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STORM WATER UTILITY COMMITTEE Minutes
September 21, 2017
Present: Kyle Clark, Paul Janty, Maureen Muldoon, and Sean Butler
Absent: John Kiefer, Maureen Muldoon (excused at 8:10), Kyle Clark (excused at
9:48)
Also Present: John Ferris, Civil Engineering Supervisor - Storm Water Utility; Steve Gohde,
Assistant Director of Public Works; Jon Cameron, Ehlers; Jim Bachhuber,
Brown and Caldwell
I.Call to Order.
A. Mr. Butler called the meeting to order at 7:36 am.
II. Approval of August 17, 2017 Meeting Minutes.
A. Mr. Clark moved to approve the August 17, 2017 minutes with corrections as noted.
Seconded by Mr. Janty. Approved (4-0).
III. Program Updates.
Move to revise order of agenda to present item V.
Move to revise order of agenda present item IV.
A. Audit of Municipal Code
1. City will review current stormwater ordinances to assess if barriers exist to the use of
green infrastructure approaches to achieving stormwater management objectives. This
work will be done through a program run by the Sea Grant Institute, UW-Green Bay.
B. Rotary / School District Inlet Marker Project
1. Rotary Club and Mr. Ferris met with high school students (Oshkosh North) to present
City stormwater management program and involvement of students.
2. Students will develop various public information programs beyond the inlet markings.
Will likely reach an estimated 3,000 5,000 people with stormwater management
messages.
C. Mini-Storm Sewer Program:
1. Mr. Ferris reported that all 2017 projects should be completed or near completion.
D. Sawyer Creek Flood Remapping:
1. Mr. Ferris reported that spot checks will be made for first floor elevations to buildings
that were recently identified to be within the floodplain. Report will be edited with new
information.
2.
Mr. Clark responded that insurance looks at basement flooding differently than flooding
at or above first floor.
IV. Review of 2018 Operating and Capital Budgets, by Ehlers.
A. Mr. Ferris introduced Jon Cameron, Ehlers to present material.
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B. Mr. Cameron discussed the process for analyzing cash flow and debt for
stormwater program (see attached handout)
1. The purpose of the analysis was to predict the potential debt service over the next 10
years and necessary user rates to support debt service.
2. Net revenue (after existing operations expenses) must be 1.2 times the debt service. The
higher the ratio the better the rvice. User rate adjustments
to achieve the desired coverage ratio must be in place before additional debt service is
taken.
3. Mr. Cameron presented projected required user rate increases through 2027 to meet
projected debt service and maintain the coverage ratio.
4. Based on budget projections and rate adjustments, the coverage ratio stayed above 1.2
through 2027. At 2026 and 2027 the ratio approached 1.2. To maintain levels at 1.5, the
user rates would need to be increased.
C. Mr. Janty asked Mr. Ferris if this analysis accounted for the latest budget figures provided to
the committee in recent meetings. Mr. Ferris replied that the latest budget figures were
D. Mr. Butler asked if the analysis could show what user rates are necessary to maintain the
coverage ratio greater than 1.2. Mr. Cameron replied that this analysis could be done. Mr.
Butler requested an analysis to show what user rates would need to be to maintain the
coverage ratio at 1.35 and at 1.50.
E. Mr. Butler requested the analysis to show the percent of the GO debt that is paid by the SWU
over the analysis period.
V. Discussion of Modeling Approaches MS4 vs TMDL, by B&C.
A. Mr. Ferris requested Mr. Bachhuber to present a summary of the past stormwater pollution
modeling approaches for regulatory compliance and how the Upper Fox / Wolf River Basin
TMDL will impact modeling.
B. Mr. Bachhuber presented an overview of the past stormwater pollution modeling for permit
compliance and how the pending TMDL affects future modeling needs. The presentation
handout is attached for reference.
VI. Review Discussion of Future Meeting of Agenda Items.
A. Meeting adjourned, topic not discussed.
VII. Adjournment.
Meeting ended for lack of a quorum at 8:50 am.
Respectfully Submitted
John Ferris, PE, PH
Civil Engineer Supervisor Storm Water Utility
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