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November 3, 2020
PRESENT: Margy Davey, Michael Ford, John Kiefer, Justin Mitchell, Thomas Perry, Jay Stengel,
Mamadou Coulibaly, Kathleen Propp, Phillip Marshall
EXCUSED: John Hinz, Derek Groth
STAFF: Mark Lyons, Planning Services Manager; Brian Slusarek, Planner; Steven Wiley,
Associate Planner; Allen Davis, Community Development Director; Justin Gierach,
Engineering Division Manger
Chairperson Propp called the meeting to order at 4:00 pm. Roll call was taken and a quorum
declared present.
The minutes of October 21, 2020 were approved as presented. (Davey/Kiefer)
I. PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMEMT FOR AN
INSTITUTIONAL RESIDENTIAL USE AT 851 COUNTY ROAD Y
Site Inspections Report: No commissioners reported visiting the site.
Staff report accepted as part of the record.
The applicant is requesting a Conditional Use Permit amendment for an institutional residential
use with a second occupant at 851 County Road Y.
Mr. Slusarek presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the land
use and zoning classifications in this area. In December 2018, a conditional use permit was
approved to establish an institutional residential facility for a County resident convicted of a
sexual offense (Wis. Stat. 980) and deemed ready for release. The CUP approval included a
condition that the residential structure is limited to a maximum density of one occupant and
maximum of two bedrooms. The applicant is now requesting a CUP amendment to allow a second
resident, also convicted of a sexual offense (Wis. Stat. 980) and deemed ready for release. The
existing home has two bedrooms and no construction or alterations to the property are anticipated.
The applicant notes that due to the particular resident intended to be housed at the site, state law
imposes some limits on what can be located within a certain proximity of the subject parcel. In
particular, schools, child care facilities, public parks, places of worship or youth centers cannot be
located within 1,500 feet of the parcel. As the applicant owns the surrounding land beyond 1,500
feet from the parcel, the applicant can reasonably guarantee that land within that proximity will
not be used for these purposes. No plans have been submitted for the site or facility as the only
change to the site will be an added resident at the existing manufactured home. He said that staff is
in support of the CUP amendment for the institutional residential use as the proposed use has
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already been established on the site, which is an appropriate location based on the surrounding
County government land uses.
Ms. Propp opened technical questions to staff.
Mr. Perry asked if the applicant is the provider or the county.
Mr. Lyons replied that the applicant is the county.
Ms. Propp opened up the public hearing and asked if the applicant wanted to make any
statements.
Ms. Mary Anne Mueller thanked the commission for their time and consideration. She said that the
county was here a couple of years ago due to the state statute and legislature basically putting the
onus on the county to find housing for 980 sex offenders. There are a number of requirements that
need to be met and they thought that this location, which is actually on county -owned land, was
the best location given that it was in the shadow of the Sherriff's Office and it was not near
residential housing. As staff indicated, there are two bedrooms there and they are only asking to
use the other bedroom because there is one resident in the manufactured home currently. They
believe the people who are in that home are strictly monitored, so there are not comings and
goings. She explained that 980s are deemed serious sex offenders, so they are not allowed to leave
the premises during the first year without a parole officer. They are basically trying to react to
what the state has done with their legislation. She said they do not believe there is going to be any
impact and they would also be able to satisfy the law.
There were no public comments on this item.
Mr. Perry stated that he had concerns about this two years ago and he has concerns about this
now. His main concern is with the contractor who is contracting with the county. Due to the
pandemic, organizations that run these types of operations have a very challenging time finding
sufficient staffing for these facilities. Mr. Perry asked Ms. Mueller if there were significant
safeguards in place like direct wiring to the Sherriff's Office or a panic button, adding that leaving
a single staff person on site because staff called in sick is a recipe for a disaster.
Ms. Mueller replied that this mobile home is owned by the county. They do not have anyone
managing it and there is no staffing. The occupants have electronic monitoring through the
Department of Human Services and the Sherriff passes by throughout the day. There have been no
issues in regards to the existing occupant. The county owns the facility and they run it, but the
state manages the electronic monitoring and the state has direct links into all of the neighboring
institutions that would be providing coverage for this. She said that more telling is the fact that
they have had no issues with the occupant currently there.
Mr. Perry thanked Ms. Mueller for the information, adding that when the commission was
approached two years ago, the county clearly said that they would be contracting with a provider
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to do the monitoring and potential staffing. He said that the information Ms. Mueller provided is a
little different from what was provided previously.
Ms. Propp closed the public hearing and asked if the applicant wanted to make any closing
statements.
There were no closing statements from the applicant.
Motion by Ford to adopt the findings and recommendation as stated in the staff report.
Condition:
The residence is limited to maximum of two (2) occupants.
Seconded by Davey.
Ms. Propp asked if there was any discussion on the motion.
There was no discussion on the motion.
Motion carried 9-0.
II. PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESIDENTIAL GROUP
DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT THE 2600 BLOCK OF WITZEL AVENUE (THE WIT
DEVELOPMENT)
Site Inspections Report: Ms. Davey and Mr. Mitchell reported visiting the site.
Staff report accepted as part of the record.
The applicant requests approval of a Conditional Use Permit for a Group Development consisting
of twelve two-family structures.
Mr. Wiley presented the item and reviewed the site and surrounding area as well as the land use
and zoning classifications in this area. The petitioner seeks to develop the site with twelve two-
story multi -family buildings each including twelve living units, for a total of 144 two -bedroom
units. The site will also include four detached garage buildings and surface parking. The center of
the site will include a large retention pond, clubhouse, and green space. The orientation of the
multi -family buildings around the perimeter of the site is intended to allow for efficient
wayfinding and site circulation. The site would include three refuse enclosures each with three 8-
yard dumpsters for tenant use. The conditional use permit process allows such group
developments of three or more principal buildings on a subject parcel. He said that staff would
recommend approval as long as the petitioner is willing to meet the conditions listed previously.
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Mr. Lyons stated that they need to meet MR-12 based zoning requirements as this is not a planned
development. The CUP today is specifically related to the group development, meaning more than
three buildings on a single parcel, and whether it makes sense to allow this as a group
development with three or more structures.
Ms. Propp opened technical questions to staff.
There were no technical questions on this item.
Ms. Propp opened up the public hearing and asked if the applicant wanted to make any
statements.
Mr. Steven Moorehead thanked the commission for their support and stated that he is here to
answer any questions they have.
Mr. Perry stated that he is hoping that, as another large development, the developer takes
accessibility needs into consideration and designs a few of the units to address those needs.
Mr. Moorehead replied that they have taken accessibility into consideration and they will be
designing per ADA requirements.
Mr. Mitchell thanked Mr. Moorhead for his time and for his willingness to answer some questions
prior to the meeting. He understands the clarification Mr. Lyons provided about what we are
specifically voting on, but part of this role involves reviewing the City's process in addition to the
proposed project. The proposed project looks great and he is really excited for that particular plot
to be developed because the City has identified higher -quality housing as a gap as well. The
questions he has are to look at the role and function of the City in getting a better idea of how a
project goes about either including or not including accessibility features. He said that Mr.
Moorhead indicated prior to the meeting that 33% of the building is on first floor. Mr. Mitchell
asked if that is a no -step entry or if there are step entries for all of the units.
Mr. Moorehead replied that it is no -step entry.
Mr. Mitchell asked if the first floor units are zero step entry.
Mr. Moorhead replied affirmatively.
Mr. Mitchell asked if there were other intentional features that were put in to accommodate the
needs of individuals that may have disabilities, not necessarily individuals who use wheelchairs,
but features for individuals with visual and hearing impairments, for example.
Mr. Moorhead replied that at this time it is all by code. They will take those things into account
once they begin the process of building the first building. They are doing this in stages and all he
can say is that they are doing it by code. He said they want to make the project accessible as best as
they can.
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Mr. Mitchell asked if city staff worked with them beyond providing what code requires and
specifically about the incorporation of accessibility features into the project.
Mr. Moorhead replied that they talked to staff specifically around ADA requirements. Staff has
been very open and worked with us extremely well at answering our questions, but the answer to
Mr. Mitchell's question is no.
Mr. Mitchell asked if they were provided with specific information encouraging them to
incorporate accessibility features, provided with best practice ideas on how to make units more
accessible, any financial incentive packages, or anything related to encouraging them to
incorporate accessibility features.
Mr. Moorhead replied that it really falls to the architectural group that has put in their judgment
on design features like extra wide hallways, wider than standard doors, and larger bathrooms.
They put our best means and methods forward every time and they do not look to the City for that
type of recommendation. He said that in their mind, that is not the City's job.
Mr. Lyons stated that after the last meeting, staff did reach out to them to ask if they would like to
have any additional conversations about accessibility options and City programs.
Mr. Mitchell thanked the applicant.
James Rabe, 176 Barton Road, stated that he is concerned about the water back up when they're
digging the drainage from all the water that comes down Barton Rd. He said that water gets pretty
high running through here and he wants to make sure that it doesn't back up on his property.
Mr. Lyons replied that it will have to meet full city drainage requirements. Similar to any other
commercial development, they must retain and hold all water on their own site. They cannot drain
the development property onto a neighbor. They have to collect and convey all their own water.
He said they will have to have all final drainage plans approved by the city prior to construction
taking place.
Mr. Rabe replied that there is a lot of water that comes through during heavier rains that is
supposed to go through that field, but now it will probably be backed up.
Ms. Propp asked if the property must retain its own water during construction as well.
Mr. Lyons said he does not want to speak for the exact requirements of the ordinance, but they
have to have drainage measures in place during construction for run off and things like that.
Mr. Gierach stated that they need to maintain the water on their site during construction and if
there is water that flows through that, they need to find a way to deal with that. He does not have
construction plans in front of him and nothing has been approved at this point. Post -construction
they are required to maintain drainage whether it is through the site or on the site and then
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anything on -site is required to drain to the right of way, waters of the state, or any obtained
easements.
Mr. Rabe stated that the last time it rained, they put a silk fence up and he had to cut a hole in the
silk fence to get the water to drain through from Barton Road because it was backing up.
Mr. Moorhead replied that they would take a closer look at how the water drains through Barton
Road to ensure they are able to safely convey the water through the subject site. He told the
applicant they would keep a very close eye on it.
Mr. Rabe replied that he hoped so and asked who he should contact if there is a problem.
Mr. Moorhead replied that he should contact him and provided his phone number for Mr. Rabe.
Ms. Propp thanked Mr. Rabe for his comment.
Mr. Lyons stated that if there are issues after construction starts, Mr. Rabe can contact both
Planning and Public Works. He said that nothing can really take place up there until the plans are
reviewed and approved by Public Works.
Mr. Mitchell asked if this was a concern of water flowing from someone else's property from
around Barton Rd on to the project that is being proposed and not the other way around.
Mr. Gierach replied that is how he understands it. The applicant is still required to maintain
drainage that is coming through the site. They cannot block it off to flood out neighboring
properties and they cannot drain from their subject site on neighboring properties. If there truly is
water flowing through the site, they will have to maintain that as well. He said that they will look
at that with them and how it affects their site.
Ms. Propp closed the public hearing and asked if the applicant wanted to make any closing
statements.
Mr. Moorhead thanked the commission for their time.
Motion by Mitchell to adopt the findings and recommendation as stated in the staff report.
Conditions:
Petitioner to submit code compliant fencing details and install a code compliant 6' tall solid
(at least 90% opaque) fence along the west property line.
Petitioner shall submit a revised landscaping plan and schedule with code -compliant species
and code -compliant landscaping point totals for Department of Community Development
review as part of the Site Plan Review Process.
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3. Petitioner shall submit a revised, code -compliant photometric plan, light fixture mounting
information, and light fixture details to staff for Department of Community Development
review as part of the Site Plan Review Process.
4. Petitioner to submit detached garage elevations and dumpster enclosure elevations and
details to staff for Department of Community Development review as part of the Site Plan
Review Process.
Seconded by Kiefer.
Ms. Propp asked if there was any discussion on the motion.
Mr. Mitchell stated that he knows there are a number of apartments directly by this and there may
already be a good integration of affordable housing, but he just wants to be clear when we talk
about incorporating affordable housing so we don't have islands of well-to-do and islands of not
so well-to-do. We might be talking about somebody who works for the school district as the
receptionist or working one-on-one with kids making $25,000 a year as a single parent. That person
may benefit equally well from such a luxury development or the amenities. There are different
strategies that can be incorporated. It may not be the best fit for this project, but he did want to
note that he is excited to see if there are actual plans in place with the housing study to make sure
we do not have a segregation of wealth without the incorporation of affordable housing for
working class, lesser well-off folks.
Motion carried 9-0.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at approximately 4:44 pm.
(Stengel/Marshall)
Respectfully Submitted,
Mark Lyons
Planning Services Manager
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