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Nicole R.
From: Patrick and Allyson Hildebrand [pjhildeb@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 20078:31 AM
To: Krahn, Nicole R.
Subject: Re: Extension Request
Thank you for the extensions! This way I should be able to get all of the things up to code/date
without any problems.
Thanks again!
P.J. Hildebrand
pjhildeb@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: "Krahn, Nicole R." <nkrahn@ci.oshkosh.wi.us>
To: PJ Hildebrand <pjhildeb@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16,20077:28:27 AM
Subject: RE: Extension Request (842 W. 11th)
Patrick,
Our office has reviewed the request for extensions for
granted.
he following extensions have been
Item #3 of the Correction Notice- ''The exterior of every structure shall be maintained by the owner in good
repair. All exterior surfaces thereof be kept painted or covered with exterior siding for purposes of preservation
and appearance. The siding has deteriorated and requires replacement. All window trim is also required to be
maintained. The garage door is also required to be replaced and/or properly repaired."
Window replacement, trim wrapped, garage door repaired and/or replaced- Extension granted till October
1,2007
Porch Siding- Extension granted till October 1, 2007
House Sided- Extension granted till October 1, 2008
Item #4 of the Correction Notice- "No building or structure or any part thereof shall be moved, built, enlarged,
altered, or demolished within the City unless a permit is obtained. There is no permit on record for the new front
or side steps at this address. A landing is also required to be installed at the top of the stairways that is at least
3'x3'. The landing requires a minimum of 48" of frost protection. The stairway requires code complaint handrails
and guardrails."
Code compliant exits- Extension granted till August 15, 2007.
Please note that if the violations are not corrected by the dates listed above citations may be issued. If you have
any questions please feel free to contact me.
Nicole Krahn
Building Systems Inspector
City of Oshkosh Inspection Division
(920) 236-5036
nkrah n@cLoshkosh.wi.us
5/16/2007
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-----Original Message-----
From: PJ Hildebrand [mailto:pLallyson@ntd.net]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:04 AM
To: nkrahn@ci.oshkosh.wi.us
Subject: Extension Request (842 W. 11th)
Nicole,
Attached is a extension request letter, which includes a rough timetable as to
when the work can and will be completed. I wasn't sure if I should mail it in or
if an e-mail is acceptable, so let me know if I need to mail it. Also, upon
looking it over, if there is something I need to change, please let me know.
Thanks for your help.
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Extension Request
May 10, 2007
From: Patrick J. Hildebrand
Subject: 842 W. 11th Ave.
To: City of Oshkosh Inspection Division
I received a Correction Notice in February for my rental property at 842 W. 11 th Ave. in Oshkosh. There were
four separate items listed in the notice. The first two items (MUN-17-36B's) have been resolved. However,
due to various reasons the other two items have not been resolved.
Item #3, MUN l7-36A indicates that my siding needs replacement, all my widow trim needs to be maintained,
and the garage door needs to be replaced and/or repaired.
In regards to item #3, I fully agree that the windows need to be painted or wrapped. I was planning on
installing new windows and having the exterior window trim wrapped or painted. At this time I am waiting for
estimates to have the widows and trim work done. I am planning on having this work completed by the end of
the summer or at worse case before the winter. It just depends on when my contractors can get at it.
As for the siding on the house, there is no way I can afford to have the siding replaced this year. I was planning
on having the house resided sometime in the next couple of years. I have pictures from when I bought the
house 16 years ago, and to be quite honest, it doesn't look much different than it did then. The most
deteriorated area is on the front porch, which has looked like that since I bought the house. With that said, I
will repair the area around the porch this summer, and hopefully have the funds available next year to side the
whole house.
l[tem #4, MUN 7-8 indicates that the steps which I had repaired by a former tenant are not to code, and need to
be redone and brought up to code.
As for item #4, I will admit that I had the old steps repaired by a former tenant of mine in exchange for rent.
He is a carpenter, and ultimately ended up replacing most of the steps instead of repairing the old ones. I did
not obtain a permit do to the fact that we were planning on repairing only, and no structural changes were being
made. Apparently if the steps are redone, there needs to be a landing of at least 3' X 3'. Also, it states that I
need to bury post in the ground 48", and have compliant hand rails and guard rails. I have no problem bring the
steps up to "code", however, both of the steps are on either concrete or asphalt. I am wondering why ifthey are
on solid surfaces, and being attached to the house do they need to have post drilled threw concrete of asphalt?
Again, do to money and time restraints, I will not be able to get this done in the immediate future. I do however
plan to get them up to "code" in a timely manner. Again, it may be the end of summer or fall.
In closing, I am hoping that you will not have any problems in issuing me extensions on these items. I want to
:assure you that these items will be taken care .of as time and money permit. It is not that I don't want to have
my rentals all looking brand new and being updated, but it takes a lot of money to do these things, and the rental
market has been a bit tough for the past 5+ years. My expenses such as taxes and utilities keep going up and up,
and rental income hasn't changed!
Please let me know your decisions on these matters, and get back to me with an answer. If possible, could you
make a priority list on these items so I know which items should be completed first.
Thank you in advance for your help with these matters!
Patrick J. Hildebrand
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Krahn, Nicole R.
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Patrick,
This e-mail is in response to your ,questions regarding the correction
notice dated 4/3/07. If you have questions after reading this e-mail
you're more than welcome to come in during office hours which are Monday
thru Friday 7:30-8:30am or 12:30-1:30pm or call me to discuss the
violations.
Per your response I'm assuming that the
be removed from the property promptly.
noted as corrected once you call for an
confirm compliance.
junk and/or debris is going to
Therefore this violation will be
inspection of the property to
It is also my understanding that you have questions regarding the steps
and siding. The City of Oshkosh Municipal Code requires a permit for
any construction related activity including the repair/replacement of
steps and installation of siding. Unfortunately, it would appear that
the tenant/contractor that you had repair the steps was not aware of the
code requirements that would apply to the repairs. When the steps are
rebuilt and/or replaced they need to meet current code requirements such
as the 3'x3' landing and 48" of frost protection. The landing is to be
provided at the top of the stairway (see the pictures attached to this
e-mail) and the frost protection means that the landing requires
footings with a depth of 48" below grade. In addition to these
requirements the handrails/guardrails are required to be compliant which
means that the Old/existing handrails may not be able to be used since
the steps were rebuilt. In addition the rear jump platform over the
porch is non-compliant due to the deck that was installed on the roof.
This roof was not designed for floor loading from occupants at the time
the roof was constructed. The City of Oshkosh does not want
tenants/occupant~ using this area as a deck unless the roof was properly
constructed to meet the required loading requirements. In saying this a
building permit is required for the installation of the new front and
side steps in addition to the rear porch area. The required repairs to
the decks will need to be done in a timely manner due to the exits being
a life and safety violation in addition to a liability for you as a
landlord.
As for the siding, the City of Oshkosh Municipal code requires the
exterior of every structure to be maintained by the owner in good
repair. Any deteriorated siding requires replacement. Once asphalt
siding starts to deteriorate there is no other option than to replace
the siding. In the past we have extended the timeframes for compliance
up to a year from the date of the original correction notice. However,
in saying that we also will issue citations if compliance is not achieve
by the extended compliance date. Although it is my understanding that
you would like to re-roof the house in addition to wrapping the windows
this will not eliminate the need to replace the siding.
As a landlord in the City of Oshkosh you are required to have your
property meet the Minimum Housing and Property Maintenance Codes. Even
if you bought the property in it's current state that doesn't guarantee
that the property is meeting the code requirements. I would advise you
to ask for a free Minimum Housing and Property Maintenance code when you
come into our office to obtain the required building permits. Please
apply the codes to your property to make sure that it meets the minimum
code requirements.
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Nicole Krahn
Building Systems Inspector
City of Oshkosh Inspection Division
(920) 236-5036
nkrahn@ci.oshkosh.wi.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick and Allyson Hildebrand [mailto:pjhildeb@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 1:22 AM
To:nkrahn@ci.oshkosh.wi.us
Subject: 842 W 11th Ave
Nicole,
I thought I would send you an e-mail in regards to the correction notice
I received today. I did receive your phone call, but was unable to call
you back before you left. I will need to go over these "violations"
with you in person so I have a better understanding of what needs to be
done at my property, but I have a few questions/comments to make in this
e-mail.
As I stated in my phone message, I fully agree with your concern about
the mess around the property. I haven't been past the property for the
past month or so, so I was not aware of the couch on the deck, the
papers and cardboard around the house, nor the truck topper in the back
yard. I have left messages with the tenant to clean the place up. If
they don't take care of things, I will take care of them.
In regards to the steps, and the siding, I am a bit confused. I will
admit, that I had the steps repaired in the last five years or so, but
that work was done by a former tenant who was a builder, and no
alterations were made. The old steps were getting warn and rotten I
asked him to make the proper repairs. I was not aware that I needed a
permit to repair the stairs, nor did I think that repairing warn out
steps would be a violation! The house is 80 years old, and some things
get warn out. I am aware that any structural changes need a permit, but
I did not think that any type of general maintenance required me to
acquire a permit. As you can see in your photos, the steps were
repaired, but the original railings were not altered. Indicating that
the original step design was not altered!
As for the siding, you said the house has to be resided! I have
pictures from when I bought the house in 1989, and there have been no
major aesthetic changes to the siding or trim since then! Unless
painting the trim brown instead of salmon color is a problem. I will
admit, the house isn't the prettiest house on the block, but asphalt
siding never was designed to win any "pretty" awards. I have been
planing on siding the house in the near future, but wanted to put on a
new roof, and have the windows updated, and wrapped before doing so. It
sounds to me that I have to side the house before doing those other
things. As I said, I want to side the house, but that is not usually
done until after the rood and windows are done. I am not really sure
why I have to side the house, seeing as it has looked virtually the same
for the past 18 + years. I know some of'the window trim needs to be
painted, and I had that scheduled to be done this spring! Actually I
want to have the
windows wrapped
I am not sure about the 3 X 3 landing, or the 48" of frost protection
you are talking about! If it is regards to the back entry area, I don't
understand where you are coming from. That area has been there since
the house was converted into a Duplex (Tri-plex) originally). Again,
the asphalt roof/deck on the upper balcony/entry area was starting to
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deteriorate, so I have the tenant who was a builder repair the area. He
suggested that I put a wood decking on instead of the asphalt because it
would drain off better, and wouldn't ware as easily. So that is what
was done. No structural changes were made. They only thing that was
changed was the additJon of legal size railing around the area. The
existing railing was less than 3" high, so it was replaced. Again, no
structural changes were made!
As far as 48" of frost protection, I am thinking you are talking about
some type of overhang or roof. None of the areas in question have been
altered! They are exactly the same as when I purchase the property! So
I am not exactly sure what area you are referring to.
I don't mean to sound like a complainer, but money doesn't grow on
trees! Being a landlord isn't a "GET RICH" business! I try to do the
best I can as a landlord, and try to get good tenants, and have them
keep things orderly around the property. But let me tell you, it isn't
getting any easier! MOST renters are renting for a reason! If they
were model citizens with great credit, and lots of money, they would
most likely buy their own homes. I try to help people out, and give
them a chance, and unfortunately I usually get burned! I have more and
more payments, and get less and less rent! You guys raise my taxes, the
utilities are skyrocketing, yet rent is going down! If I had the money
to put on new siding, a new roof, new stairs, and new windows, I would
have done it. BUT when I get a 40% increase in my property taxes and
utilities, and get 20% less rent, updates get put on the back burner!
I am hoping we can come to some type of reasonable solution to resolve
these matters. I look forward to your reply.
Thank you!
P.J. Hildebrand
pjhildeb@yahoo.com
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