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Minutes
August 3rd, 2020
PRESENT: Margy Davey, Michelle Bogden Muetzel, Vic Oliver, Eric DeGroot, Bradley
Spanbauer, Ken Osmond, Bob Poeschl
EXCUSED: Pat Dwyer Hallquist
ABSENT: None
STAFF AND OTHERS: Brandon Nielsen, Steven Wiley, Jake Timm (Oshkosh Media), Jim
Collins (Transportation)
I. Call to Order
Chair Margy Davey called the meeting to order at 6:00 pm and a quorum was declared present.
II. Election of Vice Chairperson and Chairperson
Chair Davey nominated Michelle Bogden Muetzel as Vice Chairperson and Vic Oliver seconded
the nomination. Ms. Bogden Muetzel accepted the nomination and a vote was taken. Vote
Passed 6-0. Declaration of Michelle Bogden Muetzel as Vice Chair
Ms. Oliver nominated Margy Davey as Chairperson and Ms. Bogden Muetzel seconded the
nomination. Chair Davey accepted the nomination and a vote was taken. Vote passed 6-0.
Declaration of Margy Davey as Chair.
Bob Poeschl requested a point of order, asking for introductions from the board. All board
members did a quick introduction of themselves for Mr. Poeschl.
III. Approval of Minutes, March 2nd, 2020
Chair Davey asked if anyone on the board would like to make a motion to accept the minutes as
written and Eric DeGroot motioned to accept. Vic Oliver seconded the motioned. Chair Davey
requested a change to article VII. from "Mr." to "Ms." in the first sentence. The board approved
the March 2nd minutes 3-0 (DeGroot/Oliver).
IV. Presentation from Transit Dept. on Hybrid Bus Procurement - Jim Collins
Jim Collins (Mr. C) from the transit department introduced himself and two of his staff
members. Mr. Collins explained how right now the city has a special opportunity to purchase
hybrid buses and the differences in cost between a clean diesel bus and a hybrid bus, noting that
a clean diesel bus costs about $450,000 and a hybrid bus about $750,000. This year the city
received a significant amount of money from the Cares Act and the transportation department
would like to purchase two hybrid busses with some of that money. The procurement process
takes little more than a year to order and receive the buses, meaning if a bus was ordered at the
end of this year it would not arrive until 2022. These buses would replace 2010 hybrid busses.
Mr. C explained how the Cares Act pays 100% of the hybrid busses so there is no upfront city
investment. Mr. C asked that the board support the transportation department's decision in
pursuing the purchase of these buses with the Cares Act funding. He said that putting together
a procurement can take 6 to S months so the city will be pigging backing off of the state contract
because it is already established. Mr. C explained that electric buses cost about one million
dollars and the infrastructure needed to run them makes the cost even higher, which the city
does not currently have in place support, nor the funds needed to install that infrastructure.
Additionally, Mr. C added that he feels the testing on these buses has not been thoroughly
tested in northern, cold weathered climates. He said the transportation department would like
to update the downtown transit center, which will maybe be a good opportunity to install the
needed electrical infrastructure for EV buses. In 2025 Mr. C hopes to have a better idea of how
the electric buses operate in northern climates.
Ms. Oliver asked about the lifecycle of the buses and Mr. Collins explained that because the
buses are purchased with federal funds they have to be used for at least 12 years.
Mr. Osmond asked about the Eau Claire examples that were provided in the presentation and
Mr. Collins explained how their landscape is slightly different but they run about the same as
Oshkosh so the numbers provided are close.
Chair Davey asked Mr. Collins if he would prefer the board take a vote on support of this
procurement. Mr. Collins asked the board to please take a vote in support of the procurement.
Chair Davey asked about the storage of these busses and if that area could be upgraded to
support an electric bus in terms of charging. Mr. Collins and Go Transit staff explained that the
electricity needed to charge an electric bus would have to be determined by the city electricians,
and how they have been in communication with them about this possibility in the future, if
deemed achievable.
Chair Davey explained how the SAB had been talking with a solar energy company about their
grant program which is used to add solar to city owned buildings. She added that maybe this
type of grant would be a good thing for SAB, and the transportation department, to collaborate
on because it could help power electric buses.
Ms. Oliver motioned to support in the procurement of hybrid buses, Second by Mr. Poeschl. The
board approved the motion 6-0 (Oliver/Poeschl).
V. Community Composting with UW Oshkosh — Informational
Michelle Bogden-Muetzel presented information on UW Oshkosh's Biodigester and how the
City of Oshkosh and UWO can work towards a partnership to bring the communities organic
waste to the digester. She explained that the university has been looking at grants to help fund a
program like this.
Brad Spanbauer explained that the USDA's Community Compost and Food Waste Reduction
grant was the grant that the UWO was mostly considering to pursue. He explained that the
grant requires a city or county partnership and how they are the main recipient of the grant.
Chair Davey asked if Mr. Spanbauer or Ms. Bogden-Muetzel would be able to tell the SAB what
is needed from the board and Mr. Spanbauer explained that this would require involvement
with the waste management department, or whomever plans for their operations, so the proper
meeting can be held to prepare for the grant application.
Ken Osmond asked if the cooperation between the city and university is to set up the city to be a
central collection point for multiple end users within the community and then to move that
organic material to the digester. Mr. Spanbauer explained that the USDA grant encourages
community composting from both residential and commercial businesses with the goal being to
reduce food waste going to the landfill. Mr. Osmond explained his personal experiences with
composting for his commercial business, how a local option would be a better option, and to his
knowledge roughly ten local business could utilize something like this. Mr. Spanbauer stated
that UWO is currently working on a strategy so they can partner directly with local business to
do just as Mr. Osmond expressed.
Ms. Bogden-Muetzel explained that this process will require a fair amount of piecemealing
because there are so many steps needed to take place in order for this all to operate correctly.
Chair Davey recommended no further action on this item but to leave it on the agenda for the
next meeting for further discussion.
VI. Rain Barrels — Informational
Chair Davey explained a SAB partnership with the Oshkosh Housing Authority to provide six
rain barrels for local areas that could benefit, however the exact locations have not all been
determined at this time. She added that education about rain barrels, such as installation, will be
part of the next steps in this partnership. Chair Davey added that OHA employee, Justin
Mitchell, said that he would like to see a community day as part of this process too, where
interested people could come and paint the rain barrels.
Vic Oliver updated the Board about an educational event on rain barrels that she is going to be a
part of. She explained that a local church has asked her to do a virtual rain barrel workshop to
demonstrate the benefits of rain barrels, where supplies can be procured, and how to build one.
Ms. Oliver added that this event may be something that is shared on social media.
VII. Duck Ordinance — Discussion
Chair Davey provided the background on this topic, which included where this stemmed from,
and why it was being brought before the SAB. Chair Davey explained some differences between
chicken and ducks, and why those differences matter. Oshkosh currently has a chicken
ordinance but does not have a duck ordinance and within the animal ordinances it specifically
states that housing waterfowl on a property is not permitted within city limits. She added that
the ducks to be considered in a duck ordinance are called heavy bodied ducks, meaning they
cannot fly. Chair Davey said she would like to see this item be worked on more during the
winter months and Ken Osmond would like to know more about what the county DNR has in
place, if anything, and what they would consider. Bob Poeschl asked if we would be amending
the existing chicken ordinance to include ducks or if we would be creating a new, separate, duck
ordinance. Chair Davey believes this would likely need to be its own ordinance.
VIII. Permanent Community Gardens - Discussion
Chair Davey explained that the garden subject has been discussed by the SAB many times in the
past and that SAB has supported garden creation, however most of those gardens were not
permanent. She identified some of the key issues with permanent gardens, such as, the lot not
being taken care of once interest in the garden has dissolved. Chair Davey stated that many
requests for permanent gardens within city limits have come up and is aware that the RDA has
also discussed this topic.
Bob Poeschl shared his personal successes with community gardens on some of the properties
he manages and how they are now self-sufficient, not requiring his guidance at all anymore. He
added that he is willing to work on this topic going forward and the board members were
supportive of that request.
Ken Osmond asked if there has been any criteria established for community gardens. Chair
Davey stated that there are some guidelines within the Sustainability Plan, but it is not laid out
very specifically and asked if anyone had anything more to add. Eric DeGroot would like to see
population density and walkability in comparison to vacant lots that could be potentially used
as gardens. Bob Poeschl described his experience with a garden creation in Stevens Park. This
occurred as a collaboration between Stevens Park Neighborhood Association and the Parks
Department.
IX. Electric Vehicle Project - Update
Eric DeGroot stated that Board member Pat Dwyer Hallquist did find some grants but they are
currently not available and would re -open later this year. Mr. DeGroot explained that he has
found a few vehicles within the fire and water department that could be switched over to
electric but most of the city's fleets are large scale. Chair Davey said at this time, because there is
only one vehicle here and one vehicle there that could be switched to EV, the board does not
have any new recommendations at this time.
Michelle Bogden-Muetzel asked what the downside is to using a grant to purchase just one, for
example, firetruck and the infrastructure needed to operate it. Mr. DeGroot explained that this
first step is the hardest and that his initial proposal was for the city to adopt some sort of
legislation that, when available, departments should purchase EV's instead of gas or diesel
vehicles. Ms. Bogden-Muetzel added that she feels it would make sense for the city to invest into
infrastructure first and then as time continues, begin the changeover to EV's because this
approach could potentially be more financially feasible rather than doing it all at once.
Brandon Nielsen explained that some work has already taken place to determine where in a
public lot EV charging stations could be installed based on the electrical grid below ground.
X. Menominee Shoreland Restoration - Update
Michelle Bogden-Muetzel explained that because of the pandemic it has been difficult to
organize volunteer days so that activity involvement has been lower than past years. Ms.
Bogden-Muetzel said that this year has definitely been smaller scale but she has still been able to
get out to both the Millers Bay site and pump house site to check on things. She explained that
Lakeshore Trail is overgrown a bit but they are working on getting it cleaned up. Ms. Bogden-
Muetzel will be giving a virtual talk about the Shoreland sites on Sunday August 16, 2020 at 1:00
PM with the First Congregational Church. The board encouraged that the virtual talk be shared
on social media if possible.
XI. Social Media - Discussion/Action
Currently the staff liaison for city boards is required to manage social media pages. Vic Oliver
explained how this operation of maintaining and posting to the SAB's Facebook page is not
ideal and does not allow the page to function how social media is meant to function. Ms. Oliver
explained that since she has not been allowed to manage the FB page the interactions on the
posts have decreased significantly, and therefore proposed to have a conversation about getting
access back so it can be managed more effectively. Ms. Oliver shared some examples of what she
feels are good FB posts going forward. Brandon Nielsen and Vic Oliver agreed to set up a time
to meet and discuss this further.
Ken Osmond questioned if Facebook is the only social media channel the SAB is currently on
and Ms. Oliver explained yes, and why. Mr. Osmond explained that he would like to see the
SAB on Instagram, as that is where the majority of younger people go for social media, and Ms.
Oliver explained that getting an Instagram page started was one of her goals but if she cannot
administer it, it becomes difficult for it to be successful.
Chair Davey seconded Ms. Oliver's remarks, stating that when Ms. Oliver had control of the FB
page it was more successful and there was a lot more engagement. She added that it is probably
time that the city board(s) ask the city to reconsider the rule that does not allow administrative
rights of social media pages by residents who serve on the boards, and only to city staff.
XII. Review Goals Sheet
Chair Davey went through the list of goals and checked in with each person who was listed as
the responsible individual to see if they are still working on these items. Brad Spanbauer
explained a student group that is involved with a fossil fuel divestment campaign and Chair
Davey asked if Bob Poeschl would be interested being a part of the fossil fuel divestment goal,
he agreed. Ken Osmond agreed to be a part of the permeable paver and plastic pledge goals.
XIII. Agenda Items for Future Meeting
Brandon Nielsen and Chair Davey stated that the next meeting in October would include
Community Composting, Duck Ordinance, Menominee Shoreland Project, and Social Media.
XIV. Next Meeting, Monday October 51h - City Hall Room 404
Chair Davey reminded the board of the next meeting.
The board voted 7-0 to adjourn at 7:30 pm (Oliver/Bogden-Muetzel).
Recorded by:
Brandon Nielsen, Assistant Planner