HomeMy WebLinkAboutLandmarks Minutes 09.11.2024CITY OF OSHKOSH LANDMARKS COMMISSION
Minutes
September 11th, 2024
PRESENT: Shirley Brabender Mattox, Sara Stichert, Paulette Feld, Nikki Stoll Olthoff, Steve
Cummings, Vicky Redlin, and Council Member Jacob Floam
ABSENT: Gerald Jacklin
STAFF: Amy Fels, Museum Archivist
Agenda:
1) Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 3:00pm.
2) Approval of August 14th Meeting Minutes
Councilmember Floam motioned to approve the August minutes, and Mr. Cummings
seconded. The minutes were approved unanimously by voice vote.
3) 413 N. Main Street Historic Plaque Application
Ms. Brabender Mattox provided the Commission with an update regarding the plaque
and its corresponding event. Due to backlog at the foundry caused by an equipment
failure, the final plaque will not be done in time for the event on September 26, but there
will be a facsimile present. The event will begin at 4:00, with the formal plaque
presentation taking place at 4:30. Ms. Stoll Olthoff offered her assistance if Ms.
Brabender Mattox needed any help with setting up for the event. There will be a series
of prints of Lewis Hine photographs on display inside Jambalaya. Ms. Brabender Mattox
hopes the event will be open to the public until 7:00 in the evening and encouraged as
many Commissioners who can attend as possible to do so. She stated she may give a talk
at the event.
4) WHS Certified Legal Government (CLG) Grant Application Letter of Intent
Ms. Brabender Mattox stated that she believes the Commission will have the greatest
chance of success by submitting a letter of intent to apply for a grant to nominate a
historic district, rather than doing an archaeological survey or attempting to list a single
building. There are two districts in the city considered eligible at this time, one on
Elmwood Avenue, and the 500 Block of Hazel Street, between Merritt Avenue and
Parkway Avenue. Ms. Brabender Mattox stated the majority of properties on Hazel
Street are owner-occupied, rather than rented, which increases the Commission’s chance
of a successful application. She stated she will contact Jason Tisch at SHPO to inquire
how much communication is required with the homeowners before submitting the
application. Ms. Stoll Olthoff motioned to proceed with applying for a CLG Grant to
nominate the Hazel Street Historic District to the National and State Historic Registers.
Councilmember Floam seconded, and the motion was approved unanimously by voice
vote.
5) Merrill School and Sacred Heart School – Wisconsin Historical Society
Ms. Brabender Mattox stated that it is customary that a building that is historically
eligible is set to be razed, it is customary to photograph the interior and exterior and
submit those photos to the Wisconsin Historical Society for their files. The consulting
firm hired by the school district to look at Merrill School will be submitting the photos
they took of the property to the state. Ms. Brabender Mattox contacted Andy Ratchman,
of Camera Casino, who took photographs of Sacred Heart for the church community,
and he will be creating a specific file of his photographs of the Sacred Heart School to
send to Ms. Brabender Mattox that she will then forward on to the state. Councilmember
Floam stated that the status of Merrill School is still somewhat in limbo, because the
Common Council recently rejected the school district’s plan for a new athletic field, and
until plans are approved, he does not believe the building can be razed.
6) UWO Multicultural Center Renovations (Wall House)
Mr. Cummings spoke about having driven past the UWO Multicultural Center, the
former Wall House, at 751 Algoma Boulevard over the weekend. Mr. Cummings was
concerned about the significant scope of work being done, including window
replacements, and the fact that the project never came to the Landmarks Commission,
despite the building being listed on the National Register both individually and as part
of district. Ms. Brabender Mattox stated she contacted the State Historic Preservation
Office, since the university is state-owned property, so all projects would have to go past
SHPO. She is awaiting a response. Ms. Feld suggested contacting the university’s
facilities department. The Commissioners questioned if the university was required to
submit projects to the City since they are state-owned property. Councilmember Floam
stepped out to ask Jeffrey Witte from City Planning that question, and Mr. Witte came in
to inform the Commission that the university does not have submit permits to City
Planning; they go directly to the state. Mr. Witte stated that he knows of the contract
company doing the work and that they have worked on historic properties in the past.
The Commissioners thanked Mr. Witte for his help, and he left.
7) Marketing Historic Tax Credits
Mr. Cummings stated that, following his house appearing in a Herald article, he wants to
change how they speak to the public about using tax credits for home projects. He
believes that it is important to emphasize that tax credits can be used for smaller projects
on modest homes, not simply just massive undertakings on large, grand houses. He
stated that people who tackle very large projects likely have the money to do so anyway;
the tax credits would be a more significant financial benefit to homeowners of more
modest means. Mr. Cummings asked how the Commission can get more people
involved in the program to benefit from the tax credits. Ms. Redlin suggested using the
Commission’s Facebook page consistently to reach out to the members of the
community who are active on social media and inform them that the tax credits can be
used for things life roofs, heaters, etc. Councilmember Floam asked Ms. Brabender
Mattox if she has a good contact at the Wisconsin Historical Society to ask about getting
some pre-made historic preservation and tax credit informational marketing materials
that the Commission to provide to community members. Ms. Brabender Mattox
reminded the Commissioners that a property must be considered eligible to a historic
register to qualify to historic tax credits.
Ms. Brabender Mattox recalled a Herald article Mr. Cummings had written in the past on
tax credits and suggested reusing them and posting them on Facebook. Ms. Fels
suggested that re-running the article in the newspaper may also be useful to reach new
readers who may not have seen it originally. Mr. Cummings stated he would be happy
to talk to people about the program, because it is not as complicated as it may seem. Ms.
Redlin suggested being present at the next OshHop event hosted by the Oshkosh Public
Museum, since many of the past year’s attendees asked questions about historic
preservation and preserving their homes. The Commissioners also spoke in favor of
using ready-made media materials provided by the Wisconsin Historical Society. Ms.
Brabender Mattox asked that this item be included on next month’s agenda for
continued discussion and proposed the possibility of having someone from the state
come speak to the community. Ms. Stoll Olthoff also suggested, when posting old
articles to the Facebook page, to include images of the actual article, and then include a
link to the full article within the Herald to make it as easy as possible for people to see.
Ms. Feld said it would be a good idea to let the Herald know so they’re aware.
8) Oshkosh Herald Article Topics
Ms. Brabender Mattox stated she will write an article on Lewis Hine for September to
coincide with the upcoming plaque dedication and celebration at 413 N. Main Street. She
also stated, in agreement with the other Commissioners, that she will write an article on
architect Welton Becket and his designing of the Park Plaza Mall for October, since the
structure has been a recent topic of community interest and discussion. The proposal to
use it for storage units has been temporarily put on hold, and it was recently proposed
that it could potentially be the new home of Oshkosh City Hall, since the City is looking
to find a more suitable facility that its current location in the old high school.
9) Commissioner Statements
a. WHS Local History & Historic Preservation Conference Oct. 16-18
Ms. Brabender Mattox reminded the Commissioners of the upcoming WHS
Local History & Historic Preservation conference in Appleton. She stated she
would pay the registration fees for any member interested in attending.
10) Staff Liaison Report
a. Monthly Building Permit Report
No monthly permit report was received for this month.
b. Agenda Items for Next Meeting
WHS CLG Grant Application, Marketing Historic Tax Credits, Oshkosh Herald
articles
11) Adjournment
Councilmember Floam motioned to adjourn the meeting, and Ms. Feld seconded. The
meeting adjourned at 4:15.