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PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMON COUNCIL
CITY OF OSHKOSH, WISCONSIN
REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday September 25, 2007 at 6:00 p.m. In the Council
Chambers, City Hall.
Mayor Tower presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Paul Esslinger, Burk Tower, Jessica King, Tony Palmeri, Dennis
McHugh, Bryan Bain and Frank Tower
ALSO PRESENT: Richard Wollangk, City Manager, Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk, Warren Kraft,
City Attorney and David Patek, Director of Public Works
Council Member Esslinger read the invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Tony Halmauer and Brennen Schultz from Lourdes High
School; and, Eric Schwartz from S1. John Neumann Middle School.
Public Hearings
The Mayor ordered the following Public Hearings:
Ordinance 07-263 Approve Zone Change - North Koeller Street, South of 1825 Taft Avenue
& North of 450-480 North Koeller Street
There were no appearances and the Public Hearing was CLOSED.
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Ordinance 07-264 Approve Zone Change - 350 North Koeller Street, 310-316 North Koeller
Street & Portion of 1807 Southland Street
There were no appearances and the Public Hearing was CLOSED.
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Consent Agenda
The minutes of the September 11,2007 meeting were approved as presented.
The Report of the City Manager was read.
The bills were presented in the amount of $3,718,049.95.
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Proceedings of the Common Council- September 25, 2007
The Report of the City Clerk was read.
Resolution 07-265 Grant Conditional Use Permit; Approve Planned Development I The
Waterfront Project
Tim Rikkers, representative of Akcess Acquisition Group, and Jay Supple, 4716 Bay View
Lane, thanked the Council for consideration of their request and noted that they were available
to answer questions.
Council Member Palmeri questioned the proposed occupancy for the development. He
questioned the consequences of denying the resolution given that the term sheet was already
approved. He questioned changes introduced since acceptance of the term sheet. He
questioned if market research had been conducted. He questioned the guaranteed tax
payment. He posed several scenarios of hypothetical questions related to property evaluation
and environmental remediation. He questioned how the riverwalk related to the project. He
stated his appreciation to Mr. Rikkers and Mr. Supple for their interest in the project. He
expressed concerns with the item being listed on the consent agenda and he explained that
the real vote on the issue had been in July when the term sheet was approved. He expressed
a concern with tenants for the new office space coming from within the City, which would create
an issue for existing buildings. He questioned financial and quality of life risks. He explained
his opposition to the resolution.
Council Member McHugh questioned the status of the park. He questioned the financial risks
and protection provided for the taxpayer. He questioned if it was appropriate to require the
developer to deposit monies in an escrow account to offset possible risks.
Council Member Tower questioned the total concept. He stated his support for the project and
explained that the City had learned lessons from past endeavors. He explained that risks were
always a reality. He explained that the parking standards were met and exceeded in terms of
the total number of spaces available.
Council Member King questioned parking issues. She stated her support for the project and
expressed reservations related to parking density. She questioned if minimum parking
requirements were adequate.
Council Member Esslinger expressed concerns with TIF payments. He questioned issues
related to a possible reduction in the value of the property. He questioned if the development
agreement provided for a minimum real estate tax payment. He questioned the restaurant
theme. He explained that he supported the resolution with reservations because he had little
confidence in monetary guarantees. He expressed concerns with the risk of a lawsuit.
Council Member Bain questioned the office building LEED certification. He stated his support
for the resolution. He explained that Mr. Rikkers and Mr. Supple had been upfront and
forthcoming when the term sheet was approved.
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Mayor Tower stated his support for the resolution and expressed his appreciation for the
additional information that was provided.
Proceedings of the Common Council - September 25, 2007
Mr. Rikkers stated that there was a signed letter of intent for a portion of the ground floor and
he explained that they were involved in negotiations for an additional fifty percent of the
building. He explained the original outline of the development. He explained that the park
location was shifted slightly to the west. He explained that the retail component and the entire
area would be harmonious. He explained that for office buildings the industry standard was
four parking spaces per thousand. He explained that the development team hoped to achieve
LEED certification for the Class "A" office building and they intended to build it as
environmentally friendly as possible. He explained the various levels of LEED certification.
Stan Ramaker, representative from Design II Architecture, explained that they try to build as
green friendly as possible, but there were no specifics for LEED certification for the
hotel/restaurant.
Mr. Supple explained that the hotel brand and the water location would be beneficial to
attracting business and he explained that the development would promote income growth
throughout the city. He explained that a full feasibility study had been conducted. He
explained the architectural continuity of the proposed buildings and surrounding area. He
explained that they were considering a European style cafe, which was appropriate for the
urban setting.
Mr. Kinney, Director of Community Development, explained that it was beneficial to have
Akcess Acquisition Group, a master developer, to achieve a cohesive design. He explained
that the Waterfront Project did not have the same financial risks as the 100 Block because the
City was not providing a developer's assistance grant. He explained that a combination of all
the future development of the Phase II area was intended to cover the City's debt service on
the public improvements. He explained that there was a guaranteed tax payment in the
developer's agreement and he explained the different circumstances between the 100 Block
and the Waterfront Project. He explained that the Assessor was responsible for establishing
property assessments. He explained that the City had worked successfully with the
Department of Natural Resources (DNR) on related issues. He explained that the river walk
and the land side development enhanced each project.
Mr. Kraft explained that denial of the resolution could be interpreted as a breach of
contract.
Resolution 07-266 Award Bid / Wastewater Treatment Plant Security Improvements / Public
Works Contract No. 07-02 A ($109,895.00) & B ($116,950.00)
Resolution 07-267 Amend Final Resolution - Cold Mix Asphalt Overlay /Idaho Street
Resolution 07-268 Disallow Claim / Freund
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Resolution 07-269 Disallow Claim / Church
Resolution 07-270 Disallow Claim / Coffin
Ken Bender, 806 Oak Street, expressed concerns related to safety issues resulting from tree
branches obstructing signs.
Proceedings of the Common Council - September 25, 2007
Council Member Bain questioned the city's responsibility.
Mr. Wollangk explained that branches were trimmed when the city was made aware of an
Issue.
Mr. Kraft explained the procedure related to private property.
Resolution 07-271 Disallow Claim / Progressive Insurance
Resolution 07-272 Miscellaneous Licenses
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING RESOLUTION 07-265
(Esslinger; second, Palmeri)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Esslinger, Tower, King, Palmeri, McHugh, Bain, Mayor Tower
Resolution 07-265 Grant Conditional Use Permit; Approve Planned Development / The
Waterfront Project
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Bain)
Ayes (6) Esslinger, Tower, King, McHugh, Bain, Mayor Tower;
Noes (1) Palmeri
Action Taken on Ordinances and Resolutions
Ordinance 07-273 Amend Chapter 30 Zoning Ordinance / Off-Street Parking & Loading
Facilities
MOTION: ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Bain)
MOTION: REFER BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION (King; second,
McHugh)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Esslinger, Tower, King, Palmeri, McHugh, Bain, Mayor Tower
Carl Sosnoski, 2475 Knapp Street Road, expressed concerns with the current ordinance and
the proposed amendment. He urged Council to further review the ordinance to allow
provisions for existing properties. He stated he was not aware that the amendments were
previously discussed at the Plan Commission meeting of August 7,2007.
Council Member McHugh explained that if existing businesses wanted to upgrade their parking
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lots they could be required to expend additional monies for the installation of storm sewers. He
stated support for existing businesses to be covered under a grandfather clause. He stated
his support for further review of the item.
Council Member King stated her support for further review of the ordinance. She explained
that it was necessary to receive input from other business owners who could be impacted by
the ordinance.
Proceedings of the Common Council - September 25, 2007
Council Member Esslinger questioned the reason for further review. He explained that the
Plan Commission had notified other entities of the amendments and he stated his opposition
to the ordinance.
Council Member Tower explained that the Plan Commission had unanimously approved the
item and he questioned the benefit of further review.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if Mr. Sosnoski received notice of the August 7,2007 Plan
Commission meeting at which the ordinance was discussed. He explained that the item should
have further review by the Plan Commission.
Mayor Tower questioned the procedure to refer the item back to the Plan Commission.
Mr. Burich, Director of Planning Services, explained the process. He explained that the
proposed amendments had been in process for several years and he explained that related
workshops had been noticed.
Mr. Kraft explained the process for the item to be referred back to the Plan Commission.
Mr. Wollangk suggested that the Chamber of Commerce could possibly forward information
to their membership to garner additional input for a future Plan Commission meeting.
Ordinance 07-274 Amend Public Nuisance Ordinance / Chapter 17
MOTION:
ADOPT (Bain; second, Esslinger)
MOTION:
CARRIED:
LAYOVER TO OCTOBER 9,2007 (Palmeri; second Esslinger)
Ayes (7) Esslinger, Tower, King, Palmeri, McHugh, Bain, Mayor Tower
Ken Bender, 806 Oak Street, expressed various concerns.
Carl Sosnoski, 2475 Knapp Street Road, expressed various concerns.
Mayor Tower explained that there was a request by staff to lay the item over to the next council
meeting.
Resolution 07-275 Approve Allocation / Project Plan Amendments:
Amendment #4 - TIF #7 Southwest Industrial Park
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Amendment #2 - TIF #9 Washburn Street
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Bain)
Ayes (7) Esslinger, Tower, King, Palmeri, McHugh, Bain, Mayor Tower
Council Member McHugh questioned the City's recourse options for failed due diligence. He
questioned the personal guarantee related to the 100 Block. He explained his skepticism
related to financial endeavors.
Proceedings of the Common Council - September 25, 2007
Mr. Kraft explained that the Park Plaza Hotel was in private hands. He explained that the
development took place over twenty years ago and the prognosticators gave their best
judgement related to the economic conditions at that time. He explained that with the 100
Block the projections were not fulfilled. He explained that the city was currently in litigation
related to the personal guarantee.
Citizen Statements
Ken Bender, 806 Oak Street, expressed various community concerns.
Larry Spanbauer, 842 Eckardt Court, thanked Mr. Wollangk for his years of service. He
suggested an option for an advisory referendum to include a full time mayor with seventeen
alderpersons elected to represent each voting district. He also suggested listing the current
form of government as the first option.
Carl Sosnoski, 2475 Knapp Street Road, explained that he had made various inquiries related
to the 100 Block issue. He explained that Mr. Kraft had responded with a memo stating that
the required information would be difficult to obtain because the City had started to obtain
properties for the 100 Block in 1985. He stated that Mr. Kraft indicated that if additional
information was required a check in the amount of $12,215.00 would need to be submitted. He
explained that City staff was actually responsible for the legal work related to the 100 Block.
He urged Council to hold city staff more accountable for their actions and he urged Council to
be cautious with financial risks.
Steve Barney, 1260 Elmwood Avenue, expressed his opinions related to LEED certification.
Council Member Statements
Council Member Esslinger explained that Mr. Wollangk's last day would be October 13th and
he questioned the October 9th timetable related to the acting city manager. He explained that
he would forward to Mr. Wollangk a list of individuals he thought would be appropriate for the
position. He announced that he and Council Member McHugh would bring forward an advisory
referendum for the October 9th agenda. He reviewed the options and asked for additional
input. He shared a correspondence that was received in opposition to the referendum. He
explained the intent of the referendum.
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Council Member Palmeri questioned what the agenda of October 9th included in respect to the
acting city manager. He stated support for listing the current form of government as the first
option on the referendum. He explained his opposition to the suggestion to include seventeen
alderpersons. He questioned if a full time mayor could be a voting member of the Council and
he questioned the Mayor's veto power.
Council Member Tower questioned the end result of the advisory referendum and suggested
a ranking of the options.
Proceedings of the Common Council - September 25, 2007
Mr. Kraft explained that without further direction a resolution would be drafted with a blank
space in place of a name. He explained that the open meeting law required Council to notice
their intent to appoint an acting city manager. He explained mayoral veto power.
Ms Ubrig explained that ranking options on the ballot would not work.
Council Member King announced that the 2007 Earth Charter Community Summit would be
held October 6th - 13th. She noted that additional information could be accessed at the UW
Oshkosh website. She reminded the community that the 5K Diversity run would take place
October 13th. She questioned if a specific time frame was established for the Near East
Neighborhood inspection.
Council Member Bain announced that the 1 th Annual Take Back The Night March was
scheduled for September 26th. He announced that the UW Oshkosh homecoming game and
parade were scheduled for October 6th and he explained the new parade route.
Council Member McHugh suggested that Council should consider a study of the downtown
one-way street system.
Mayor Tower stated that he was comfortable with the date of October 9th regarding the acting
city manager. He explained that the agenda would include a resolution and discussion would
ensue. He explained that Mr. Wollangk could give direction for an appointee. He explained
that Council Member McHugh pulled his item from council member statements. He explained
that the Near East Neighborhood inspection would occur sometime after the budget process.
He asked for workshop requests.
Whatever Else is Pertinent or for the Good of the City
Mr. Wollangk explained that the preliminary budget would be completed by October 1ih. He
questioned Council's intent for department workshops. He explained the budget time frame
and possible options. He explained that the budget workshops allowed for adjustments to be
made.
Council Member McHugh questioned the reason for department workshops.
Mayor Tower explained that the budget workshops provided information to the community.
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Discussion ensued on Council's availability. The initial budget workshops were scheduled for
October 29th & 30th starting at 4:30 p.m. both days and the final budget workshop and Capital
Improvement Program (CIP) discussion were scheduled for November 15th at 4:30 p.m.
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADJOURN (Esslinger; second, McHugh)
VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
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