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CITY OF OSHKOSH, WISCONSIN
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REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday, April 22, 2008 at 6:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City
Hall.
Mayor Tower presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Paul Esslinger, Bryan Bain, Tony Palmeri, Burk Tower, Dennis
McHugh and Mayor Frank Tower
EXCUSED: Council Member Jessica King
ALSO PRESENT: John Fitzpatrick, Acting City Manager, Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk, Lynn
Lorenson, City Attorney and David Patek, Director of Public Works
Council Member Esslinger read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Aubrey Abrahamson and Nate Fitzhenry from Webster
Stanley Elementary School.
A proclamation was presented by Mayor Tower declaring May 10, 2008 as "Oshkosh Letter
Carriers Food Drive Day" in the City of Oshkosh.
A proclamation was presented by Mayor Tower declaring May 1, 2008 as "A Day of Prayer" in
the City of Oshkosh.
Consent Agenda
The minutes of the April 8 th and April 15 2008 meetings were approved as presented.
The Report of the Acting City Manager was read.
The bills were presented in the amount of $10,599,475.81.
The report of the City Clerk was read.
Resolution 08 -125 Grant Conditional Use Permit; Approve Planned Development/ South Main
Street, West 8th Avenue, Nebraska Street and West 9th Avenue
Council Member McHugh questioned if there were parking spaces to accommodate the number
of dwellings. He stated concerns about parking in the alley and blocking emergency vehicles.
He questioned the color of the units and if the fence issue were settled. He questioned the City
assuming the cost to place all utilities underground verse just City utilities, such as water and
sewer.
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Proceedings of the Common Council — April 22, 2008
Council Member Palmeri questioned why the Miles Kimball building would succeed with
retail /commercial when the 100 Block Development had trouble getting retail. He questioned
what type of retail would be promoted for that location.
Mr. Brian Burns, Burns Development, stated Phase One had 32 townhouses; each dwelling
would have a garage and a parking space. He stated in Phase Two, there were 18 units that
had a parking space with no garage. He stated the units in Phase Two were smaller units 9
studios and 9 one bedroom. He stated there would be no parking in the alley due to blocking of
driveways and emergency vehicles generally use the street, not alleys. He stated the color of
the units would be cream brick with a darker brown trim. He stated the fencing concerns would
come up when the landscape was approved. He stated burying utilities was part of the
developers' agreement. He explained the Miles Kimball area had better parking and was on a
major thorough fair for easy access of future business. He stated there was a bank and food
service interested in locating at his site. He explained marketing would be done at a later time
due to the project was a year out for development. He stated pricing for retail would be priced to
attract and affordability due to it would not stand on its own.
Mr. Kinney, Director of Community Development, stated the City was working with WPS for
underground ing utilities. He explained the City covered the cost for underground utilities in the
Marion Road and Pearl Avenue development.
Resolution 08 -126 Accept Easements / 3300 Block, County Road A
Resolution 08 -127 Approve Scope of Services Amendment No. 2 / Modifications and
Demolition to the Water Filtration Plant ($464,100)
Grady Bullington, 1039 Algoma Boulevard, spoke on behalf of Terry Laib, 500 Main Street; he
stated various concerns regarding the demolition of the light tower. He explained itwas a one of
a kind landmark and the only light tower on the western shore of Lake Winnebago. He
questioned the cost and benefits of demolition compared to the cost for preservation of the
landmark.
Dick O'Day, 715 Hazel Street, stated to take the beacon off the lake would be terrible, when
boating at night, the beacon was the only way to find your way back.
Carol Schanke, 1267 Merritt Avenue, stated the water tower was an outstanding landmark
visible from the northeast and southeast side. She urged Council to delay the vote to destroy it.
Sue Jones, 1339 Winnebago Avenue, stated her support to keep the water tower and delay the
demolition.
Resolution 08 -128 Approve Declaration of Intent to Reimburse Expenditures for Safe Drinking
Water Loan Program
Resolution 08 -129 Approve Issuance and Sale of Water Revenue Bond Anticipation Notes,
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Series 2008C
Resolution 08 -130 Authorize Borrowing / State Trust Fund / Convention Center
Proceedings of the Common Council — April 22, 2008
Dick O'Day, 715 Hazel Street, questioned who was paying for the renovation of the Convention
Center. He questioned why it was not stated in the resolution that the bond rating had been
lowered.
Mayor Tower explained the part of the resolution being discussed was the bond rating, and
everything else pertaining to the Convention Center had been approved. He stated the rate had
gone from 5% to less than that.
Resolution 08 -131 Approve Agreements with Wisconsin Department of Transportation:
A) North Main Street (New York Avenue to Murdock Avenue) ($161,600)
B) West New York Avenue (Jackson Street to Algoma Boulevard)
($189,000)
Resolution 08 -132 Approve Lease Agreement on the North Main Street / 400 Block Parking
Lot
Resolution 08 -133 Approve Lifeguard Agreement / Oshkosh Area School District
Resolution 08 -134 Approve Agreement for Concession Operations at the Reetz Softball
Complex (Menominee Park) The Boy's and Girl's Club of Oshkosh,
Incorporated, Alumni Association
Resolution 08 -135 Approve Initial Resolution — Concrete Driveway Approach / Ruschfield
Drive
Resolution 08 -136 Disallow Claim / Dempsey, Williamson, Kelly and Hertel
Resolution 08 -137 Disallow Claim / Mackie
Resolution 08 -138 Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / Brookside North
Apartments, LLP
Ken Bender, 806 Oak Street, stated his views about the disallowance of claims.
Resolution 08 -139 Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment/ Brookside of Oshkosh,
LLC
Resolution 08 -140 Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / Country Park LLC
Apartments
Resolution 08 -141 Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / Havenwood Heights,
LLC
Resolution 08 -142 Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / Havenwood Lake,
LLC
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Resolution 08 -143
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / Maple Court
Apartments, LLC
Proceedings of the
Common Council — April 22, 2008
Resolution 08 -144
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / Midwest Real Estate
Development Company
Resolution 08 -145
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / CRL, LLC
Resolution 08 -146
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / James H.
Lang
Properties, Incorporated
Resolution08 -147
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / James H.
Lang
Properties, Incorporated
Resolution 08 -148
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / James H.
Lang
Properties, Incorporated
Resolution 08 -149
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / James H.
Lang
Properties, Incorporated
Resolution 08 -150
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / Walgreen Co.
Resolution 08 -151
Disallowance of Claim for Excessive Assessment / Villa St. Theresa,
Incorporated
Resolution 08 -152
Approve Miscellaneous Licenses
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING RESOLUTIONS 08 -127 AND
08 -129 (Esslinger; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Esslinger, Bain, Palmeri, Tower, McHugh, Mayor Tower
Resolution 08 -127 Approve Scope of Services Amendment No. 2 / Modifications and
Demolition to the Water Filtration Plant ($464,100)
MOTION: ADOPT (Bain; second, Esslinger)
MOTION: TABLE (Palmeri; second, Esslinger)
LOST: Ayes (2) Palmeri, McHugh;
Noes (4) Esslinger, Bain, Tower, Mayor Tower
MOTION: DIVIDE PART A BEING TABLE 2 -1 AND PART B BEING TABLE 2 -2
(Bain; second, Esslinger)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Esslinger, Bain, Tower, McHugh, Mayor Tower;
Noes (1) Palmeri
MOTION: ADOPT 08 -127 -A Table 2 -1 (Esslinger; second, Tower)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Esslinger, Bain, Tower, McHugh, Mayor Tower
Noes (1) Palmeri
MOTION: ADOPT 08 -127 -B Table 2 -2 (Esslinger; second, Bain)
LOST: Noes (6) Esslinger, Bain, Palmeri, Tower, McHugh, Mayor Tower
Proceedings of the Common Council — April 22, 2008
Council Member Esslinger questioned what was decided at the Landmark Commission Meeting
and what the benefits were to demolishing the water tower. He questioned the cost to save the
building compared to the cost to demolition it. He questioned if all information regarding
demolition had been public knowledge.
Council Member Palmeri stated advocates for historical buildings should speak to Council and
staff regarding preservation of the tower. He stated he would like to table the resolution and get
more information including the report provided by Strass- Maguire and Associates mentioned in
table 2 -1.
Council Member Tower stated he was opposed to tabling the resolution due to the fact there
needed to be more discussion and a plan in place.
Deputy Mayor Bain stated table 2 -1 was for services rendered in the amount of $136,700 and
table 2 -2 was for services during construction for $327,400. He suggested to divide the
resolution into two parts.
Mayor Tower stated information was discussed at prior meetings. He questioned what the time
factor was, if the resolution was tabled. He requested that all the information presented at the
Landmarks Commission and other groups be made available to Council.
Mr. Patek stated there were two Landmark Commission meetings; one was February 27 and the
other March 12 He explained a year ago there was a workshop meeting and explanation had
been given that saving the building would be a cost to the City. He explained the clear wells
were in violation of DNR codes, therefore, new ones were needed; additional cost of $550,000
just to save tower. He stated the high lifts were in violation of DNR codes, which would need
modification; low lifts were in violation and would need to be at a higher elevation, which would
increase cost of rates significantly due to the fact of a new building and hazardous materials
were found in the tower and would need to be cleaned up. He stated in addition to the $550,000
to saving the tower would possibly cost another million and would continue to always have a
cost. He stated it would not be in the best interest for utility rate payers to keep as a historical
building. He explained he had been contacted by the Otter Street Fishing Club and as long as
the new building had a light on it they were satisfied. He stated the dollar amount in table 2 -2
would increase if the tower was saved.
Mr. Brand, Superintendent of Utilities stated there was a 60 day window from the time the bids
were submitted to the time bids were accepted and the bid started April 2 "
Ms. Lorenson stated tabling the resolution would require a motion with a majority vote.
Deputy Mayor Bain urged the item be laid over for further research on the water tower and
brought back at a later date for a vote.
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Council Member Esslinger questioned what was involved with 08 -127 and 08 -129. He
questioned if staff was presumptuous or were there certain steps that had to happen. He stated
he would like to see more proposals.
Proceedings of the Common Council — April 22, 2008
Council Member Palmeri questioned if there was a promise made to the citizens that the water
tower would not be destroyed. He read letters from concerned individuals regarding the
demolition of the tower. He stated in 1978 the tower should have been put on the National
Register for historical places, however, no one knows why it was not. He stated one letter
requested to explore two realistic options and neither was demolition. He suggested looking into
federal and state financial grants to help with preservation of the tower.
Council Member Tower stated all Council Members were aware of the demolition of the tower
and present when the Otter Street Fishing Club spoke on the concerns of the light. He stated it
had been known for 3 -4 months and was talked about a year ago. He stated at the Landmarks
Commission meeting it was stated the water tower used to have functions for the City and had
lost all functionality. He stated the tower was not on the States Register as a historical place.
He stated the possibility to save some brick for sustainability was discussed. He explained that
staff was looking out for the best interest for rate payers and the cost would continue to grow
with the length of time it was on hold. He requested to have a workshop with public comment.
Joel Pittelman, Bond Council, stated costs would include: writing official statement; all bidding
and all legal work, $36,000 for cost issuance, however, some of that cost may be reused. The
sold bonds can not be resold and would be a cost to Springsted, which would leave hesitation
with future bonds.
Mr. Fitzpatrick questioned the impact of tabling 08 -127 -B had on the bonds.
Mrs. Steeno, Director of Finance stated due to the project not going forward, her
recommendation would be not to approve the bonds. She explained there would be cost
involved and bidders would be tentative in the future.
Mr. Patek explained he was not here in the mid 90's, however, the requirements then required to
keep pumping stations. He stated keeping the pumping stations then would have meant
keeping the tower. He stated requirements had changed in 2007.
Resolution 08 -129 Approve Issuance and Sale of Water Revenue Bond Anticipation Notes,
Series 2008C
MOTION: ADOPT (Bain; second, Esslinger)
LOST: Noes (6) Esslinger, Bain, Palmeri, Tower, McHugh, Mayor Tower
Action Taken on Ordinances and Resolutions
Ordinance 08 -153 Approve Zone Change / South Main Street, West 8 Avenue,
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Nebraska Street & West 9 1h Avenue
MOTION: ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Bain)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Esslinger, Bain, Palmeri, Tower, Mayor Tower
Noes (1) McHugh
Council Member McHugh stated he would not support the zone change, due to the fact it was
not uniform and it should be residential.
Proceedings of the Common Council — April 22, 2008
Council Member Palmeri stated his support for the zone change due to the developer successful
projects in the City. He stated the new City Manager's top priority should be how to make
downtown boom.
Deputy Mayor Bain stated the ordinance was appropriate, and Mr. Burns had proven success
with the Division Street development.
Ordinance 08 -154 Approve Traffic Regulations
FIRST READING; LAYOVER UNDER THE RULES
Ordinance 08 -155 Prohibit Feeding of Deer
FIRST READING; LAYOVER UNDER THE RULES
Citizen Statements
Ken Bender, 806 Oak Street, stated he disagreed with the disallowance of claim for the snow
removal at the last meeting and requested Council to check on the Police Department's lack of
driving skills.
Council Member announcements, Statements and Discussion
Deputy Mayor Bain announced the Fifth Tuesday Forum would be April 29 at 6:00 p.m. at the
Oshkosh Seniors Center in the Willow North Room.
Mayor Tower stated the Near East Neighborhood workshop would follow the meeting; the next
Council Meeting was May 13 with the Leach Amphitheater workshop scheduled following and
he reminded Council on the 13 at 3:30 p.m. Council would review City Manager applications.
He stated he would like to schedule a water tower workshop for May 27
City Manager Announcements, Statements and Discussion
Mr. Fitzpatrick stated notification was given on April 8 1h of a Municipal Flood Control Grant for
$200,000 from the WI -DNR. He also thanked everyone for their assistance during the filming of
"Public Enemies ".
MOTION: ADJORN (Esslinger; second, McHugh)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 7:56 p.m.
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PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK