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PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMON COUNCIL
CITY OF OSHKOSH, WISCONSIN
ON THE WATER
REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday July 10, 2007 at 6:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers,
City Hall.
Mayor Tower presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Burk Tower, Jessica King, Tony Palmeri, Dennis McHugh,
Bryan Bain, Paul Esslinger, and Frank Tower
ALSO PRESENT: Richard Wollangk, City Manager, Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk, Warren Kraft,
City Attorney and David Patek, Director of Public Works
Council Member Tower read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Council Member Tower.
Consent Agenda
The minutes of the June 26,2007 meeting were approved as presented.
The Report of the City Manager was read.
Council Member Bain questioned the 11 :00 p.m. end time on the request from Kornerstone
Recovery Club. He explained the standard end time was 10:00 p.m.
Council Member Tower questioned why the block party request form was not being utilized.
The bills were presented in the amount of $3,469,512.24.
The Report of the City Clerk was read.
Resolution 07-186 Amend Conditional Use Permit; Approve Revised Planned DevelopmenU
3401-3413 Logan Drive
Council Member McHugh explained he would not support the resolution because other
options, which met City codes, were available for the location of the garage. He explained
that the Council should follow existing ordinance and zoning regulations.
Resolution 07-187 Approve Amendment to Resolution 07-176 I Initial Resolution Asphalt
Paving & Utilities I Various Streets
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Resolution 07-188 Approve Change Order No. 21 Public Works Contract No. 06-05
(LaLonde Contractors, Inc., $26,082.94)
Resolution 07-189 Approve Change Order No. 11 Public Works Contract No. 06-14
(Kruczek Construction Inc., $35,039.50)
Resolution 07-190 Approve Winnebago County Recycling Surplus Revenue Ballot
Council Member Tower questioned available options for the recycling revenue surplus.
Mr. Wollangk responded.
Resolution 07-191 Authorize Jurisdictional Offers & Awards of Damages (if necessary)
Ohio Street
Council Member Tower asked for clarification regarding offers and awards of damages.
Mr. Wollangk and Mr. Patek responded.
Resolution 07-192 Approve Amended Agreement 1 Jackson Street & Murdock Avenue
Intersection (New City Share $718,750.00)
Council Member Bain questioned if the original agreement included a roundabout. He
questioned the reason for the monetary increase and the options for the intersection.
Council Member McHugh questioned the funding source. He explained that concerns related
to the intersection had existed since the Department of Transportation originally designed it.
He explained the accident data was not relevant to the design of the intersection, but due to
driver error. He questioned if the new design would be a safety improvement. He questioned
if a detention pond was related to the intersection.
Council Member Esslinger explained that the demolition of the Kentucky Fried Chicken
building would remove the parcel from the tax roll. He questioned if the State would pay for
the roundabout. He questioned if the DOT included inflation in the construction dollar
amount. He explained he did not support the roundabout.
Mr. Wollangk and Mr. Patek responded.
Council Member Palmeri questioned the possibility of challenging the DOT to pay for the
project. He questioned the accident ranking of the intersection.
Mayor Tower questioned the possibility of proceeding with the project with a traditional
intersection option to reduce the cost. He questioned if safety issues would be addressed
with the original plan, which did not include the roundabout. He questioned the construction
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timetable. He requested a response from the DOT regarding other options and the funding
of the project.
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Council Member King explained her support for the resolution. She explained that safety
issues were a priority and she explained the financial commitment of the DOT to the
community. She explained the possible relocation of the Kentucky Fried Chicken parcel
would not result in the loss of tax revenue.
Mr. Patek responded.
Council Member Tower stated his support and explained that the intersection was in need of
improvement. He explained that it was inappropriate to proceed in a sub standard manner.
Resolution 07-193 Approve Amendment No. 1 to Engineering Design Services 1 Main
Street Paving & Utility Construction ($6,550.77)
Resolution 07-194 Disallow Claim 1 Macho
Resolution 07-195 Approve Miscellaneous Licenses
City Manager Report - Request #31 Kornerstone Recovery Club Picnic
MOTION: KORNERSTONE RECOVERY CLUB PICNIC REQUEST CHANGE
11 :00 P.M. TO 10:00 P. M. (Bain; second, Mayor Tower)
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Tower, King, Palmeri, McHugh, Bain, Mayor Tower;
Noes (1) Esslinger
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING RESOLUTIONS 07-186
AND 07-192 (Palmeri; second, Bain)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Tower, King, Palmeri, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Mayor
Tower
Resolution 07-186 Amend Conditional Use Permit; Approve Revised Planned DevelopmenU
3401-3413 Logan Drive
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADOPT (Bain; second, Esslinger)
Ayes (6) Tower, King, Palmeri, Bain, Esslinger, Mayor Tower;
Noes (1) McHugh
Resolution 07-192 Approve Amended Agreement 1 Jackson Street & Murdock Avenue
Intersection (New City Share $718,750.00)
MOTION: ADOPT (Bain; second, Esslinger)
MOTION: LAYOVER UNTIL JULY 24,2007 COUNCIL MEETING (Mayor Tower;
second, Esslinger)
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CARRIED: Ayes (7) Tower, King, Palmeri, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Mayor
Tower
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Action Taken on Ordinances and Resolutions
Ordinance 07-196 Amend Smoking Ordinance
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Daniel Lynch, 310 S. Eagle Street, expressed opposition with the revision to the smoking ban.
He explained support for the proposed State wide smoke free work place legislation.
Kathleen Propp, 1936 Hazel Street, expressed concerns with the revision to the smoking ban.
She explained support for the proposed State wide smoke free work place legislation.
Ordinance 07-197 Ban Cottonwood Tree Planting
FIRST READING; LAID OVER UNDER THE RULES
Resolution 07-198 Authorize Preparation of Tax Increment Finance Plans for Convention
Center Upgrade
MOTION: ADOPT (Bain; second, Esslinger)
MOTION: FINAL PARAGRAPH TO READ NOW THEREFORE BE IT
RESOLVED BY THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
OSHKOSH THAT THE PROPER CITY OFFICIALS ARE HEREBY
AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED TO PREPARE COST
ALTERNATIVES WITH REGARD TO THE FUTURE OF THE
OSHKOSH CENTER INCLUDING: A) TAX INCREMENT
DISTRICT PLANS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
CONVENTION CENTER AS SET FORTH IN THE
ARCHITECTURAL REPORT PREPARED BY KUBALA
WASHATKO ARCHITECHTS; B) ANALYSIS OF POTENTIAL
SALE OR DONATION OF PROPERTY; C) DEMOLITION OF THE
PROPERTY; D) FUNDING FOR RENOVATIONS THRU CIP
(CAPITOL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM) BUDGET (King; second,
Mayor Tower)
WITHDRAWN
MOTION:
CARRIED:
TABLE (Tower; second, Mayor Tower)
Ayes (6) Tower, King, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Mayor Tower;
Noes (1) Palmeri
Kevin McGee, 1244 Wisconsin Street, stated he did not consider it a good use for the
property tax dollars. He explained that Tax Increment Finance Districts were implemented
at the expense of taxpayers. He explained the following options for the Convention Center;
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give it away, reinvest the generated revenue into the center, tear it town, or allow other hotels
and interested groups to invest the generated monies from higher room taxes back into the
convention center.
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David Borsuk, 1970 Cliffview Court, explained that it was time to close out the TIF and return
the monies to the local tax entities. He expressed concerns with the proposed plans and
urged the City to explore all available options.
Council Member Palmeri stated his opposition to the resolution. He explained that the public
did not support it. He compared the number of TIFS in local areas to those existing in
Oshkosh. He explained that new TIFS should not be created before the annual report
summarizing the progress in the TIF districts was received. He explained that alternative
options should be provided. He stated his opposition to the proposed amendment. He
explained that he did not want to limit the available options and questioned if an amendment
to direct staff was necessary. He questioned the urgency of the issue.
Council Member King questioned if the City was contributing to the operational costs for
maintenance of the center. She explained that the City still had debt service that was being
paid for by the hotellmotel tax. She explained her proposed amendment and stated she
thought it necessary to have a cost estimate chart for comparisons. She explained her
withdrawal for the amendment and stated that written documented memos were necessary
to achieve results. She explained it was necessary for the Council to investigate all viable
solutions.
Mr. Wollangk responded.
Council Member McHugh asked for clarification on the proposed amendment. He explained
that the Center lacked public support. He explained his opposition to the proposed
amendment because of the limitation to available options. He stated he would not support
a TIF for the Convention Center.
Mayor Tower responded.
Council Member Esslinger asked for clarification on the amendment. He explained that he
supported the concept but did not support the amendment. He explained that if the resolution
was approved the TIF district would exist for another twenty years and if it was not approved
it would expire this year. He stated that citizen input could be included in a workshop. He
explained that there was a large investment in the Convention Center and it was prudent to
explore all options.
Council Member Tower stated his opposition to the amendment because it was too specific.
He explained that an additional workshop could include all interested parties, citizen's input
and consideration for alternative financing. He questioned the timing for the TIF. He
questioned the availability of the Foundation money.
Mayor Tower questioned the timing for the creation of the TIF. He questioned the exploration
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of cost estimates. He explained a workshop could be structured to include public input. He
explained he did not support the resolution because he did not want Staff to prepare the TIF
if that was not the final direction. He explained he would support an additional workshop.
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Mr. Wollangk and Jackson Kinney, Director of Community Development, responded.
Council Member Bain questioned why information was not requested at the prior workshop.
He explained it was not a viable option to ignore the necessary capital improvements. He
explained he was not opposed to the TIF, however additional available funding could be
explored. He questioned the procedure for a future resolution.
Mr. Kraft responded.
Resolution 07-199 Amend Master Development Agreement Term Sheet for Disposition of
Marion Road 1 Pearl Avenue Redevelopment Phase II Area to Akcess
Acquisition Group LLC
MOTION:
ADOPT (Bain; second, Esslinger)
MOTION:
CARRIED:
CALL THE QUESTION (King; second, Mayor Tower)
Ayes (6) Tower, King, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Mayor Tower;
Noes (1) Palmeri
VOTE ON RESOLUTION:
CARRIED: Ayes (5) Tower, King, McHugh, Bain, Mayor Tower;
Noes (2) Palmeri, Esslinger
Ken Bender, 806 Oak Street, expressed various concerns with the plan including the
Chamber Building.
Dick O'Day, 715 Hazel Street, expressed concerns with the plan.
Lois Luebke, Harrison Street, expressed concerns with the plan.
Council Member Bain asked for clarification regarding tenant occupancy. He questioned Item
#5 in the Development Agreement. He questioned if all related projects required Council
approval. He explained that the Council was not legally bound to accept an office complex
if the term sheet was approved. He explained that it would be disingenuous to enter into the
term sheet if it wasn't realized that the office complex was a cornerstone for the development.
He explained that he may not be in full support of all aspects but it presented wonderful
opportunities. He explained that the office complex coupled with the hotel and restaurant
project was encouraging. He stated his support for the resolution and explained that it was
a benefit to the community. He thanked the Akcess Group for their work.
Tim Rickers, Akcess Acquisiton Group, and Mr. Kinney responded.
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Council Member McHugh questioned total involvement of the Council. He questioned the
responsibility of environmental issues. He explained that he was not prepared to vote on
specific plans for the development. He questioned if denial of the resolution would cause the
Akcess Group to pull out of the agreement.
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Council Member King questioned if parcel plans had been received. She questioned the
closing date for the first parcel. She asked various drafting questions related to the Council's
approval role. She explained that the only role of the Council was related to parcel plan
approval. She questioned which City entity was responsible for Item #6(p) of the
Development Agreement. She questioned the time frame and the amount due for the next
debt service payment. She explained that it was necessary to have a business component
to build the tax base. She stated her support for the resolution. She expressed her gratitude
to the Rickers and explained that the document represented a continued relationship with the
Akcess Group.
Council Member Palmeri questioned if approval of the resolution denoted approval for an
office complex. He explained that the public did not support the aspect of an office complex
on the Fox River or the demolition of the Chamber building. He questioned the relocation of
businesses, which would create more vacant office space. He questioned the feasibility of
a hotel development. He explained his opposition to the resolution and stated his non-
support was not a negative reflection upon the Akcess Acquisition Group.
Council Member Tower explained his support for the resolution. He questioned what could
be expected on site in the next year. He questioned the timing for the next status report. He
questioned results of a condominium study. He explained that it was an aggressive term
sheet and stated that Akcess was a good partner.
Mr. Kinney, Mr. Kraft, Tim Rickers and Fred Rickers, Akcess Acquisition Group, responded.
Council Member Esslinger explained he initially thought the resolution was soley related to
a re-arrangement of terms. He explained that through discussion it was noted that support
of the resolution also supported the concept of an office complex. He questioned the
decision-making role of the Council. He explained that there had been previous discussion
at the joint meeting of the Redevelopment Authority and the Council where Council Members
had stated an issue with the development of an office complex. He explained his opposition
to the resolution and thanked the Akcess Group for their diligence.
Fred and Tim Rickers responded.
The Council took a break at 9:35 p.m. and resumed at 9:45 p.m.
Citizen Statements
Ken Bender, 806 Oak Street, expressed concerns related to Snell Road improvements,
roundabouts, and city traffic.
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Steve Everding, 1760 Alexandra Court, expressed concerns related to fire pits/bowls.
Council Member King questioned what prompted the issue.
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Council Member Palmeri questioned current burning regulations and if there had been
complaints on the issue.
Mr. Wollangk responded.
Dick O'Day, 715 Hazel Street, questioned the City's financial investment in the waterfront. He
expressed various concerns related to the Water Treatment Plant and the proposed
riverwalk.
Lois Luebke, Harrison Street, expressed various community concerns.
Steve Barney, 1260 Elmwood Avenue, commented on sustainable communities and the US
Mayor's Climate Agreement.
Council Member Statements
Council Member Tower commented on the positive experience he had at Pollock Community
Water Park. He expressed concerns with a negative experience that he had encountered at
Little Oshkosh in Menominee Park. He thanked the private sector for their contributions to
both entities.
Council Member Palmeri explained that Best Buy had an interest in locating in Oshkosh. He
explained that a city in Montana required "big box" stores to submit plans for re-use of the
structure upon their departure. He asked Council Members to contact him if they were
interested in initiating a similar ordinance. He explained that Green Bay had a program
entitled "Sustainable Green Bay" and it was a publiclprivate partnership to encourage energy
efficiency. He encouraged Oshkosh to become a sustainable city.
Council Member Bain expressed concerns with the length of the meetings noting that the
context of the meetings was critically important. He suggested various alternatives including
more frequent meetings, separation of business meetings and workshops or re-structuring
the meetings andlor workshops. He stated that it was important not to limit discussion. He
expressed concerns with parliamentary procedure. He explained that the current procedure
was not in the best interest of the City. He stated it was important to receive workshop
information in advance.
Council Member King questioned if the new format added to the length of the meetings. She
explained possible changes to the consent agenda. She suggested speaker time limits or
more aggression related to parliamentary procedure. She suggested holding workshops prior
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to the Council meeting. She stated support for the water utility workshop to be presented in
memo form. She questioned if it was possible to receive input from the current ownerlreal
estate broker of the hotel prior to the related workshop.
Mr. Wollangk and Mr. Kraft responded.
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Mayor Tower explained that he did not favor limiting discussion. He questioned if format
change would affect the length of the meetings. He explained he would support time limits
on general discussion if it was a decision by the Council. He explained that Robert's Rules
of Orders could be changed. He expressed concerns with more frequent meetings. He
explained he would entertain the possibility of scheduling workshops for alternate Tuesdays.
He encouraged the Council to research questions of Staff prior to the meeting. He explained
that the Council could re-structure the consent agenda to the previous format. He questioned
if Council packets could be received a day earlier. He explained his support for the water
utility workshop scheduled for the next meeting. He explained the information required and
the structure for the upcoming Convention Center workshop.
Mr. Wollangk responded.
Council Member McHugh expressed concerns with time frame in which Council received their
packet prior to Council meetings. He explained that for items that would not to be acted on
the information could be received in memo form.
Council Member Tower expressed concerns with more frequent meetings. He explained
possible conflicts and stated he would consider procedural changes. He explained it would
be helpful to have workshop information in advance. He explained support for the water
utility workshop.
Council Member Esslinger explained that the lengthier meetings were due to the context of
recent issues and that it was not the norm. He explained that scheduling workshops prior to
the Council meeting could limit important discussion. He explained that Council Members
should be mindful of the time requirements. He explained that he was sensitive to the
extended hours, however he supported the current format. He questioned if the water utility
workshop could be presented in the form of a memo.
Mr. Wollangk responded.
Whatever Else is Pertinent or for the Good of the City
Mr. Wollangk explained that the Library Board was meeting July 11th to discuss their strategic
plan. He announced that "The Tusks" exhibit recently opened at the Museum. He explained
that "Harry Potter's Oshkosh Main Street Magic" would take place July 19th - 21 st and he
announced that the Mayor would be participating in the extravaganza as the Minister of
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Magic. He announced the upcoming EAA event.
MOTION: ADJOURN (Bain second, McHugh)
CARRIED: VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 10:55 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
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