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PROCEEDINGS OF THE COMMON COUNCIL
CITY OF OSHKOSH, WISCONSIN
REGULAR MEETING held Tuesday November 14,2006 at 6:00 p.m. in the Council
Chambers, City Hall.
Mayor Castle presided.
PRESENT: Council Members Meredith Scheuermann, Dennis McHugh, Bryan Bain, Paul
Esslinger, Burk Tower, Shirley Mattox and William Castle
ALSO PRESENT: Richard Wollangk, City Manager, Pamela Ubrig, City Clerk, Warren
Kraft, City Attorney and David Patek, Director of Public Works
Council Member Scheuermann read the Invocation.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Carlie Gonzales and Kaely Jungwirth from Smith
Elementary School; and, Elizabeth Fritz and Mackenzie Tice from Sunset Elementary School.
Public Hearing
The Mayor ordered the following Public Hearing:
2007 City Budget
Ralph Nielsen, 1617 W. 5th Avenue, representing the Senior Center presented a petition
recognizing the Council's past support.
Robert Cornell, 548 Smith Avenue, stated that the function of government was to provide
service and that the quality of life issues should not be compromised.
Bryan Fournier, 1111 Iowa Street, explained he was a city employee soon to be released of
his responsibilities on the library bookmobile and stated concerns with work hours and
compensation of sanitation employees.
Jerry Anklam, 1402 Liberty Street, questioned if the sanitation equipment was operated in a
manner that it was designed and beneficial for.
There were no other appearances and the Public Hearing was CLOSED.
Consent Agenda
The minutes of the October 24,2006 meeting were presented as written.
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The Report of the City Manager was read.
Council Member McHugh questioned who comprised the Celebration of Lights Committee.
He questioned the amount of money generated from the event and the cost to taxpayers.
Mr. Wollangk responded.
The bills were presented in the amount of $5,423,468.90.
The Report of the City Clerk was read.
Resolution 06-325 Approve Agreement with State of Wisconsin I Mobile Home Parks
Resolution 06-326 Vacate Easement; Accept Easements:
A) 2010 Dickinson Avenue
B) Hearthstone Drive & Park Ridge Avenue
C) Fraser Drive & Hemlock Court
Council Member Mattox questioned if the sidewalks on Dickinson Avenue were installed prior
to Council approval. She questioned if the concerns on Fraser Drive and Hemlock Court had
been resolved. She also questioned if the City had standards for utility boxes.
Council Member Tower suggested the City should make the utility companies aware of the
quality control issues with the utility boxes.
Mr. Wollangk and Mr. Patek responded.
Resolution 06-327 Grant Conditional Use Permit; Approve Preliminary Planned Development
- North of Fountain Avenue I US Highway 45 & East of County Road T
Resolution 06-328 Award Bid I Liquid Oxygen I Water Filtration Plant
Resolution 06-329 Award Bid I Public Works Contract No. 06-01 I Broad Street Turbine
Generator Project
Resolution 06-330 Approve Initial Resolution I Not Exceeding $12,500,000 General
Obligation Bonds
Resolution 06-331 Direct Advertisement, Sale of Approximately $12, 500, 000 General
Obligation Corporate Purpose Refunding Bonds, Series 2006-D; and,
Approximately $13,500,000 Aggregate Principal Amount of Water
Revenue Bonds, Series 2006-E
Resolution 06-332 Approve Appointments
Resolution 06-333 Disallow Claim I Gehrt
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Resolution 06-334 Disallow Claim I Murphy
Resolution 06-335 Approve Miscellaneous Licenses
MOTION: ADOPT CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING RESOLUTION 06-327
(Esslinger; second, Scheuermann)
CARRIED: Ayes (7) Scheuermann, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Mattox,
Castle
Resolution 06-327 Grant Conditional Use Permit; Approve Preliminary Planned Development
- North of Fountain Avenue I US Highway 45 & East of County Road T
MOTION:
ADOPT (Bain; second, Scheuermann)
MOTION:
LOST:
LAYOVER (Mattox; no second)
LACK OF SECOND
VOTE ON MOTION TO ADOPT:
CARRIED: Ayes (6) Scheuermann, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Castle;
Noes (1) Mattox
Council Member Mattox expressed concerns with a residential area being located between two
highways. She stated it was a prime area for an Industrial Park versus residential properties.
She stated she would not support it as presented and proposed to have a group review the
area and to postpone the vote for a month.
Mayor Castle explained that the proposed zone change was to add a PD (Planned
Development Overlay) to the current A-1 Light Agricultural. He also explained that an
overpass was planned in 2009 between Ryf Road and Highway T. He stated his support for
the use of the land.
Council Member Bain had various questions pertaining to the proposed group review.
Council Member Scheuermann questioned if there had been discussion with Chamco
regarding the property since the Comprehensive Plan update.
Council Member McHugh questioned if a new project would affect the development occurring
on the west side of Highway 45.
Mr. Kinney, Community Development Director, responded.
Public Agenda Discussion:
Ordinance 06-337 Approve Parking Regulations
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Robert Cornell, 548 W. Smith Avenue, asked for Council's support regarding the parking
regulations on Walnut Street.
Ordinance 06-338 Enact Facility Charge I Leach Amphitheater
Mike Dempsey, 89 Cove Lane, representative for Waterfest, stated they were not in support
of the facility charge, he explained it would triple their occupancy costs at the Leach
Amphitheater from about $20,000.00 to more than $60,000.00. He stated that Waterfest was
supported and underwritten by sponsors, donors and volunteers, which allowed ticket prices
to remain at an attractive price. He explained that they lost money this year, which would
probably result in an increase to ticket prices.
Council Member Esslinger stated that taxpayers now pay $20,000.00 a month for the facility.
He questioned Mr. Dempsey if they would guarantee no increase in Waterfest ticket prices.
Gary Eake, 2375 Highway 44, explained that the City of Neenah had a similar attraction
and an increase in costs could possibly drive the public elsewhere.
Robert Cornell, 548 W. Smith Avenue, questioned the venue difference between the Grand
Theater and the Leach Amphitheater. He questioned why there should be a facility charge for
one and not the other.
Council Member Tower questioned Mr. Casper to differentiate between the Grand Theater and
the Leach Amphitheater.
John Casper, 120 Jackson Street, spoke on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce. He urged
Council not to enact the facility charge. He explained that the Grand Theater was a venue of
600 people and the Leach Amphitheater was a venue of 8,000 people and added that the
events for the outside Amphitheater were far more risky. He noted that Waterfest draws
40,000 to 50,000 individuals to the community, which creates financial opportunities for local
merchants. He stated that the facility charge would reduce their ability to continue to bring top
national acts to the facility. He stated that it would inhibit attendance and the attributes that
were linked to it in addition to the ability to promote Oshkosh, Downtown Oshkosh, and
Oshkosh on the Water.
Ordinance 06-340 Approve Official Mapping: Storm Drainage Detention Areas
A) West 9th Avenue & South Washburn Street
B) Broad Street & East New York Avenue
Gail Demler, 2115 W. 9th Avenue, urged Council to relocate the proposed detention pond
for W. 9th Avenue and S. Washburn Street.
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Jessica Machmueller, 423 E. New York Avenue, stated she understood the need for the
detention pond that would be placed on the property that she and her husband currently own.
She expressed a concern to prevent future miscommunication and poor planning that occurred
when they recently purchased the property. She explained that two weeks after they moved
in they were made aware of the situation.
Sam Sundet, 1331 Maricopa Drive, spoke on behalf of the landowners of the proposed storm
drainage area at W. 9th Avenue and South Washburn Street. He explained the development
potential and the tax base that would be created on the property. He asked for alternative
areas to be explored.
Lee Engelman, 5421 Highway K, explained he owned 3.75 acres of land in the proposed area
of W. 9th Avenue and S. Washburn Street. He stated it was a good idea but the wrong
location, that there were other potential areas that could be utilized. He explained the property
was a prime area for development and the City could not afford to lose the potential tax base
that the property would generate.
Mayor Castle questioned what other areas would be viable.
Gary Eake, 2375 Highway 44, explained the potential locations/options: a five acre parcel by
the Westhaven Golf Course, expanding existing waterways and ponds at the Golf Course,
minimizing the size of the Golf Course, twenty acres near Witzel Avenue, and/or possible
parcels near the Southwest Industrial Park. He stated that he was not an expert and did not
know if the areas fell into the watershed, however those were sites in the area that appeared
to have reasonable opportunity.
Action Taken on Ordinances and Resolutions
Ordinance 06-336
Approve Traffic Regulations
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Scheuermann)
Ayes (7) Scheuermann, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Mattox,
Castle
Mayor Castle questioned if the City would issue notices after signage was changed relating
to parking regulations.
Ordinance 06-337
Approve Parking Regulations
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Scheuermann)
Ayes (7) Scheuermann, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Mattox,
Castle
Ordinance 06-338 Enact Facility Charge / Leach Amphitheater
MOTION:
ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Bain)
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MOTION: AMEND TO EXEMPT NON - PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS (Bain;
second, Esslinger)
CARRIED: Ayes (4) Bain, Tower, Mattox, Castle;
Noes (2) McHugh, Esslinger;
Present (1) Scheuermann
MOTION: AMEND PROCEEDS TO BE USED FOR NON - ROUTINE
MAINTENANCE NOT DEBT SERVICE AND FUNDS HELD AT THE
OSHKOSH AREA COMMUNITY FOUNDATION (Tower; second, Bain)
CARRIED: Ayes (5) McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Mattox;
Noes (1) Castle;
Present (1) Scheuermann
VOTE ON MOTION TO AMEND:
CARRIED: Ayes (5) McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Mattox;
Noes (1) Castle;
Present (1) Scheuermann
Council Member Esslinger stated that the taxpayers have $4.5 million dollars invested in the
Leach Amphitheater and he did not believe that an additional $1.00 fee would deter the public
from attending functions. He noted that in the past he had proposed a cost of $1.50 to payoff
the debt and to cover maintenance. He mentioned the possibility of the yard waste drop off
site fee being increased from $15.00 to $20.00 and questioned if Council would support using
the generated monies to pay down the drop off site charge. He questioned in what account
the proceeds to be used for non-routine maintenance would be held at the Oshkosh Area
Foundation.
Council Member Scheuermann questioned if communications from PMI were received. She
questioned why initially the facility charge was to go into a segregated fund to cover non-
routine maintenance and future updates and questioned why now the debt was to be paid back
first. She questioned who was responsible for making decisions involving non-routine
maintenance. She stated that due to an employer conflict she would vote present.
Mr. Kraft and Mr. Wollangk responded.
Council Member Tower explained he would not support the fee to be used to payoff the debt,
but he would support the fee to go for non-routine maintenance and for improvements, which
would save the taxpayers money.
Council Member McHugh stated a facility fee would not have a negative effect on ticket sales.
He explained that the money should be used for improvements and maintenance.
Mayor Castle stated that the individuals that operate Waterfest knew their market and he
trusted their opinion. He explained that there was no debt on the Amphitheater, but that there
was debt due to the contamination of the former site. He explained he would not support the
facility charge at this time.
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Council Member Bain explained the history of the action taken on past proposals. He stated
a concern on where the money would go and how it would be utilized. He stated the majority
of the impact would be on non-profit organizations.
Council Member Mattox stated there was a risk to outdoor events and she would like to
complete the term of the contract and review the facility charge at that time.
Ordinance 06-339 Approve Zone Change / North of Fountain Avenue / US Highway 45 & East
of County Road T
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Bain)
Ayes (6) Scheuermann, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Castle;
Noes (1) Mattox
Ordinance 06-340 Approve Official Mapping: Storm Drainage Detention Areas
A) West 9th Avenue & South Washburn Street
B) Broad Street & East New York Avenue
MOTION:
MOTION:
CARRIED:
MOTION:
CARRIED:
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADOPT (Esslinger; second, Bain)
DIVIDE ORDINANCE 06-340 INTO:
ORDINANCE 06-340A - WEST 9TH AVENUE & SOUTH WASHBURN
STREET; AND,
ORDINANCE 06-340B - BROAD STREET & EAST NEW YORK
AVENUE (Bain; second, Esslinger)
Ayes (7) Scheuermann, McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Mattox
Castle
ADOPT ORDINANCE 06-340A (Esslinger; second, Bain)
Ayes (6) McHugh, Bain, Esslinger, Tower, Mattox, Castle;
Noes (1) Scheuermann,
ADOPT ORDINANCE 06-340B (Esslinger; second, Bain)
Ayes (5) Scheuermann, Bain, Tower, Mattox, Castle;
Noes (2) McHugh, Esslinger,
Council Member Bain asked for clarification of Council's action and resolving the concerns in
the drainage basin. He questioned if the areas in the Westhaven Golf Course area, which
were referenced earlier, would serve the purpose. He questioned if there were other areas in
the Campbell Creek Basin that would suffice and the availability of the vacant area on the
corner of Waukau Avenue and Highway 44. He stated that the Council had two options; to
either vote it down or to lay it over to allow Mr. Patek to explore other options. He stated
concerns with the potential commercial development that could occur at the proposed site and
the nearby housing with children in the area. He questioned the history of the land acquisition
for the property of Broad Street and E. New York Avenue.
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Council Member Scheuermann questioned what the next step would be if the motion lost. She
questioned the input from the Department of Community Development. She stated there
appeared to be other possibilities available and she would not support it at this time.
Council Member Tower explained the issue of not stopping the water early enough if the area
on Highway 44 was utilized and he questioned if future development would add to the water
problems. He stated that a further study was reasonable at this time and added that he would
support the official mapping of the property to protect the area at this time.
Mayor Castle questioned if the re-build of Highway 41 would affect the water table. He also
questioned the process for the City to acquire available property.
Council Member Mattox questioned the option of piping water instead of having a retention
pond. She questioned the amount of land necessary to alleviate the problem areas. She also
questioned how the public was made aware of long term storm management plans.
Council Member McHugh questioned the expected costs associated with land acquisition for
the property on W. 9th Avenue and S. Washburn Street. He suggested using Landmark Plaza
as an area for the detention area. He stated he would support the development of the property
as a commercial site. In regard to Broad Street and E. New York Avenue he stated he would
not support evicting someone from their home when there was a possibility that someone else
would be interested in selling their property.
Council Member Esslinger stated that vacant land should be a priority. He stated he would
support a study and questioned if the study would include the Broad Street and E. New
York Avenue property.
Mr. Patek and John Leonard, representative of Strand & Associates responded.
Citizen Statements
Gordon Doule, 1225 Summit Avenue, expressed concerns regarding a recent attempt for a
local group to present a petition to Winnebago County. He also expressed concerns regarding
entrepreneurship.
Council Member Statements
Council Member Bain stated that the notes from last 5th Tuesday Forum in October would be
available at the next meeting. He announced the next Forum would be January 30,2007. He
stated a budget workshop would be held on November 20th and links to the information could
be found on both the City Web Site and his web site. He commented on the closed meeting
of February 14th and encouraged the public to read the letter form the Assistant Attorney
General. He questioned if in the future someone with authority, within the City, would review
final drafts of public notices.
Mr. Wollangk responded.
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Council Member Mattox explained that the City of Oshkosh had been culturally engaged for
many years. She reviewed history of Felicia Kranz, her three sisters and the influence they
had in regard to artistic and cultural resources for the City. She informed the public that there
would be a movie featuring these women at the Museum on November 1 th and 18th. She
stated that Opera House Square had a tree lighting ceremony last Friday, November 10th. She
announced that she would not run for a fourth term as a Council Member and she encouraged
others to serve the community. She said she would continue to serve the City because there
were a number of causes that she passionately cared about.
Council Member Esslinger made a statement regarding the February 14th closed meeting. He
explained that the letter from the Assistant Attorney General was open to interpretation. He
thanked Cheryl Hentz and Tony Palmerie for taking the time to file the petition.
Whatever Else is Pertinent or for the Good of the City
Mr. Wollangk announced that the final budget workshop would be held at 5:00 p.m. on
November 20th. He stated that the library received a Webbie Award for the best referenced
site. He informed Council and citizens that Washburn Street opened today at 5:00 p.m. He
explained that the City does not pick up leafs on weekends.
MOTION:
CARRIED:
ADJOURN (Esslinger; second, Scheuermann)
VOICE VOTE
The meeting adjourned at 9:28 p.m.
PAMELA R. UBRIG
CITY CLERK
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