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Plan Commission Minutes 1 September 6, 2022
PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES
September 6, 2022
PRESENT: Margy Davey, Michael Ford, Justin Mitchell, Thomas Perry, Kathleen Propp, John
Kiefer, Karl Loewenstein, Ed Bowen
EXCUSED: Meredith Scheuermann, Mamadou Coulibaly
STAFF: Mark Lyons, Planning Services Manager; Kelly Nieforth, Community Development
Director; Steven Gohde, Assistant Director of Public Works; Brian Slusarek, Planner;
Jeff Nau, Associate Planner;
Chairperson Perry called the meeting to order at 4:00 pm. Roll call was taken and a quorum
declared present.
The minutes of August 16, 2022 were approved as presented. (Kiefer/Davey)
I. ACCEPT SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN VACATED E. 8TH
AVENUE – Withdrawn by Staff
II. PARTIAL RIGHT-OF-WAY VACATION E. 9TH AVENUE
Site Inspections Report: No Commissioners reported visiting the site.
Staff report accepted as part of the record.
The Department of Community Development is requesting the partial vacation of a small section
of E. 9th Avenue, located east of S. Main Street, between Blocks 12 and 13 of the Plat of the Original
Third Ward.
Mr. Nau presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the land use
and zoning classifications in this area. The area in this request involves approximately 100-foot by
15-foot, 520 square foot (0.0119 acre) triangular portion of E. 9th Avenue located east of S. Main
Street.
The site is located within the Sawdust District, an area targeted for revitalization with a mix of new
and rehabilitation projects to attract commercial and residential developments. The surrounding
area has a variety of uses including commercial, industrial and low to high-density residential
developments. There are also numerous properties that have been acquired by the Oshkosh
Redevelopment Authority which have been cleared and prepped for potential developments. Staff
recommends approval with the findings and conditions as listed in the staff report.
Mr. Perry opened up technical questions to staff.
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Mr. Perry asked for any public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any
statements.
Mr. Perry closed public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any closing
statements.
Motion by Propp to adopt the findings and recommendation as stated in the staff report.
Seconded by Kiefer.
Mr. Perry asked if there was any discussion on the motion.
Motion carried 8-0.
III. COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT FROM LIGHT DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED
AT 1529-1539 OSHKOSH AVENUE
Site Inspections Report: Ms. Propp, Mr. Bowen, Ms. Davey, Mr. Kiefer, and Mr. Perry all reported
visiting the site.
Staff report accepted as part of the record.
The applicant is requesting an amendment to the Recommended Land Use Map in the
Comprehensive Plan. The subject area is designated for light density residential land use; the
applicant is requesting a change to a neighborhood commercial land use designation.
Mr. Slusarek presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the land
use and zoning classifications in this area. The petitioner is requesting a comprehensive land use
map amendment of two existing single family residential properties at the southeast corner of
Oshkosh Ave. and N. Eagle St., totaling 0.69 acres. The petitioner is proposing to combine the lots
and redevelop the site for a commercial office use. The proposed use is not consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan and is not permitted in the SR-9 district. The lot will require a
comprehensive land use map amendment and zone change to allow the proposed development.
The surrounding area consists of single and two family residential uses to the north, south, and
east, and commercial and parkland uses to the west.
In October of 2018, the City adopted the Comprehensive Plan Update 2040, an update to the
previous plan from 2005. Part of the update entailed refining the 20-Year Recommended Land Use
Map. The map is a representation of future land uses within the City and in the extraterritorial
three mile buffer. Future land use maps are intended to be used as a general reference tool for
determining appropriate future land use and growth patterns. When creating the maps,
recommended uses were determined on a broader scale rather than a parcel by parcel basis. Staff
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realizes that sections of the Comprehensive Plan, including mapping portions, need to be updated
or revised periodically to accommodate logical requests/changes in future land use.
The petitioner approached the City about developing a commercial office building at the subject
site. The proposal was brought to a Plan Commission workshop on July 5, 2022. Plan Commission
was generally supportive of the proposal, provided the exterior of the building is compatible with
the surround buildings and the site is only accessed from N. Eagle Street.
A neighborhood meeting was held on August 2, 2022. All neighbors in attendance were not
supportive of the proposal, voicing multiple concerns related to traffic, parking, proximity of the
development to residential properties, change of the character of the neighborhood, and storm
water runoff onto adjacent properties.
Based on the information presented during the Plan Commission workshop and neighborhood
meeting, staff is recommending that Plan Commission make a determination if the proposed
Neighborhood Commercial future land use designation is appropriate for properties located at
1529-1539 Oshkosh Avenue.
Mr. Perry opened up technical questions to staff.
Mr. Bowen asked if there was any development planned in the next two to three years near the
entrance to Rainbow Park by Sawyer St and Oshkosh Ave.
Mr. Lyons said he doesn’t believe the final determination has been made on when the construction
would take place.
Mr. Mitchell asked if all storm water impact would have to be self-contained on their own site.
Mr. Slusarek said that is correct and it would be a part of the site plan review process.
Council Member Ford asked staff to expand what this could do to the number of vehicles parking
there and the impact of traffic.
Mr. Slusarek said that based on the land use being converted from residential to commercial, any
future land use would need to be within the maximum parking requirements which typically for
office is 1.25 spaces per 300 sq. feet.
Ms. Davey asked if this site was on a bus route.
Mr. Lyons said it’s on GO Transit route 5.
Mr. Perry asked for any public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any
statements.
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Norm Bock, 2242 White Swan Dr, said he received a letter from a tenant requesting additional
space and they were looking for something with a high traffic volume. The City did a plan a few
years ago that indicates that Oshkosh Ave was going to be a main corridor. This location works for
the tenant but because it’s residential, it’s necessary to go through this process. At the last meeting,
there was some opposition which included storm water. The architect said that based on City
codes, the building was too small to require a retention pond. At 1529 Oshkosh Ave, there is a
water basin that’s approximately 2-2.5 feet. Mr. Bock says he has never seen any standing water on
the lot.
Philip Carpenter, 1518 Maple St, said that when it rains heavily, there are several yards that do get
standing water for days. He’s been a resident for 72 years and would like the neighborhood to
remain residential.
Eric Heid, 1321 Punhoqua St, said that the proposed site plan that was shown to the neighbors
didn’t hold up to the ordinances as stated in Chapter 30 of the Oshkosh Municipal codes. Mr.
Bock’s plan does not have the required space for the NMU or UMU districts. The neighbors all
agree that this application should be denied. There are commercial vacant buildings available in
the city for the tenants Mr. Bock has. The city ordinance says that no application which has been
denied shall be resubmitted for a period of 365 days. While Mr. Bock may have resources to go
through this process again, it provides undue burden on the people in the neighborhood.
Brandon Hella, 1538 Maple Ave, said that he has concerns about snow removal. The nursing home
residents will have issues seeing past the building once it’s up which could make driving difficult.
The loss of the housing in the neighborhood is an issue as well as the damage to the tree on the
property.
Patricia Karlgaard, 1503 Oshkosh Ave, said the limited plan that Mr. Bock showed the neighbors
has the new building roof being 6 times the size of the current two houses there plus the new
parking lot which means a lot of extra runoff. Nobody wants the flooding to happen again, and if
the building goes up, all the neighbors will have flooding when it rains. This project will not make
the neighborhood better.
Matt Thomas, 1519 Oshkosh Ave, is the neighbor next to the subject site. There is a lot of water
runoff especially with the drainage system. He hopes the right decision will be made.
Sativa Larson, 1538 Maple Ave, said the yards have bad flooding in the springtime but the
basements stay dry. If the water problem gets worse, they are worried the basements won’t stay
dry.
Mr. Perry closed public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any closing
statements.
There were no other public comments on this item.
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Mr. Lyons said that the Plan Commission will have to decide on a recommendation and support it
with their own findings. This is specific to the Comp Plan only has nothing to do with zone
change, or building. The state statutes says that in order to move forward with a zone change, you
must have consistency with the comprehensive plan.
Mr. Mitchell asked to return to technical questions.
Mr. Perry said that it was appropriate in this instance in order to make a motion or action.
Mr. Mitchell asked what the future land use map shows for this area.
Mr. Lyons said that the lot and going to the east is all still slated for low density residential. On the
north side, it does call for commercial.
Mr. Loewenstein asked for clarification on the process that the applicant would have to go
through.
Mr. Lyons said that the first step in the process is the comprehensive plan amendment. This is
narrowly defined in the state statutes as the body would make a recommendation, a notice would
go in the paper; they wait 30 days and council has a hearing to determine whether or not they
want to amend the comp plan. Should that take place and be successful, the applicant would have
to come back with a zone change request from SR-9 to UMU or NMU zoning district. They would
have to have a successful rezone to one of those commercial designations with a potential planned
development overlay. If they cannot meet all base code requirements, they could potentially use a
planned development overlay. They would have to come back again, to seek approval of that
planned development. To go forward, it has to meet all base code requirements. If they can’t meet
that or won’t, that’s when the planned development comes in and this body and council would
have to choose whether to grant the planned development overlay district and approve both a
general development plan and specific implementation plan that potentially grants base standard
modifications.
Mr. Mitchell said there was a concern about setbacks from the neighbors, but there would be
setback requirements if this was changed to commercial.
Mr. Lyons said that is correct. If a rezone takes place, then the setback standards for that district
would be required.
Mr. Mitchell said there was talk about snow and water, but any change to storm water would
require to be up to storm water code and be self-contained on that lot.
Mr. Lyons said they would need to meet the current storm water requirements of the city of
Oshkosh. If a building disturbs more than 20,000 sq. feet of impervious surface there are some
additional quantity and quality requirements that have to take place. If they are less, they would
have to collect and convey.
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Mr. Mitchell said that there is currently a house close to the intersection. With the new setbacks,
that could help with the visibility of the intersection of incoming traffic.
Mr. Lyons said there are some zoning setbacks that come into play, and there are clear site
requirements for safety and seeing around a corner. It does have to meet the visibility standards.
Mr. Mitchell asked if this moves forward, is there an option that allows Plan Commission to better
conform a future development to the neighborhood.
Mr. Lyons said that for today’s request, no. This is just for a comp plan amendment. Any
additional requests could take place during the zone change and potential planned development.
Ms. Davey asked if they are limited to the two properties.
Mr. Lyons said yes because that was all that was legally noticed.
Mr. Loewenstein asked when the whole area will be reviewed.
Mr. Lyons said there was some discussion if Oshkosh Ave was an appropriate place to do a
corridor study like they did with South Park, Jackson and 9th. There are no current plans to do a
corridor study.
Mr. Perry asked if the alleyway was only improved by paved alley and no gutter or water runoff.
Mr. Lyons said there are water lines only on Oshkosh Ave, sanitary is on Oshkosh Ave, and there
is a mixture of storm sewers on Oshkosh Ave, N. Eagle and some in the alley.
Mr. Perry asked if there was a failure to pass the comprehensive plan amendment, what happens
with the project.
Mr. Lyons said if the comp plan amendment would not be passed by council, then it would stay
single family low residential.
Mr. Mitchell asked if they could approve the comp plan amendment but come back later with
findings.
Mr. Lyons said it would have to be tabled at that point. In order to make a recommendation, there
has to be findings to substantiate that recommendation.
Mr. Mitchell asked Mr. Bock if he would be okay if Plan Commission tabled this for two weeks.
Mr. Bock said he wouldn’t mind.
Ms. Propp said she was not in support of the comp plan amendment because the traffic is already
unsafe to navigate. It will not improve the area.
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Mr. Bowen said that he is not supportive of a limited amendment to the comp plan. It doesn’t
make sense to do it for such a small part of a larger area. There is significant development activity
to the west of this parcel and eventually to the east. If Plan Commission is going to do anything
with a comp plan amendment, they need to look at the larger picture.
Ed Bowen left at 4:45pm.
Mr. Mitchell said that after listening to the neighbor concerns, it seems like all of the issues that
were raised would be addressed with the rezoning and site plan approval process.
Mr. Lyons said that state statutes for what should be considered when reviewing a possible comp
plan amendment: 1) The amendment would correct an error that exists in the comp plan. 2) The
proposed amendment is generally consistent with the visions, goals, objectives and policies
contained within the comprehensive plan or there has been change in the community
characteristics that justify a change. 3) The proposed amendment will not be detrimental to the
property in the immediate vicinity or to the community as a whole. 4) The proposed amendment
will not have a significant adverse impact on the ability to provide adequate public facilities or
services or will improve public facilities for the community.
Ms. Davey said she’s uncomfortable making a small change to the comp plan. If Plan Commission
was going to do this for the whole block or the side of the street, that would make more sense. She
said she is not supportive of this project.
Mr. Lyons said that this comp plan amendment come to them because of a property owner
request.
Motion by Council Member Ford to approve the comp plan amendment as requested.
Seconded by Propp.
Mr. Perry asked if there was any discussion on the motion.
Ms. Propp agrees with Ms. Davey and suggested that maybe this could be a workshop.
Motion denied 6-1 (nay, Propp, Loewenstein, Davey, Council Member Ford, Kiefer, Perry)
Findings:
The proposed amendment will be detrimental to the property in the immediate vicinity or to the
community as a whole.
IV. SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AMENDMENT FOR LANDSCAPING
REVISION AT 2300 WITZEL AVENUE
Site Inspections Report: Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Kiefer reported visiting the site.
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Staff report accepted as part of the record.
The petitioner requests approval of a Specific Implementation Plan (SIP) amendment for
landscaping modifications at 2300 Witzel Avenue.
Mr. Slusarek presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the land
use and zoning classifications in this area. The subject site is an irregularly shaped 2 acre vacant
lot, with frontage on Witzel Ave., west of the Westbrook Dr., and north of Graceland Dr. The
property is zoned Neighborhood Mixed Use District with a Planned Development Overlay (NMU-
PD). The surrounding area consists primarily of residential uses to the north, south, and east and
commercial uses to the west along Witzel Ave. The 2040 Comprehensive Land Use Plan
recommends Neighborhood Commercial use for the subject area.
On April 12, 2022, Common Council approved a General Development Plan and Specific
Implementation Plan for a dental clinic development at the subject site.
The applicant has submitted a revised landscaping plan for the site. The only change to the
approved plan is removal of the 4’ tall wood rail fence shown along the north property line, which
was contributing toward the 0.1 opacity bufferyard requirement along the north property line, and
addition of 3 Techny Arborvitae trees. Staff recommends approval with the findings and
conditions as listed in the staff report.
Mr. Perry opened up technical questions to staff.
Ms. Davy asked why they wanted to change it.
Mr. Slusarek said they didn’t specify, but it could be cost or preference.
Mr. Perry asked for any public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any
statements.
Mr. Perry closed public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any closing
statements.
There were no other public comments on this item.
There were no closing statements from the applicant.
Motion by Mitchell to adopt the findings and recommendation as stated in the staff report.
Seconded by Kiefer.
Mr. Perry asked if there was any discussion on the motion.
Motion carried 7-0.
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V. PUBLIC HEARING: ZONE CHANGE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT (HI) TO
HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OVERLAY (HI-PD)
AND APPROVAL OF A GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN & SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION
PLAN FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3815 OREGON STREET
Site Inspections Report: Mr. Mitchell reported visiting the site.
Staff report accepted as part of the record.
The applicant requests a zone change from the existing Heavy Industrial District (HI) to Heavy
Industrial District with a Planned Development Overlay (HI-PD). The applicant also requests
approval of General Development Plan and Specific Implementation Plan for an out outdoor
storage area at 3815 Oregon Street.
Mr. Slusarek presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the land
use and zoning classifications in this area. The applicant is requesting a zone change to add a
Planned Development Overlay for the subject property. This request is intended to provide some
flexibility to the zoning ordinance to allow accommodate an outdoor storage area on the site. The
applicant has submitted preliminary plans for the outdoor storage area, which will be addressed as
General Development Plan (GDP) and Specific Implementation Plan (SIP) review to follow. Staff is
supportive of the proposed rezone as it will assist in providing needed storage area for the site.
The applicant is proposing outdoor storage areas on the west and north sides of the existing
building. The request also includes addition of approximately 8’ of gravel to the west of the
existing paved access drive on the west side of the building. The added gravel will be part of the
storage area and will have 12’ setback from the west property line, where code requires a 20’ side
yard setback. According to the applicant, the outdoor storage area will include vertical storage
racking and the additional gravel area will be utilized for storage of large frames. The applicant
has an open violation for open outdoor storage of various items on the site. The proposed outdoor
storage areas are intended to provide a secure enclosed area to store these items, which will
remedy the violation.
Staff is supportive of a BSM for the reduced setback of the storage area along the west property
line as it is needed to meet outdoor storage needs of the applicant. Also, the storage area is
abutting a heavy industrial use (EVCO Plastics) to the east and should not have an adverse impact
on the surrounding area.
As proposed, the storage area will be enclosed by 8’ tall solid fencing along the south and east
property lines and existing 8’ tall chain link fencing along the north and west property lines. Solid
fencing is not required along the west property line as it is abutting an industrial property to the
west. The applicant is requesting a BSM to allow the outdoor storage without solid fencing along
the north property line, where code requires outdoor storage areas to be completely screened from
non-industrialized areas with minimum 8’ tall solid fencing or structures.
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According to the applicant, the existing 8’ chain link fencing along the north property line is
surrounded by natural vegetation, which forms a natural privacy screen. Removing the natural
vegetation to install a new solid fence would negatively affect environmentally sensitive areas,
such as the existing pond. The applicant has noted that they will be installing 10 evergreen trees
along the north property line to provide additional screening.
Staff is supportive of the BSM to waive the solid screening requirement along the north
property line as the combination of existing chain link fencing, existing natural vegetation, and
new evergreen trees will serve to sufficiently screen the storage area. Also, the abutting property
to the north of the storage area is being used as a rear storage area for the FVTC/Fabtech Training
Center, which will not be negatively impacted by visibility of the Generac outdoor storage.
The submittal also includes plans for a 154 stall parking lot on the north side of the site, accessed
from Oregon Street. This parking area had previously been approved in October, 2021 per Site
Plan Review, but a building permit has not been obtained and the parking lot was never
constructed. Staff does not have concerns with the parking lot addition as no changes are being
proposed from the original approval. The additional parking and storage areas will result in a
total impervious surface of 56.3% for the site, which is under the maximum of 70%. Staff
recommends approval with the findings and conditions as listed in the staff report.
Mr. Perry opened up technical questions to staff.
Mr. Kiefer asked if the area would be cleaned up.
Mr. Lyons said that is exactly what they are going to do with this proposal.
Mr. Mitchell asked if they had an 8 foot fence and if there is any landscaping required for the
fencing.
Mr. Lyons said there is some screening but there is some potential for more.
Mr. Perry asked for any public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any
statements.
Kevin Krueger, 3815 Oregon St, said the plan is to clean up the area and the material would be
stored within the fence line.
Mr. Perry closed public comments.
There were no closing statements from the applicant.
Motion by Kiefer to adopt the findings and recommendation as stated in the staff report.
Seconded by Mitchell.
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Mr. Perry asked if there was any discussion on the motion.
Motion carried 7-0.
VI. PUBLIC HEARING: PONTOONIN HOUSE ANNEXATION FROM THE TOWN OF
OSHKOSH, 2538 SHOREWOOD DRIVE AND PART OF 2534 SHOREWOOD DRIVE
Site Inspections Report: Ms. Davey reported visiting the site.
Staff report accepted as part of the record.
The petitioners are requesting direct annexation (majority land in area and real property in
assessed value) of approximately 0.383 acres of land currently located on Shorewood Drive in the
Town of Oshkosh.
This item was first reviewed by Plan Commission on August 16, 2022. Proper notification was not sent to
the Town Clerk and Oshkosh Area School District so this request will be presented once again in accordance
with state statute.
Mr. Nau presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the land use
and zoning classifications in this area. James and Michelle Work recently purchased Lot 8 with the
intent to construct a single family dwelling. It is their wish to have the new house connected to
city sanitary sewer and water which prompted this request. The Comprehensive Plan designates
this area as appropriate for light density residential use and the proposed zoning permits the
existing single family use for the property by-right.
Loyal & Kelly Straveler’s property is east of their house which is currently in the City. The land is
undeveloped and is used for yard space with their house property.
The petitioners request the property be annexed with a Single Family Residential-5 with Lakefront
Residential Overlay (SR-5-LRO) District zoning classification to match the adjacent SR-5-LRO City
zone district to the south and is comparable to the current Town’s Suburban Residential District
(Subdivided) (R-2) zoning. The proposed zoning is also consistent with the Comprehensive Plan
2040’s Light Density Residential recommendation.
The Department of Public Works has reviewed the request and reported that City sanitary sewer
and water main were constructed in front of the property in 1975. Sanitary sewer and water
laterals have been stubbed to the property line so the street will not need to be excavated for
connections. The Oshkosh Fire and Police Departments have reviewed the annexation request and
do not have any concerns with providing services to this property. Staff recommends approval
with the findings and conditions as listed in the staff report.
Mr. Perry opened up technical questions to staff.
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Mr. Perry asked for any public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any
statements.
There were no other public comments on this item.
Mr. Perry closed public comments and asked if the applicant wanted to make any closing
statements.
There were no closing statements from the applicant.
Motion by Propp to adopt the findings and recommendation as stated in the staff report.
Seconded by Kiefer.
Mr. Perry asked if there was any discussion on the motion.
Motion carried 7-0.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at approximately 5:10 pm. (Kiefer/Davey)
Respectfully Submitted,
Mark Lyons
Planning Services Manager