
Mrs. Lewis said she would hate to see us lose the income. Mr. Strong said we've gotten
great feedback in the past on our service. From our perspective, it is a win-win situation
for a lot of people. However, the regulations are pretty clear.
Mr. Strong said they will analyze this over the next couple of weeks and report back to
the Board.
There be no other business to come before the Transit Advisory Board and upon duly
being made and seconded (Lewis, Lowe), the meeting adjourned at 5:45 p. m.